Fool's Paradise?

I guess Wellington is somewhat of an El Dorado to the folks down south. Kenny makes it sound like everything there is sunshine and rainbows. But what if Nick was right? It could be way too good to be true. Remember that Kenny said it snowed all the time, slowing the walkers down.

Well I bet there's a place called Wellington in the north, but what if it's nothing? What if it's a ghost town? What if it's this location right here:

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  • Assuming the story follows a fairly straight forward plot (which it could, or could very easily not) then that probably is wellington in the back. We can't really tell from this distance what it's like on the inside, but chances are it won't be as picture perfect as it is painted. It would be fitting for twd then, would it?

  • That's what I'm thinking, and remember what Carver said about a lot of people have been going up North lately looking for Shangri-La. (Wellington)
    I'm thinking it's going to be a big pipe dream. Like the boat in S1.

  • I guess Wellington is somewhat of an El Dorado to the folks down south. Kenny makes it sound like everything there is sunshine and rainbows. But what if Nick was right? It could be way too good to be true. Remember that Kenny said it snowed all the time, slowing the walkers down.

    Maybe, but we can't say for sure yet. It might turn out to be another settlement similar to Carver's.

    Well I bet there's a place called Wellington in the north, but what if it's nothing? What if it's a ghost town? What if it's this location right here:

    If that was Wellington, I think it would at least have some people in it. Remember when Matthew said a lot of people were headed north? Kenny and Christa even planned to go there, which kinda rules out the possibility of it being a ghost town.

  • Guarantee you it will be just like Atlanta

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    Sunshine and Rainbows you say? Mmmhhh kinda seems like a connection with this tweet on ep 4 don't you think? https://mobile.twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/440235501849550848

  • I think it might be salvation for awhile, but the season will end with the community falling because of an attack from walkers or another group, leaving the group scattered or left to pick up the pieces.
    Sounds a lot like Season 4's midseason finale, but it might happen.

  • Hahah hopefully everything turns out all right for Clem!!!

  • With everyone headed up there More people = more problems/disputes = less food = more possible walkers. Also Winter is always temporary.

  • Reminds me of Terminus from the TV show except without the posted map and signs.

  • How does the word of a camp all the way up north in Michigan get all the way down south to Georgia,North Carolina,Virginia, etc.? It's all going to be a trap.

  • This is just like the boat scenario. If your Lee ever doubted Kenny's boat hopes, he'd call you out and take offence, which makes me doubt Wellington even more. I don't think it will be as simple as going to a safe haven. My guess is that Wellington is abandoned and that there are smaller communities split up and spread out.

  • It won't be some impenetrable community, but I think it's more realistic than our original boat plan.

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    Some people have been saying this is Kenny's new "boat". We all know how well that turned out.

    Well, they're going to Wellington anyways it seems, and if they get there after all that effort and it turns out to be a fluke after all, well, there's No Going Back.

  • Agreed, this plan is a lot better with the boat plan. We all know for sure that it has people, lots of land, and snow to slow the walkers down. But as for the boat, there was no certainty about it.

    Mikejames posted: »

    It won't be some impenetrable community, but I think it's more realistic than our original boat plan.

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  • How so?

    Guarantee you it will be just like Atlanta

  • So many people going to the one place... All roads in and out of wellington will be infested with bandits, I guarantee it.

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    I dunno, the place is cold, I don't think there'd be any bandits camping outside when they can just warm up inside. Besides the slide shows it could be a freezing deathtrap outside.

    Kilenima posted: »

    So many people going to the one place... All roads in and out of wellington will be infested with bandits, I guarantee it.

  • ... I am not sure about American geography but I'm sure that much like Australia there are houses and buildings along the roads into urban centres. We don't all live in one city with nothing but barren wasteland surrounding it.

    Gengar posted: »

    I dunno, the place is cold, I don't think there'd be any bandits camping outside when they can just warm up inside. Besides the slide shows it could be a freezing deathtrap outside.

  • As evident in the slide (hopefully) the horizon shows nothing but snow, dead trees, and scraps. There could be camps probably...but it is highly unlikely.

    Kilenima posted: »

    ... I am not sure about American geography but I'm sure that much like Australia there are houses and buildings along the roads into urban centres. We don't all live in one city with nothing but barren wasteland surrounding it.

  • Well ignoring the fact their could be some sort of cabin or something off to the side, or could be something on the other side of the hill I still stand behind my opinion. The bandit's may have a small camp were they take in turns to stand guard in front of major urban centre's. I know it's the smart thing to do, control the roads in and you practically control the town.

    Gengar posted: »

    As evident in the slide (hopefully) the horizon shows nothing but snow, dead trees, and scraps. There could be camps probably...but it is highly unlikely.

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    Sunshine and Rainbows. Somehow i found that highly ironic.

    iHeartTWD posted: »

    Sunshine and Rainbows you say? Mmmhhh kinda seems like a connection with this tweet on ep 4 don't you think? https://mobile.twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/440235501849550848

  • Man...its possible or maybe its Wellington that's under the bandit's control? That would be one evil plot twist, from a seemingly last frontier and paradise for the survivors, it becomes the total opposite.

    Kilenima posted: »

    Well ignoring the fact their could be some sort of cabin or something off to the side, or could be something on the other side of the hill I

  • It's the bandit's that spread the word about Wellington's bounty, then they catch weary and desperate survivors unawares.... Makes sense.

    Gengar posted: »

    Man...its possible or maybe its Wellington that's under the bandit's control? That would be one evil plot twist, from a seemingly last frontier and paradise for the survivors, it becomes the total opposite.

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    Makes sense indeed. I just hope it never comes to that point. I don't want Clem to be a prisoner for the 4th time.

    Kilenima posted: »

    It's the bandit's that spread the word about Wellington's bounty, then they catch weary and desperate survivors unawares.... Makes sense.

  • Hmmm, to be honest with bandit's I can see it being more likely they would try to kill her for her stuff. Holding a prisoner is a waste of resources unless you have a plan for them like Carver. Though I'll keep my thoughts on him out of this thread. I'm more inclined to believe that whoever is left with Clem at the end or even just Clem herself would quickly realise Wellington is a big mistake and high-tail it back to the wilderness. END SEASON.

    Gengar posted: »

    Makes sense indeed. I just hope it never comes to that point. I don't want Clem to be a prisoner for the 4th time.

  • Back to the wilderness? Aw man, that ending would suck...

    Kilenima posted: »

    Hmmm, to be honest with bandit's I can see it being more likely they would try to kill her for her stuff. Holding a prisoner is a waste of r

  • I never said that's how I would like it to end or how I think it will, I was just saying if our hypothesising turned out to be true I think it would be more likely Clem would become a nomadic character over another damn capture scene.

    Gengar posted: »

    Back to the wilderness? Aw man, that ending would suck...

  • Oh nvm what i said then :D

    Kilenima posted: »

    I never said that's how I would like it to end or how I think it will, I was just saying if our hypothesising turned out to be true I think it would be more likely Clem would become a nomadic character over another damn capture scene.

  • Honestly if this place turns out to be just like the boat plan, it would remind me too much of Season 1.

  • Probably because of Tavia going around and putting the word out to people... makes sense. But i haven't played 400 days in a while so im unsure if Tavia said where the place was that she was referring to.

    How does the word of a camp all the way up north in Michigan get all the way down south to Georgia,North Carolina,Virginia, etc.? It's all going to be a trap.

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    Invictus posted: »

    Including you.

  • I have a feeling that if the walkers or Carver doesn't kill them, the cold will...

  • I want to know why the street is completely clear of snow 2 years into the apocalypse.

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    It's going to be a horrible idea. Millions of people lived up north which = millions of walkers/crazy survivors. Even without the cold, I'll be damned id you expect me to head to a region with twenty walkers on every street corner. Add in to the fact that there's absolutely no farming beyond gardens, there's no heating, and a huge number of people headed up north, and you have a recipe for a massive disaster. The St. Johns would love it up north, because everybody will be resorting to cannibalism.

    In summary, shit's going down real good up north.

  • Wellington is an incredibly dumb idea.

    Why on Earth would you want to go somewhere where it's cold and snows all the time when food is scarce? Wouldn't you rather go somewhere with good growing conditions and where you could see for miles because it's pancake-flat in all directions? I'm thinking maybe Nebraska or Kansas. Yeah, okay, sure, you have to deal with zombies. In Wellington, you have to deal with starvation and freezing conditions, and the zombies will probably show up anyway. Not a good trade.

    Maybe I've just been playing too much Dwarf Fortress, but if your choices are between a lot of enemies that you can just keep out with thick-enough walls, and winter, which is an enemy you can't keep out unless you can magically grow things underground, I'll take the walking enemies.

    Then again, since this is TWD, they'd probably be hit by a walkernado or something.

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    I just want to throw this out, but Wellington is a real place in Michigan, it has a small population of little over 300, and seems to be really in the sticks, here's the Wikipedia page, maybe it really is a safe place?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_Township,_Michigan

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