That's clear enough. but Kenny goes through a similar process. If you go against him once, he can kill someone you're trying to resuscitate and attempt to leave you for dead while Lilly saves your life.
Both characters ended up doing terrible things thinking they were in the right, and both lose everything in the end. Kenny has the more conclusive story arc, but I think there are parallels between them that people seem to look past.
I think that if Lily came back, she would be able to relate with Kenny more and she would understand him. They've both lost all of their family so they will probably know how it feel to be alone now.
Dare I say, Lilly fans don't tend to spam gifs and talk about godlike facial features.
Regardless, the few well known Lilly fans are largely disliked. I myself am a Lilly fan. Yes, I am coming out. Don't shoot me, guys.
Maybe I missed something about Lilly, but on screen I don't remember her doing anything particularly useful for the group. She thought she was a dictator and was just overall a nasty person. Sorry if that seems harsh Lilly fans, but it is what it is. #ShotsFired
it's odd.
Lots of Kenny fans seem to want to rub it in people's faces or whatever, or are just really horrible about a character someone … moreelse really likes.
And yet when someone does the same about Kenny, they get all offended.
I'm a Kenny fan, but I can understand why people may prefer Lilly or Molly or Omid or anyone like that to him.
There's no need to be mean about other people's opinions guys. 'Live and let live', as they say.
What does rubbing it in to others who may be disappointed actually accomplish?
Flashbacks perhaps? It also looks like the animations in the "previously on TWD" recaps were done differently rather than copy/pasting so that might be it as well.
There are Larry animation files in S2, but that doesn't mean he's returning :P
And some Lee ones...
If anybody finds some "lilly203/lilly204/lilly205" files... that's when we should start worrying.
Flashbacks perhaps? It also looks like the animations in the "previously on TWD" recaps were done differently rather than copy/pasting so that might be it as well.
And I'm sure there are people who can't understand why people like Kenny more than her.
Such is the nature of opinion.
I think Kenny is justified in the meat locker and that Lilly did a terrible thing to Carley, but my husband pointed out that Lilly did the same thing to Carley that Lee did to the senator, and yet we don't want to be judged for that.
And do I rub it in his face? No of course I don't. Because I can accept that people have different opinions, and mine isn't always the right one. Nor is there always a 'right' one anyway.
Some of these files are from S2Ep1's "Previously on TWD", and the rest are just old animations being reused for different characters(Ep2 Pete uses at least one of Lee's animations from S1Ep5). Like I said about Lilly, if somebody finds "Lee203/204/205", or "DreamLee", that's when we can assume something like that is going to happen. I'm not saying it's definitely not going to happen if nobody finds those files- not all of the files for the next Episode are included in one Episode's files, after all, and I guess they could just use Lee's old model- but it's hard to assume until there's some kind of evidence. That said, I really would like to see a Lee dream.
Bonus fact(because why not):
TellTale had actually planned a dream sequence for Season 1 Episode 2. Whoever you didn't save(Carley or Doug) would haunt you in a dream and ask why you didn't save them, then compare themselves to the senator Lee killed just before the beginning of Episode 1.
Even if you don't like certain qualities of Kenny, there is next to nothing likable about Lilly. She treats everyone like complete garbage and tries to run the group as a dictator. All the while she never actually does anything useful for the group.
To quote Carley:
"You think you're some tough bitch, don't you? Like nothing can hurt you. But you're just a scared little girl. Get the fuck over it. Take a page from Lee's book and try helping somebody for once."
100% accurate. How does Lilly then respond to this criticism? She shoots Carley in the face. I don't care what Lilly was going through with the loss of her father, that doesn't make it okay to murder someone in cold blood.
Larry, and although it was debated if it was murder Larry had a chance of revival. As we all know, walkers don't come back instantly so they had some time to try CPR, and if he came back he'd be weak to start off with. Also, Lee killed someone, and yet you all think he's the patron saint of Macon.
(And by the way - I never said Kenny wasn't going to come back; only I didn't want him to. I'm not going to go down to your level by point scoring).
It's rather amusing you all fantasize about shooting Lilly. The thing is, since Kenny is back there will most likely be a death scene for him this time.. Enjoy
I never said that I didn't think Kenny would come back because I hated his character.
I said it because I thought it would cheapen the gravity of his final moments in season one. "I either save the kid or get to see her."
Umm... killing Larry wasn't done in cold blood. It's not the same thing at all.
And yes, Lee did kill someone, but I think its pretty obvious that his overall quality of a person is still generally pretty good. He started on the path of redemption in the very first episode and never stopped.
Larry, and although it was debated if it was murder Larry had a chance of revival. As we all know, walkers don't come back instantly so they… more had some time to try CPR, and if he came back he'd be weak to start off with. Also, Lee killed someone, and yet you all think he's the patron saint of Macon.
(And by the way - I never said Kenny wasn't going to come back; only I didn't want him to. I'm not going to go down to your level by point scoring).
Belan, just because you think there are no likeable qualities about Lilly doesn't mean it's true. Maybe you should take a page out of Flog61's book and try thinking about others for a change.
Even if you don't like certain qualities of Kenny, there is next to nothing likable about Lilly. She treats everyone like complete garbage a… morend tries to run the group as a dictator. All the while she never actually does anything useful for the group.
To quote Carley:
"You think you're some tough bitch, don't you? Like nothing can hurt you. But you're just a scared little girl. Get the fuck over it. Take a page from Lee's book and try helping somebody for once."
100% accurate. How does Lilly then respond to this criticism? She shoots Carley in the face. I don't care what Lilly was going through with the loss of her father, that doesn't make it okay to murder someone in cold blood.
It's rather amusing you all fantasize about shooting Lilly. The thing is, since Kenny is back there will most likely be a death scene for him this time.. Enjoy
Belan, just because you think there are no likeable qualities about Lilly doesn't mean it's true. Maybe you should take a page out of Flog61's book and try thinking about others for a change.
Well, it wasn't cold blooded apart from the fact he dropped a salt lick onto his face and allowed the blood to splatter all across his daughter's face and body.
Okay so you can't use the murdering argument against Lilly any more. Lee still did it.
We didn't see Lilly redeem herself as she didn't get the chance to - Telltale wrote her out of the game too quickly.
Umm... killing Larry wasn't done in cold blood. It's not the same thing at all.
And yes, Lee did kill someone, but I think its pretty obv… moreious that his overall quality of a person is still generally pretty good. He started on the path of redemption in the very first episode and never stopped.
Oh, and I just found this that somebody posted. Thought it was a good explanation for her stressy actions.
A. Her dad needs pills from the pharmacy. If they don't get them he could have a heart attack and die.
B. Fights with Kenny can be exhausting. How do you lead a group when one member wants it differently?
C.Paranoia. Your supply stocks are being stolen by one of the group members.
D.New People. Ben and Mr Parker/Travis come to the motor inn. Its more mouths to feed. But this was the only thing I disagreed with Lilly because we couldn't just leave them in the woods...
E. Starvation and lack of food. Hard to function when you can't eat.
F. A salt lick was dropped on her dad's head killing him in the process.
G. Bandit attacks. All the arrow shafts in the wall probably meant they went through a lot of shit.
H. Leaving the motor inn because someone was giving bandits supplies.
* Strong determination
* Caring nature those who respect her
* Leadership skills
* Her bigger balls than the wrest of the men
* Firey at… moretitude
* Knowledge/ Experience with the scenario
* Quick thinking to the situation
* Adaptability.
Now it's your turn. Kenny?
Her strong determination is her stubbornness, its either her way or the highway. This quality was more of a detriment than anything.
The only consistent caring nature she ever showed was to her father. She shows care towards Lee depending on what dialogue options you choose, but even that isn't consistent. Shes terrible to all of the other group members, with the exception of the children who she doesn't interact with.
Her leadership is awful. Like I've said before, she was nothing more than a dictator. When did her leadership ever lead to anything good? Even when she does have the right idea about something (rarely) she always goes about it the wrong way. Shes terrible at getting people on her side.
Bigger balls than the rest of the men? Ok? Do you have anything to base that on?
Her fiery attitude is a terrible quality. Its why no one is ever on her side about anything. She would be so much better off without it.
What knowledge/ experience with the scenario does she have over anyone else?? Are you saying she has more experience with the zombie apocalypse than the rest of the group? That doesn't make sense.
When does her quick thinking ever lead to anything good? There are plenty of characters with quick thinking that actually also go about things in the right manner.
Adaptability? Um.. no. She wasn't very adaptable at all. Not to the environment nor to the ideas of the people around her. If she was adaptable she wouldn't have been so stuck to the motor inn.
* Strong determination
* Caring nature those who respect her
* Leadership skills
* Her bigger balls than the wrest of the men
* Firey at… moretitude
* Knowledge/ Experience with the scenario
* Quick thinking to the situation
* Adaptability.
Now it's your turn. Kenny?
I love the way you all preach about us Lilly fans being horrible, than you make this thread for the sole purpose of irritating people that like her. Grow up. Pretty tall request for a bunch of people who recycle the same lame joke over and over again.
"GODLY STACHE HAR HAR HAR!"
Btw I know not everyone who like Kenny are like this. I'm talking about the obnoxious ones.
Why are you acting like Lilly is the only one who had to deal with these things. The rest of the group had to deal with the stress of these issues as well, with the exception of the Larry issue.
Oh, and I just found this that somebody posted. Thought it was a good explanation for her stressy actions.
A. Her dad needs pills from… more the pharmacy. If they don't get them he could have a heart attack and die.
B. Fights with Kenny can be exhausting. How do you lead a group when one member wants it differently?
C.Paranoia. Your supply stocks are being stolen by one of the group members.
D.New People. Ben and Mr Parker/Travis come to the motor inn. Its more mouths to feed. But this was the only thing I disagreed with Lilly because we couldn't just leave them in the woods...
E. Starvation and lack of food. Hard to function when you can't eat.
F. A salt lick was dropped on her dad's head killing him in the process.
G. Bandit attacks. All the arrow shafts in the wall probably meant they went through a lot of shit.
H. Leaving the motor inn because someone was giving bandits supplies.
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There are Larry animation files in S2, but that doesn't mean he's returning :P
And some Lee ones...
If anybody finds some "lilly203/lilly204/lilly205" files... that's when we should start worrying.
it's odd.
Lots of Kenny fans seem to want to rub it in people's faces or whatever, or are just really horrible about a character someone else really likes.
And yet when someone does the same about Kenny, they get all offended.
I'm a Kenny fan, but I can understand why people may prefer Lilly or Molly or Omid or anyone like that to him.
There's no need to be mean about other people's opinions guys. 'Live and let live', as they say.
What does rubbing it in to others who may be disappointed actually accomplish?
That's clear enough. but Kenny goes through a similar process. If you go against him once, he can kill someone you're trying to resuscitate and attempt to leave you for dead while Lilly saves your life.
Both characters ended up doing terrible things thinking they were in the right, and both lose everything in the end. Kenny has the more conclusive story arc, but I think there are parallels between them that people seem to look past.
This would actually be a good way to advance both Kenny's and Lilly's relationship, I wouldn't mind seeing this happen.
n-
no.
a lot of people hate kenny, just a lot less than the amount of people that hate lilly.
about 30% probably hate both.
teamkenny
I wasn't surprised when it turned out to be Kenny. Disappointed sure, but not surprised.
I liked him in season one, but now I'm just bored with the character. I already learned everything I wanted to know about Kenny in season one.
Christa was the one I was hoping for, because there are a lot of unanswered questions connected to her character.
Lilly would have been my second choice, I'm curious about what happened to her. Molly too. Kenny, not so much.
It sucks to be me
And murder other group members in cold blood?
Maybe I missed something about Lilly, but on screen I don't remember her doing anything particularly useful for the group. She thought she was a dictator and was just overall a nasty person. Sorry if that seems harsh Lilly fans, but it is what it is. #ShotsFired
I can't understand why anyone would prefer Lilly over him. Not for the life of me.
Fuck you Zyphon!!
Haha just kidding
But seriously.
Both Lily and Kenny were dead to me at the end of season 1. Go Luke!
Flashbacks perhaps? It also looks like the animations in the "previously on TWD" recaps were done differently rather than copy/pasting so that might be it as well.
So what was the point in this thread? To show off an gloat? Fantastic.
Yeah, I'm thinking Lee is going to re-appear in one of Clementine's dreams or something.
You can't fathom how a game driven by variable character interaction and grey morality would cause a difference of opinion?
This might not even be a thing but the walker from Episode 5's slide looks like it's wearing a shirt very similar to Lee Everett.
I still wanna shoot her in the face.
And I'm sure there are people who can't understand why people like Kenny more than her.
Such is the nature of opinion.
I think Kenny is justified in the meat locker and that Lilly did a terrible thing to Carley, but my husband pointed out that Lilly did the same thing to Carley that Lee did to the senator, and yet we don't want to be judged for that.
And do I rub it in his face? No of course I don't. Because I can accept that people have different opinions, and mine isn't always the right one. Nor is there always a 'right' one anyway.
Some of these files are from S2Ep1's "Previously on TWD", and the rest are just old animations being reused for different characters(Ep2 Pete uses at least one of Lee's animations from S1Ep5). Like I said about Lilly, if somebody finds "Lee203/204/205", or "DreamLee", that's when we can assume something like that is going to happen. I'm not saying it's definitely not going to happen if nobody finds those files- not all of the files for the next Episode are included in one Episode's files, after all, and I guess they could just use Lee's old model- but it's hard to assume until there's some kind of evidence. That said, I really would like to see a Lee dream.
Bonus fact(because why not):
TellTale had actually planned a dream sequence for Season 1 Episode 2. Whoever you didn't save(Carley or Doug) would haunt you in a dream and ask why you didn't save them, then compare themselves to the senator Lee killed just before the beginning of Episode 1.
Kenny and Lilly, its like the Beatles and the Stones. People say you can't like both. And I for sure didn't. Teamkenny!
Yeah, like Kenny does!
When did Kenny ever do that exactly..?
Even if you don't like certain qualities of Kenny, there is next to nothing likable about Lilly. She treats everyone like complete garbage and tries to run the group as a dictator. All the while she never actually does anything useful for the group.
To quote Carley:
"You think you're some tough bitch, don't you? Like nothing can hurt you. But you're just a scared little girl. Get the fuck over it. Take a page from Lee's book and try helping somebody for once."
100% accurate. How does Lilly then respond to this criticism? She shoots Carley in the face. I don't care what Lilly was going through with the loss of her father, that doesn't make it okay to murder someone in cold blood.
Larry, and although it was debated if it was murder Larry had a chance of revival. As we all know, walkers don't come back instantly so they had some time to try CPR, and if he came back he'd be weak to start off with. Also, Lee killed someone, and yet you all think he's the patron saint of Macon.
(And by the way - I never said Kenny wasn't going to come back; only I didn't want him to. I'm not going to go down to your level by point scoring).
It's rather amusing you all fantasize about shooting Lilly. The thing is, since Kenny is back there will most likely be a death scene for him this time.. Enjoy
I agree, Mike!
Umm... killing Larry wasn't done in cold blood. It's not the same thing at all.
And yes, Lee did kill someone, but I think its pretty obvious that his overall quality of a person is still generally pretty good. He started on the path of redemption in the very first episode and never stopped.
Belan, just because you think there are no likeable qualities about Lilly doesn't mean it's true. Maybe you should take a page out of Flog61's book and try thinking about others for a change.
And he'll once again go down in epic fashion.
OK, so you found it necessary to create an entire thread just to rub it in our faces?
Charming.
Only this time he won't be able to return apart from as a walker
What do you find likable about Lilly..? I'm curious. The likable qualities are certainly not obvious.
Well, it wasn't cold blooded apart from the fact he dropped a salt lick onto his face and allowed the blood to splatter all across his daughter's face and body.
Okay so you can't use the murdering argument against Lilly any more. Lee still did it.
We didn't see Lilly redeem herself as she didn't get the chance to - Telltale wrote her out of the game too quickly.
Now it's your turn. Kenny?
Oh, and I just found this that somebody posted. Thought it was a good explanation for her stressy actions.
Her strong determination is her stubbornness, its either her way or the highway. This quality was more of a detriment than anything.
The only consistent caring nature she ever showed was to her father. She shows care towards Lee depending on what dialogue options you choose, but even that isn't consistent. Shes terrible to all of the other group members, with the exception of the children who she doesn't interact with.
Her leadership is awful. Like I've said before, she was nothing more than a dictator. When did her leadership ever lead to anything good? Even when she does have the right idea about something (rarely) she always goes about it the wrong way. Shes terrible at getting people on her side.
Bigger balls than the rest of the men? Ok? Do you have anything to base that on?
Her fiery attitude is a terrible quality. Its why no one is ever on her side about anything. She would be so much better off without it.
What knowledge/ experience with the scenario does she have over anyone else?? Are you saying she has more experience with the zombie apocalypse than the rest of the group? That doesn't make sense.
When does her quick thinking ever lead to anything good? There are plenty of characters with quick thinking that actually also go about things in the right manner.
Adaptability? Um.. no. She wasn't very adaptable at all. Not to the environment nor to the ideas of the people around her. If she was adaptable she wouldn't have been so stuck to the motor inn.
I love the way you all preach about us Lilly fans being horrible, than you make this thread for the sole purpose of irritating people that like her. Grow up. Pretty tall request for a bunch of people who recycle the same lame joke over and over again.
"GODLY STACHE HAR HAR HAR!"
Btw I know not everyone who like Kenny are like this. I'm talking about the obnoxious ones.
Why are you acting like Lilly is the only one who had to deal with these things. The rest of the group had to deal with the stress of these issues as well, with the exception of the Larry issue.
thats file for her at season 1