Walter...
Anyone else goofed off that Walter copped it? I thought he was a really interesting character, I also thought he could've been a great sort of mentor to Clem, it was refreshing to meet a character who "Looked on the bright side of life" and was optimistic about the future. He was very-kind and welcoming to everyone in the group too. So... yeah if down the line we get a chance to off Carver then I WILL HAVE MY VENGEANCE! For Walt!
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Well, he must have been to good for a world like that. ):
Haha yep, must've been.
It would have been good to keep him in the game as a sort of peacemaker, to at least have someone to back you up when you don't want to chose sides.
I was looking forward to seeing the dynamic between him and Nick going forward. And even just seeing how Walter's outlook would be affected by finally knowing the truth. So of course it turns out that both characters could die and all that potential went down the drain.
FOR NARNIA, I mean uh, FOR WALTER!
Good people always die in TWD. That's just the way it is. I'm expecting Sarita to go pretty soon.
I feel I'm the only one who got a bit irritated by him. When he was going outside
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"Don't worry every thing will be fine Luke and Kenny will become bro's and everything will be great
" "You read Steinbeck?"
"Don't worry strange lady you go away without us checking who you are, Take a full box of supplies too!"
I was just looking at him and thinking your gonna die your more innocent than Sarah, he was a decent guy though but in this world you just can't be like that.
Yeah I liked him and all but even I was like "Check her for weapons" haha, you can see that he was trying to make the world a better place but.... ....most of the world is too far gone ain't it
I still feel it was a wasted opportunity killing him so soon. Like night owl mentioned there could have been a really cool dynamic there but what can ya do!? Still we have good reason to think Carver is a proper bastard now so YAY! It all works out!..And when I blow his head off or feed him to the geeks my victory will taste all the more sweeter! ( I will be victorious )
I loved Walter a lot. He was sweet and intelligent and I just wanted to know more about him, hear more about him. I was prepared to really love this guy!
Gonna be honest, I'm bummed that The Walking Dead game got it's first LGBT characters in Matthew and Walter, only for them to be killed off in the same episode they're introduced. For a game that does very well with ethnic representation, it's kind of disappointing that this is the best they could do with representing the gay community. I mean, yeah, it's a step up from nothing, but still! A lot of people didn't even know they were gay, which is a problem in and of itself. Hopefully in the future there will be more LGBT characters.
Regardless, they wouldn't replace Walter. His death just hurt my heart.
I don't understand....was Walter gay?
Yes, he and Matthew were a couple. He referred to Matt as his partner, they went on vacations together, and Matthew's knife had their initials engraved on it.
A lot of people didn't pick up on this but it's canon.
Yeah, I can't really believe anyone could miss that really. Same thing in the "last of us" with Bill, lots of folks missed that. I reckon I've got pretty good "Gaydar" as they say. Devs have kind of been (Subtly) slipping stuff like that into some of the biggest games we've played recently which is neat...
Yeah, first thing I said after last night's episode of the TV show was, "Man, you know something's not right in the world when AMC does a better job at representation than TellTale..." :P
I love the show for what it is, but there's really no denying that early seasons had a real, almost worrying, problem with representation. From switching out a strong black character from the comics in favor of a white redneck character as Rick's right hand man, and throwing in T-Dog as a replacement, and then treating him like the most blatant token black guy ever conceived will always be a blight on their record. Oh, and let's not forget their seemingly constant attempts at making the women look like idiots. So it's rather nice to see that in addition to finally learning how to include human and likable black characters and female characters with as much conflict and individual story as the white male characters, they've added Tara, who has her own conflict, a sexuality that's not ignored but also not pushed to the forefront, is a sweet and likable character, and most importantly... isn't flippin' dead, lol. I mean, that may change, of course, but the show has definitely come a long way from the early days.
I like to attribute it to Glen Mazzara pissing off from the staff, but I blame him for everything, so maybe that's unfair, lol.
To me it was kind of obvious as well? Especially when Walter looked at the picture of him and Matthew before he died. That just sealed the deal, it was obvious that he loved him.
I appreciate the subtlety, because it emphasizes that a gay character's personality doesn't revolve around their orientation, but on the other hand, like in the case of Matthew and Walter, it also makes it easy for some people to just completely glaze over it. So it's a double-edged sword. I almost kind of just wish they'd have a character say "Yep I'm gay, anyway, let's go kick ass" just so things like this wouldn't have to be up for debate.
I haven't watched much of the show, but I've heard about Tara, and I'm glad she's been included.
But you're right, it's so frustrating! Telltale is amazing with it's racial representation, and it's female representation. The diversity of this game is one of the reason I love and admire it so much. Given how well they write female characters and characters of color, how deliberate they are to have complex, strong, and intelligent characters who aren't just white men, I'm honestly very shocked there aren't more LGBT characters.
Well, that we know of, anyway... -flips on "The Shipper Buried Deep, Deep Down Inside of Me" switch- Shel and Stephanie were a thing, goddamn it! -flips switch off-
Ahem... anyway, I agree. :P But at the very least, I think it's a testament to them that even someone like Matthew was so likable in the briefest of seconds he had with us. I still remember my sister and I being well and truly shocked when he died because he was funny, kind, and helpful. I guess we just have to remember that it is TellTale. They love making us suffer :P Here's hoping for more great and diverse characters in the future.
Aw, man, Shel and Stephanie would have been cute together, and would have added a lot of heavier implications to Shel's story! Dammit, Telltale!
It's very true, though. Like, I'm frustrated that they weren't around for very long, but they don't feel like wasted characters because most people throughout the fanbase seem to have been really moved by the both of them. They certainly had impact.
Agreed. Hopefully they've gauged our positive reactions to Walter and Matthew, and will either have existing sexually ambiguous characters come out as LGBT, or introduce completely new ones who'll last more than one episode. Or both!
He was really nice and kind..
But that's the point.. those kind of people are gonna get picked off and killed eventually in a ZA world..
I mean telling bonnie that there was plenty food left was incredibly naive.. She could have been part of a bandit group who would kill for that food. (Carver aint much better lol but be was after his kid). As clem I told him to check for weapons straight away..
To be fair, the female representation isn't super...
There are twice as many male characters as female ones.
True, but speaking from a female perspective, the women aren't objectified, they're complex and diverse, and never once in playing this game have I ever felt ashamed or uncomfortable in my femininity. And it's sad to admit in 2014, but there's still a lot of games where I can't say that.
So maybe there aren't as many female characters, but the ones that exist I find to be well-written and powerful and I appreciate that a lot.
Sure, they aren't objectified, but the game serves as a great example of female invisibility, which is just as much a problem as stereotyping.
In other words, the battle is only half-won, and we can't really say that Telltale are 'amazing' in regard to their female representation.
The only AAA game company that has come close to even and well-done female representation is Bioware, in my opinion.
I thought Walter would have been a great character. It seemed like he had the psychopath characteristics inside of him. You could just see it when he was twisting around with the knife while smoking the cigarette. It seems like he gave Matthew the knife because he was scared of himself. He didn't want anything he could use to hurt people. I'm probably the only one that thought this.
if you get the chance to kill carver or maybe just walk away id kill him.
People are comfortable with different things, I guess. I agree there could be more female characters, but I still feel fairly represented and happy with how Telltale writes and includes women.
That scene was meant to feel creepy to trick you into panicking and struggling with the choices you make. Walter isn't a "psychopath", he's grieving. He just learned his lover died and he's looking at the keepsake that just tipped him off to what happened. It could have been anything, but Telltale made it a knife to make it more threatening, when in the end it wasn't. He just tosses the knife aside.
When it comes to representation, quality over quantity, IMO. The two can exist together but I don't think we're quite at the point where it's a feasible reality. That's partly down to me not thinking there are that many writers capable of doing both. So I would rather have a few well thought out female characters than have even representation where most or all are shallow stereotypes which, contrary to popular opinion, plagues male characters too. For that Telltale gets plenty of praise from me.