Well I most certainly don't feel the same. Greg is awesome and he can ship whoever he wants. So can I. And please, don't give me that it's p… moreedophilia crap. Most of us Cluke shippers aren't even old enough to be pedos.
It's just a video game. Deal with it.
I notice that they rate cod highly yet other games they rate lower
An example assassins creed 3 and 4 they give 3 8.5 but in 4 they built it up to be the best way better than give it the same score wtf
Didn't follow the old Playing Dead since I got in to the game a bit late, but watched a few of the old episodes and liked them. The new one … moreis terrible, anyways. All because of the host. (Also, blerg, IGN. I will never forgive them for past transgressions)
Ok, maybe YOU are not old enough to be a pedo, but LUKE is. THAT's the argument. I don't care if the shippers are children or child rapists (actually, I'd prefer they weren't child rapists), anything close to dating between an 11 year old and a 20 something year old is fucking sick to me, and pretty much everyone on earth.
Well I most certainly don't feel the same. Greg is awesome and he can ship whoever he wants. So can I. And please, don't give me that it's p… moreedophilia crap. Most of us Cluke shippers aren't even old enough to be pedos.
It's just a video game. Deal with it.
Your opinion is not a fact. I don't think it's messed up at all. Do you seriously think age matters in a zombie apocalypse?! He cares about her, and she cares about him. That's what matters. I'm pretty sure there are far worse things that could happen to Clem than a loving relationship with Luke.
I for one will be greatly disappointed if Cluke doesn't happen at some point. Their chemistry is real.
It's not our fault Greg is an absolute wanker, when someone is a wanker you call them out for it. And you're a mental case if you think Cluke is a good idea.
I don't usually post here but now I feel the need to express my disgust with this community. Wishing death upon a person who happens to be i… moren cancer remission just because he ships two FICTIONAL characters?! Seriously?! I hope Greg takes some sort of legal action against ALL of you for cyberbullying! Emailing this thread to him as we speak.
Oh, and guess what. I ship Cluke as well. They look absolutely adorable together and should hook up when Clem turns 18.
I don't usually post here but now I feel the need to express my disgust with this community. Wishing death upon a person who happens to be i… moren cancer remission just because he ships two FICTIONAL characters?! Seriously?! I hope Greg takes some sort of legal action against ALL of you for cyberbullying! Emailing this thread to him as we speak.
Oh, and guess what. I ship Cluke as well. They look absolutely adorable together and should hook up when Clem turns 18.
I really beg to differ, I believe this is the one of the most mature and fun community I have ever seen (It might not be right to compare my experiences due to different factors, but I did have bad experiences with forum). I can't speak for everyone** OR anyone who jokes about killing Greg**, but I can assure you nobody wants him dead in real life. Everyone IS annoyed by how he hosts the show and what he "ships" but I am sure that everyone knows how Greg loves the video game, you can practically tell it with his recent episode with Melissa Hutchison.
I myself personally, have come to an understanding of couples of great age differences. I came to like one fictional couple from the Korean drama prime minister and I. The story and chemistry was amazing.But that doesn't mean I am comfortable with the idea of Luke and Clem, Luke and Nick, and heck Kenney and Luke(view of Homosexual couples differ by culture and religion BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT). Many of the times their smallest gesture, interaction and kindness are mistaken and twisted into..something that is just not it...and thats just insulting to even a fictional character(I myself have been there before). If telltale does take the approach of LukeXClem then I cant do anything, and I am not going to do anything, It was their choice and I payed them. Heck, if they DO write up a good story with that then I will not be able to hold any argument, and might come into acceptance later on in years.
Bear in mind about the demography of this place. Not everyone is accustomed to the concept of people being crazy fangirls who pairs up living things with objects, with characters that is either completely out of the window or does not have any ground bases. It is to say that many of them hold what is considered idealistic perspective of romance and what not.Do understand that Shipping characters IS CRAZY AND CAN BE OUT OF THE WORLD, If I were to grab my history teacher and say "I ship RussiaXPrussiaXGermany!Russia should totally invade Prussia and Germany's vital region" , he is going to smack my head and berate me for mocking all the fallen soldiers and the tragic history that took place.
I don't usually post here but now I feel the need to express my disgust with this community. Wishing death upon a person who happens to be i… moren cancer remission just because he ships two FICTIONAL characters?! Seriously?! I hope Greg takes some sort of legal action against ALL of you for cyberbullying! Emailing this thread to him as we speak.
Oh, and guess what. I ship Cluke as well. They look absolutely adorable together and should hook up when Clem turns 18.
Many of the times their smallest gesture, interaction and kindness are mistaken and twisted into..something that is just not it...
Exactly, people take things for granted even with the smallest of detail. This often leads to misinterpretation of the character's well being and his/her relations with other characters, and thus ruining their image.
I don't mean to butt in all of a sudden, but you seem to have made this account several months ago, only to comment just this week? What have you been doing? Anyways...
Wishing death upon a person who happens to be in cancer remission just because he ships two FICTIONAL characters?! Seriously?!
I get where you're coming from: sending insults, "shots", and even death threats to Greg is not okay. "Shipping" is not a wrong thing, but it's who and how you "ship" them is what should come into our minds. What were seeing with this "Cluke" is definitely not okay. You can say "Oh, they're so adorable! They should be together til' death do them apart!!!" but we can't hide the fact that Clem is still a kid and Luke is a full-grown man, it's somewhat like pedophilia if you ask me. Why do you think a lot of people criticized EdwardXBella from Twilight?
I don't usually post here but now I feel the need to express my disgust with this community. Wishing death upon a person who happens to be i… moren cancer remission just because he ships two FICTIONAL characters?! Seriously?! I hope Greg takes some sort of legal action against ALL of you for cyberbullying! Emailing this thread to him as we speak.
Oh, and guess what. I ship Cluke as well. They look absolutely adorable together and should hook up when Clem turns 18.
So, what you're saying is, somebody in cancer remission should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want without consequences? Rape, murder, genocide... it's not "cyberbullying" if we're complaining about somebody who's a horrible person. It doesn't matter if the characters he ships are real or not, it's still just as bad.
I don't usually post here but now I feel the need to express my disgust with this community. Wishing death upon a person who happens to be i… moren cancer remission just because he ships two FICTIONAL characters?! Seriously?! I hope Greg takes some sort of legal action against ALL of you for cyberbullying! Emailing this thread to him as we speak.
Oh, and guess what. I ship Cluke as well. They look absolutely adorable together and should hook up when Clem turns 18.
Actually his opinion is fact. Pedophilia and any kind of sexual relationship between people of a large age gap (say an 11 year old and someone in their 20s) is considered disgusting or messed up in most developed societies.
And yes, age still matters in a zombie apocalypse. Children aren't fully developed physically and mentally until they're between 18 and 22 years of age. A zombie apocalypse can't change that.
He cares about her, and she cares about him. That's what matters. I'm pretty sure there are far worse things that could happen to Clem than a loving relationship with Luke.
Their chemistry is real.
Their chemistry is real, yes, for a brother and sister relationship. There's a big difference between that and a relationship between lovers. Kids like you really should figure this out before you go posting ignorant comments like that.
Your opinion is not a fact. I don't think it's messed up at all. Do you seriously think age matters in a zombie apocalypse?! He cares about … moreher, and she cares about him. That's what matters. I'm pretty sure there are far worse things that could happen to Clem than a loving relationship with Luke.
I for one will be greatly disappointed if Cluke doesn't happen at some point. Their chemistry is real.
Will you have my babies XD, sorry that was in bad taste. But seriously that was really well said, I get the feeling that Amanda Ressler may be a troll, no sensible person can argue for pedophilia.
Your opinion is not a fact.
Actually his opinion is fact. Pedophilia and any kind of sexual relationship between people of a large a… morege gap (say an 11 year old and someone in their 20s) is considered disgusting or messed up in most developed societies.
And yes, age still matters in a zombie apocalypse. Children aren't fully developed physically and mentally until they're between 18 and 22 years of age. A zombie apocalypse can't change that.
He cares about her, and she cares about him. That's what matters. I'm pretty sure there are far worse things that could happen to Clem than a loving relationship with Luke.
Their chemistry is real.
Their chemistry is real, yes, for a brother and sister relationship. There's a big difference between that and a relationship between lovers. Kids like you really should figure this out before you go posting ignorant comments like that.
If for some reason they were actually and truly in love, maybe I would be more willing to concede and just let love be love, but the fact is there has been zero indication of the two being in love. So yes, its messed up that you want a 25 year old man to get down with an 11 year old girl just because you want to see it happen. Even if they had romantic feelings for each other, it wouldn't be a healthy relationship. You know Clem deserves better. If she ever does get together with Luke, it'll likely be when shes older.. as in 8-10 years older.
Your opinion is not a fact. I don't think it's messed up at all. Do you seriously think age matters in a zombie apocalypse?! He cares about … moreher, and she cares about him. That's what matters. I'm pretty sure there are far worse things that could happen to Clem than a loving relationship with Luke.
I for one will be greatly disappointed if Cluke doesn't happen at some point. Their chemistry is real.
If for some reason they were actually and truly in love, maybe I would be more willing to concede and just let love be love, but the fact is… more there has been zero indication of the two being in love. So yes, its messed up that you want a 25 year old man to get down with an 11 year old girl just because you want to see it happen. Even if they had romantic feelings for each other, it wouldn't be a healthy relationship. You know Clem deserves better. If she ever does get together with Luke, it'll likely be when shes older.. as in 8-10 years older.
How can someone be so narrow minded? You and the vast majority of these other posters will readily admit that Clementine is far more mature than the typical eleven year old, but then when arguing against her having a mature relationship you go back to treating her like a normal eleven year old girl? Where is the logic? And just because Luke and Clem have a lovers relationship doesn't mean they have to "get down" with one another. Grow up please. Amanda didn't say anything about sexually involving the two.
If Clem deserves better, who does she deserve? Shes too mature to have romantic interest in someone her own age. It wouldn't fit right. How about you and everyone else gets honest here and admits the only issue they have is that the situation is weird to them. Its different and unheard of in this day and age, but that does not mean they can not have a legitimate relationship just because you think its weird or disgusting.
If for some reason they were actually and truly in love, maybe I would be more willing to concede and just let love be love, but the fact is… more there has been zero indication of the two being in love. So yes, its messed up that you want a 25 year old man to get down with an 11 year old girl just because you want to see it happen. Even if they had romantic feelings for each other, it wouldn't be a healthy relationship. You know Clem deserves better. If she ever does get together with Luke, it'll likely be when shes older.. as in 8-10 years older.
How can someone be so narrow minded? You and the vast majority of these other posters will readily admit that Clementine is far more mature … morethan the typical eleven year old, but then when arguing against her having a mature relationship you go back to treating her like a normal eleven year old girl? Where is the logic? And just because Luke and Clem have a lovers relationship doesn't mean they have to "get down" with one another. Grow up please. Amanda didn't say anything about sexually involving the two.
If Clem deserves better, who does she deserve? Shes too mature to have romantic interest in someone her own age. It wouldn't fit right. How about you and everyone else gets honest here and admits the only issue they have is that the situation is weird to them. Its different and unheard of in this day and age, but that does not mean they can not have a legitimate relationship just because you think its weird or disgusting.
I suppose you could interpret that picture in a number of ways. That's hardly evidence of her being in love with him. I have openly said that I could see her possibly having a crush on him, but I highly doubt it would be anything she would pursue and we have not seen any solid evidence of her having these feelings.
Better than Luke? Please.
And there actually is indication of love, at least on Clem's part. Have you seen the way she looks at him?
… more
She's like: Dayum, he fine!
Luke might think of her as his little sister, but Clem definitely has a crush on him.
That's great.. but if you would have actually thoroughly read my previous post you would realize that I have already stated that I would maybe be more willing to accept a relationship between the two if they were actually truly in love with each other. I'll state once again that we haven't seen any solid evidence of this being the case. That's what my whole argument is about. Thanks for the rant though, it was truly enlightening. Oh and newsflash, if the two are in fact going to have a "mature relationship", that involves the sexuality aspect.. especially since we're talking about a 25 year old man here. Unless of course, you're contradicting yourself, thinking that mature Clem should have an immature relationship in comparison to a mature one (which contains the sexual aspect of relationships)
Clem deserves better in the fact that she has the right to a healthy relationship. No matter how much you like Luke and the so called chemistry between the two, the two of them can not have a healthy romantic relationship. How you think they can is straight up baffling. And yes, of course we all find the Cluke theory weird. Thanks for pointing that out Einstein. Why else would we be here debating the point? It's more complicated than that.
How can someone be so narrow minded? You and the vast majority of these other posters will readily admit that Clementine is far more mature … morethan the typical eleven year old, but then when arguing against her having a mature relationship you go back to treating her like a normal eleven year old girl? Where is the logic? And just because Luke and Clem have a lovers relationship doesn't mean they have to "get down" with one another. Grow up please. Amanda didn't say anything about sexually involving the two.
If Clem deserves better, who does she deserve? Shes too mature to have romantic interest in someone her own age. It wouldn't fit right. How about you and everyone else gets honest here and admits the only issue they have is that the situation is weird to them. Its different and unheard of in this day and age, but that does not mean they can not have a legitimate relationship just because you think its weird or disgusting.
That's great.. but if you would have actually thoroughly read my previous post you would realize that I have already stated that I would may… morebe be more willing to accept a relationship between the two if they were actually truly in love with each other. I'll state once again that we haven't seen any solid evidence of this being the case. That's what my whole argument is about. Thanks for the rant though, it was truly enlightening. Oh and newsflash, if the two are in fact going to have a "mature relationship", that involves the sexuality aspect.. especially since we're talking about a 25 year old man here. Unless of course, you're contradicting yourself, thinking that mature Clem should have an immature relationship in comparison to a mature one (which contains the sexual aspect of relationships)
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Hi Shaundi.
So, what you're saying is, somebody in cancer remission should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want without consequen… moreces? Rape, murder, genocide... it's not "cyberbullying" if we're complaining about somebody who's a horrible person. It doesn't matter if the characters he ships are real or not, it's still just as bad.
I can't believe how many reactions she stirred with just 3 comments. Still, a lot of people actually agree with this. No one in their right minds could seriously consider Clem and Luke can have another relationship besides a brother& sister one.
Sorry for being so 'narrow minded', but what I'm getting from your comment is that you're okay with an 11 year old having a boyfriend in his 20s. I do think that is disgusting because first, it's pedophilia, and second, I don't see anything in Luke and Clem's relationship to suggest she has any kind of romantic interest in him. The way Clem looks at Luke is more affectionate than romantic, much like the way a sister will look at an older brother. I happen to know this because I have a younger sister, and Clem's actions seem fairly realistic to me. They do certainly have a relationship, but it's not the kind you're thinking of.
It also doesn't matter how mature Clem is, mentally. She's still an 11 year old. That's why a lot of people on this forum were weirded out when Clem was given a lot of responsibility in Episode 2 (help deal with the bridge, climb the watch tower, shut down the turbine, and so on). If you really had been paying attention to this community then you'd know this.
I also don't believe she's too mature to have an interest in someone her own age. Think about it, any kid who has survived in the zombie apocalypse for over two years is most likely a capable and mature survivor (like Clem), overly sheltered (like Sarah), or a sociopath (like Carl in the comics).
I submit that you're the one being narrow minded here.
I submit that by assuming a close relationship means a romantic relationship, forgetting that Clementine is still an 11 year old and not fully mature yet, and also ignoring the possibility that there might be other kids that have survived like her, that you are the one being narrow minded here.
How can someone be so narrow minded? You and the vast majority of these other posters will readily admit that Clementine is far more mature … morethan the typical eleven year old, but then when arguing against her having a mature relationship you go back to treating her like a normal eleven year old girl? Where is the logic? And just because Luke and Clem have a lovers relationship doesn't mean they have to "get down" with one another. Grow up please. Amanda didn't say anything about sexually involving the two.
If Clem deserves better, who does she deserve? Shes too mature to have romantic interest in someone her own age. It wouldn't fit right. How about you and everyone else gets honest here and admits the only issue they have is that the situation is weird to them. Its different and unheard of in this day and age, but that does not mean they can not have a legitimate relationship just because you think its weird or disgusting.
Why are you in such support of a pedophile relationship between a man in his mid 20s and an 11 year old girl. I mean come on, you're looking for evidence where there is none to be found!
Better than Luke? Please.
And there actually is indication of love, at least on Clem's part. Have you seen the way she looks at him?
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She's like: Dayum, he fine!
Luke might think of her as his little sister, but Clem definitely has a crush on him.
Ok, you just said all the things I hate to hear about this kind of relationship. A teenage girl NEVER dates a grown man because she is mature. On the contrary, she dates him because she isn't. It's called daddy issues and it happens because the girl needs a surrogate father that will shield her from her shitty adolescence and the guy is also too inmature to date women within his age range. Statistically, this kind of relationships are much more likely to be phisically and psicologically abusive. There's a reason why it's illegal! Even if girls are very mature overall, that doesn't mean they are sexually mature. Also, there's no way they would ever be equals, Clem is more likely to be a beloved pet. I love my dogs, but I'm on fucking charge. And I know I said "girl", but it work the other way around too.
Finally, and this is what bugs me the most about this kind of arguments, if a someone is so mature for his/her age, why do they have to be the only ones? Wouldn't it make more sense if Clem were to find someone closer to her age, who had to grow up before time as well? Clem is pretty fucking special, but she can't be the only kid alive who not living in a zombie-free dreamworld. There's probably plenty of boys her age who, while maybe not as smart or mature, are at least at her level.
How can someone be so narrow minded? You and the vast majority of these other posters will readily admit that Clementine is far more mature … morethan the typical eleven year old, but then when arguing against her having a mature relationship you go back to treating her like a normal eleven year old girl? Where is the logic? And just because Luke and Clem have a lovers relationship doesn't mean they have to "get down" with one another. Grow up please. Amanda didn't say anything about sexually involving the two.
If Clem deserves better, who does she deserve? Shes too mature to have romantic interest in someone her own age. It wouldn't fit right. How about you and everyone else gets honest here and admits the only issue they have is that the situation is weird to them. Its different and unheard of in this day and age, but that does not mean they can not have a legitimate relationship just because you think its weird or disgusting.
Well, the voice actor of LEE shipped Clem and Ben, he actually suggested that "Perhaps Clementine allowed Ben to lose his virginity" http://www.twitch.tv/telltalegames/ look at the video of Dave Fennoy, and Melissa Hutchinson's playthrough of TWD season 1 on their twitch channel. It is very messed up, yet most people have the tendency of looking past it. Here is the video. http://www.twitch.tv/telltalegames/b/423101381
It's awful aj was a way better host. Greg is an annoying biased ahole who always interrupts his guests and makes god awful jokes. If that's not bad enough he also ships like and Clem he's a wierdo pedo
Honestly, I'm tired of Cluke. For fuck's sake, people who ship Cluke should start using their brains and realise that Luke might die in this season and Cluke will never fucking happen.
I like it too, but I still prefer the old Playing Dead. And I wouldn't give a shit who hosted it either as long as he was as good or better than the old one.
I wouldn't have a problem with it if Greg took it slightly more seriously instead of trying to make too many annoying jokes. The old playing dead is so much better IMO
I like it too, but I still prefer the old Playing Dead. And I wouldn't give a shit who hosted it either as long as he was as good or better than the old one.
The reason people get these ideas about Clementine in season 2 is because of the ridiculous and unrealistic way every adult on the game interacts with her. They talk to her in a very unnatural way that has taken all the realism out of the characters. It has ruined what made the first season so great for many fans. The conversations between Clem and Luke come off as strange and inappropriate because that's just not how adults talk to children. Adults would never interact with a preteen Clem in the manner they do in season two of the game under any circumstances.
The adults interact with Clementine in a comical way which is what ruined season two for me. You're right that she is treated as if she's mature enough to be in a sexual relationship with an adult, because she's treated in an extremely unrealistic manner as if she's no different than an adult by every single character. That doesn't mean she should be in a relationship with a man though; it just shows how ridiculous the writing is in this stupid piece of shit.
How can someone be so narrow minded? You and the vast majority of these other posters will readily admit that Clementine is far more mature … morethan the typical eleven year old, but then when arguing against her having a mature relationship you go back to treating her like a normal eleven year old girl? Where is the logic? And just because Luke and Clem have a lovers relationship doesn't mean they have to "get down" with one another. Grow up please. Amanda didn't say anything about sexually involving the two.
If Clem deserves better, who does she deserve? Shes too mature to have romantic interest in someone her own age. It wouldn't fit right. How about you and everyone else gets honest here and admits the only issue they have is that the situation is weird to them. Its different and unheard of in this day and age, but that does not mean they can not have a legitimate relationship just because you think its weird or disgusting.
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Sure, go ahead and ship whoever you want. Doesn't change the fact that it's messed up.
I notice that they rate cod highly yet other games they rate lower
An example assassins creed 3 and 4 they give 3 8.5 but in 4 they built it up to be the best way better than give it the same score wtf
Ok, maybe YOU are not old enough to be a pedo, but LUKE is. THAT's the argument. I don't care if the shippers are children or child rapists (actually, I'd prefer they weren't child rapists), anything close to dating between an 11 year old and a 20 something year old is fucking sick to me, and pretty much everyone on earth.
Your opinion is not a fact. I don't think it's messed up at all. Do you seriously think age matters in a zombie apocalypse?! He cares about her, and she cares about him. That's what matters. I'm pretty sure there are far worse things that could happen to Clem than a loving relationship with Luke.
I for one will be greatly disappointed if Cluke doesn't happen at some point. Their chemistry is real.
It's not our fault Greg is an absolute wanker, when someone is a wanker you call them out for it. And you're a mental case if you think Cluke is a good idea.
sorry wanted to reply to someone else
edit 2:nvm first time i did it right, sorry for double post)
I really beg to differ, I believe this is the one of the most mature and fun community I have ever seen (It might not be right to compare my experiences due to different factors, but I did have bad experiences with forum). I can't speak for everyone** OR anyone who jokes about killing Greg**, but I can assure you nobody wants him dead in real life. Everyone IS annoyed by how he hosts the show and what he "ships" but I am sure that everyone knows how Greg loves the video game, you can practically tell it with his recent episode with Melissa Hutchison.
I myself personally, have come to an understanding of couples of great age differences. I came to like one fictional couple from the Korean drama prime minister and I. The story and chemistry was amazing.But that doesn't mean I am comfortable with the idea of Luke and Clem, Luke and Nick, and heck Kenney and Luke(view of Homosexual couples differ by culture and religion BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT). Many of the times their smallest gesture, interaction and kindness are mistaken and twisted into..something that is just not it...and thats just insulting to even a fictional character(I myself have been there before). If telltale does take the approach of LukeXClem then I cant do anything, and I am not going to do anything, It was their choice and I payed them. Heck, if they DO write up a good story with that then I will not be able to hold any argument, and might come into acceptance later on in years.
Bear in mind about the demography of this place. Not everyone is accustomed to the concept of people being crazy fangirls who pairs up living things with objects, with characters that is either completely out of the window or does not have any ground bases. It is to say that many of them hold what is considered idealistic perspective of romance and what not.Do understand that Shipping characters IS CRAZY AND CAN BE OUT OF THE WORLD, If I were to grab my history teacher and say "I ship RussiaXPrussiaXGermany!Russia should totally invade Prussia and Germany's vital region" , he is going to smack my head and berate me for mocking all the fallen soldiers and the tragic history that took place.
the example from Hetalia by the way o-o;.
Exactly, people take things for granted even with the smallest of detail. This often leads to misinterpretation of the character's well being and his/her relations with other characters, and thus ruining their image.
I don't mean to butt in all of a sudden, but you seem to have made this account several months ago, only to comment just this week? What have you been doing? Anyways...
I get where you're coming from: sending insults, "shots", and even death threats to Greg is not okay. "Shipping" is not a wrong thing, but it's who and how you "ship" them is what should come into our minds. What were seeing with this "Cluke" is definitely not okay. You can say "Oh, they're so adorable! They should be together til' death do them apart!!!" but we can't hide the fact that Clem is still a kid and Luke is a full-grown man, it's somewhat like pedophilia if you ask me. Why do you think a lot of people criticized EdwardXBella from Twilight?
Hi Shaundi.
So, what you're saying is, somebody in cancer remission should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want without consequences? Rape, murder, genocide... it's not "cyberbullying" if we're complaining about somebody who's a horrible person. It doesn't matter if the characters he ships are real or not, it's still just as bad.
Actually his opinion is fact. Pedophilia and any kind of sexual relationship between people of a large age gap (say an 11 year old and someone in their 20s) is considered disgusting or messed up in most developed societies.
And yes, age still matters in a zombie apocalypse. Children aren't fully developed physically and mentally until they're between 18 and 22 years of age. A zombie apocalypse can't change that.
Their chemistry is real, yes, for a brother and sister relationship. There's a big difference between that and a relationship between lovers. Kids like you really should figure this out before you go posting ignorant comments like that.
Will you have my babies XD, sorry that was in bad taste. But seriously that was really well said, I get the feeling that Amanda Ressler may be a troll, no sensible person can argue for pedophilia.
If for some reason they were actually and truly in love, maybe I would be more willing to concede and just let love be love, but the fact is there has been zero indication of the two being in love. So yes, its messed up that you want a 25 year old man to get down with an 11 year old girl just because you want to see it happen. Even if they had romantic feelings for each other, it wouldn't be a healthy relationship. You know Clem deserves better. If she ever does get together with Luke, it'll likely be when shes older.. as in 8-10 years older.
I wont read all of that shit but i like Greg. He is real and funny and fan not like some other fake hosts.
Greg is a wanker, Sorry i couldn't help myself.
Better than Luke? Please.
And there actually is indication of love, at least on Clem's part. Have you seen the way she looks at him?
She's like: Dayum, he fine!
Luke might think of her as his little sister, but Clem definitely has a crush on him.
The first paragraph basically says "don't read this if you don't want to". And I do like Greg, I just prefer AJ Locasio.
How can someone be so narrow minded? You and the vast majority of these other posters will readily admit that Clementine is far more mature than the typical eleven year old, but then when arguing against her having a mature relationship you go back to treating her like a normal eleven year old girl? Where is the logic? And just because Luke and Clem have a lovers relationship doesn't mean they have to "get down" with one another. Grow up please. Amanda didn't say anything about sexually involving the two.
If Clem deserves better, who does she deserve? Shes too mature to have romantic interest in someone her own age. It wouldn't fit right. How about you and everyone else gets honest here and admits the only issue they have is that the situation is weird to them. Its different and unheard of in this day and age, but that does not mean they can not have a legitimate relationship just because you think its weird or disgusting.
Thank you. People on this forum are just so closed minded... Like, let it go. Cluke has been approved by Melissa Hutchison herself.
I suppose you could interpret that picture in a number of ways. That's hardly evidence of her being in love with him. I have openly said that I could see her possibly having a crush on him, but I highly doubt it would be anything she would pursue and we have not seen any solid evidence of her having these feelings.
If this Cluke would be optional i still judge it but it would ease the pain if my Clementine didn't have to go through with this shit.
That's great.. but if you would have actually thoroughly read my previous post you would realize that I have already stated that I would maybe be more willing to accept a relationship between the two if they were actually truly in love with each other. I'll state once again that we haven't seen any solid evidence of this being the case. That's what my whole argument is about. Thanks for the rant though, it was truly enlightening. Oh and newsflash, if the two are in fact going to have a "mature relationship", that involves the sexuality aspect.. especially since we're talking about a 25 year old man here. Unless of course, you're contradicting yourself, thinking that mature Clem should have an immature relationship in comparison to a mature one (which contains the sexual aspect of relationships)
Clem deserves better in the fact that she has the right to a healthy relationship. No matter how much you like Luke and the so called chemistry between the two, the two of them can not have a healthy romantic relationship. How you think they can is straight up baffling. And yes, of course we all find the Cluke theory weird. Thanks for pointing that out Einstein. Why else would we be here debating the point? It's more complicated than that.
Yes... in the future. Which is a little more understandable, depending on how far into the future we're talking.
It would be pretty cheesy love subplot cause they have shared like 3. sad talky scenes and like 2. smiles = LOOOOVE?
Is this Disney or TWD?
Who the heck is Shaundi?
Playing dead season 1... those were good times.
I can't believe how many reactions she stirred with just 3 comments. Still, a lot of people actually agree with this. No one in their right minds could seriously consider Clem and Luke can have another relationship besides a brother& sister one.
Well, I guess that's all I need to know.
Sorry for being so 'narrow minded', but what I'm getting from your comment is that you're okay with an 11 year old having a boyfriend in his 20s. I do think that is disgusting because first, it's pedophilia, and second, I don't see anything in Luke and Clem's relationship to suggest she has any kind of romantic interest in him. The way Clem looks at Luke is more affectionate than romantic, much like the way a sister will look at an older brother. I happen to know this because I have a younger sister, and Clem's actions seem fairly realistic to me. They do certainly have a relationship, but it's not the kind you're thinking of.
It also doesn't matter how mature Clem is, mentally. She's still an 11 year old. That's why a lot of people on this forum were weirded out when Clem was given a lot of responsibility in Episode 2 (help deal with the bridge, climb the watch tower, shut down the turbine, and so on). If you really had been paying attention to this community then you'd know this.
I also don't believe she's too mature to have an interest in someone her own age. Think about it, any kid who has survived in the zombie apocalypse for over two years is most likely a capable and mature survivor (like Clem), overly sheltered (like Sarah), or a sociopath (like Carl in the comics).
I submit that you're the one being narrow minded here.
I submit that by assuming a close relationship means a romantic relationship, forgetting that Clementine is still an 11 year old and not fully mature yet, and also ignoring the possibility that there might be other kids that have survived like her, that you are the one being narrow minded here.
Season 2 of playing dead hosted by Dave Fennoy. One can dream cant he?
Why are you in such support of a pedophile relationship between a man in his mid 20s and an 11 year old girl. I mean come on, you're looking for evidence where there is none to be found!
Ok, you just said all the things I hate to hear about this kind of relationship. A teenage girl NEVER dates a grown man because she is mature. On the contrary, she dates him because she isn't. It's called daddy issues and it happens because the girl needs a surrogate father that will shield her from her shitty adolescence and the guy is also too inmature to date women within his age range. Statistically, this kind of relationships are much more likely to be phisically and psicologically abusive. There's a reason why it's illegal! Even if girls are very mature overall, that doesn't mean they are sexually mature. Also, there's no way they would ever be equals, Clem is more likely to be a beloved pet. I love my dogs, but I'm on fucking charge. And I know I said "girl", but it work the other way around too.
Finally, and this is what bugs me the most about this kind of arguments, if a someone is so mature for his/her age, why do they have to be the only ones? Wouldn't it make more sense if Clem were to find someone closer to her age, who had to grow up before time as well? Clem is pretty fucking special, but she can't be the only kid alive who not living in a zombie-free dreamworld. There's probably plenty of boys her age who, while maybe not as smart or mature, are at least at her level.
Well, the voice actor of LEE shipped Clem and Ben, he actually suggested that "Perhaps Clementine allowed Ben to lose his virginity"
http://www.twitch.tv/telltalegames/ look at the video of Dave Fennoy, and Melissa Hutchinson's playthrough of TWD season 1 on their twitch channel. It is very messed up, yet most people have the tendency of looking past it. Here is the video. http://www.twitch.tv/telltalegames/b/423101381
it should never happen even if luke survives..
I honestly couldn't give less of a shit who hosts it, as long as i'm seeing someone from the game on the show, i'm all fine and dandy.
I like it too, but I still prefer the old Playing Dead. And I wouldn't give a shit who hosted it either as long as he was as good or better than the old one.
I wouldn't have a problem with it if Greg took it slightly more seriously instead of trying to make too many annoying jokes. The old playing dead is so much better IMO
The reason people get these ideas about Clementine in season 2 is because of the ridiculous and unrealistic way every adult on the game interacts with her. They talk to her in a very unnatural way that has taken all the realism out of the characters. It has ruined what made the first season so great for many fans. The conversations between Clem and Luke come off as strange and inappropriate because that's just not how adults talk to children. Adults would never interact with a preteen Clem in the manner they do in season two of the game under any circumstances.
The adults interact with Clementine in a comical way which is what ruined season two for me. You're right that she is treated as if she's mature enough to be in a sexual relationship with an adult, because she's treated in an extremely unrealistic manner as if she's no different than an adult by every single character. That doesn't mean she should be in a relationship with a man though; it just shows how ridiculous the writing is in this stupid piece of shit.
Is there going to be one today?