Was Christa's baby just a convenient plot device all along? (and, well, baby stuff in general.)

Just thought I'd throw random thoughts at the wall to see what sticks; is it possible Christa's baby was just a convenient way to prepare Clementine off-screen for delivering Rebecca's baby, probably next episode, by the looks of it? That plot line ended...well, really abruptly. It's pretty obvious what happened and that they don't want to talk about it, but I feel like it'd be weird if it didn't have plot relevance later on. Especially after all that in season 1

On that note...interactive QTE child delivery next ep? ...er oh. Think it (or Rebecca) will make it through it?

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  • hmm I don't think their will be a QTE I'm sure they have docs at carvers settlement maybe we can talk her through it though.I'm not sure if Rebecca will survive childbirth or not but I don't see her making it out of this season. I think the season ends with clementine and the baby. do agree the plotline ended abruptly I did think that was weird I hope its explained what happened to christa baby.

  • I'm sure when they originally created Christa they never thought of season 2. To make season 2 possible they had to make clem older and as such Christa's baby had to be born. Also I really hope were not delivering a baby. I mean it's Carvers why would he leave rebecca and clem alone?

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    I dunno, just looking at the next episode's preview image, with the transparent prison bars and Clem and Rebecca alone in an empty looking room leads me to believe it's going to be just Clem and her for whatever reason.

    hmm I don't think their will be a QTE I'm sure they have docs at carvers settlement maybe we can talk her through it though.I'm not sure if

  • well the screens are never necessarily in the game just look at S2 EP2 screen it wasn't in the episode.

    Most of S1 screens weren't in the episodes

    The screens are just their to basically show you the characters feelings

    I dunno, just looking at the next episode's preview image, with the transparent prison bars and Clem and Rebecca alone in an empty looking room leads me to believe it's going to be just Clem and her for whatever reason.

  • That would make for an awkward QTE

    I'm sure when they originally created Christa they never thought of season 2. To make season 2 possible they had to make clem older and as s

  • Well, S2E2's was just Johnny and Troy tracking the Cabin group. Which did happen.

    well the screens are never necessarily in the game just look at S2 EP2 screen it wasn't in the episode. Most of S1 screens weren't in the episodes The screens are just their to basically show you the characters feelings

  • I have a lot of mixed feelings about the beginning of episode one. Everything feels very abrupt. I feel like they put Christa's pregnancy in for drama at the end of Season 1 without putting much thought into Season 2. Then when they got to Season 2 they just kind of made the logical assumption--that the child of a grieving, starving, constantly traveling, constantly in danger woman simply wouldn't survive.

    As for what will happen with Rebecca, I kind of have a feeling we'll be helping Carlos somehow. His fingers were broken so I can't imagine him being able to do everything necessary. I can't say for sure--I don't really want to help with delivering the baby, but I think no matter how it goes, the fact Carlos's fingers were broken was something to do with it.

  • I think it was meant to create a connection between Christa and Rebecca. Perhaps in Episode 3, we will find out what happened to Christa's baby, since it is possible that Rebecca will give birth in that Episode.

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    Honestly, I have a feeling that the abruptness of the baby story line was intentional, as they wanted to give a sense of confusion to be addressed later on. It doesn't seem like a Telltale thing to do to just leave it there. Plus, they stated that after all the episodes have been finished and released, Season Two will be a beautiful thing to look back on. So I believe this is for a bigger purpose in regards to the plot, and will be a part of the overall arc. I bet when Rebecca is about to have her baby, Clem will open up about what happened to Christa, and that we'll see her in the future. Like @DaveTheArakin mentioned, this might be meant to create a connection between them.

    As for an interactive QTE during the delivery, perhaps we will be there, but I doubt we'll actually be the ones doing it ourselves. Although we might be able to help from the sidelines. Also, on that note, I wonder how a newborn would look in this game's graphics?

    EDIT: I just thought of another plausible direction. If we do happen to be there for the delivery, do you think there is a chance of Clem bringing up what Lee said in response to her question about whether or not if he wants kids back in the barn in "Starved For Help"? Depending on our choices, her dialogue could change. That would most definitely make me cry.

  • ya I wonder what a baby would look like too. to my knowledge I don't think telltale ever had a baby in one of there games

    S-Rose posted: »

    Honestly, I have a feeling that the abruptness of the baby story line was intentional, as they wanted to give a sense of confusion to be add

  • Sounds about right - though the story of my friend's miscarried baby would probably be the last thing I'd tell a woman in labour about. :S

    S-Rose posted: »

    Honestly, I have a feeling that the abruptness of the baby story line was intentional, as they wanted to give a sense of confusion to be add

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    This is my belief as well. It's also why I think the baby will die one way or the other. The way I see it, between Omid's death and whatever happened with Christa's baby, Clementine may still need to emotionally unburden herself regarding those events. From what we see of her interactions with Christa post time-skip, I get the impression that for the most part they've never talked about it so she's never had the chance for that release (and neither has Christa). Rebecca's pregnancy provides an opportunity for Clem to get that emotional closure she probably couldn't get with Christa because of the latter's grief and apathy.

    I'm going to say no to the QTE though. For the same reason I did before which was taking players too much out of their comfort zone. Aside from that, the one doing most of the work is Rebecca and so a QTE wouldn't be needed for simply waiting for her to push or whatever. At most, they'll probably just have us gathering supplies or talking her through the pain.

    I think it was meant to create a connection between Christa and Rebecca. Perhaps in Episode 3, we will find out what happened to Christa's baby, since it is possible that Rebecca will give birth in that Episode.

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    Whoops, I meant to convey that maybe Clem could talk about how she knew someone in her position to comfort Rebecca, so she'd know that she's not the first to go through this. Or possibly even something about hope after death. Not the miscarriage. Of course the ideal scenario would be Christa appearing in time to encourage her through the process, but either way, this has a high probability of being a touching scene.

    Sounds about right - though the story of my friend's miscarried baby would probably be the last thing I'd tell a woman in labour about. :S

  • Ah. I see, that would make more sense.

    S-Rose posted: »

    Whoops, I meant to convey that maybe Clem could talk about how she knew someone in her position to comfort Rebecca, so she'd know that she's

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    I don't know about that plot device theory, but I sure as hell don't believe Clem's gonna deliver that baby. I mean, come on. If Carver really went so far to get Rebecca back because of the baby, he will surely do everything in his might to safely deliver it into this world. Even if he has no doctors, he will make Carlos do it. Heck, I bet he would probably rather deliver the baby himself than letting a 11 year old girl do it for him.

  • Well, just a guess, but looking at the trailer, walkers might be knocking down his walls as it happens.

    Wouldn't be the first time in the TWDverse a baby decided to come out while shit was hitting the fan.

    I don't know about that plot device theory, but I sure as hell don't believe Clem's gonna deliver that baby. I mean, come on. If Carver real

  • Nah. don't think TT made Crista just as a plot device. They probably weren't even thinking about season 2 at the time as they didn't know how successful the game would be. Ofcourse when it was popular and season 2 was decided on, then they had to do something with Crista's baby bump. TT obviously opted for a time skip and the baby not to make it which is understandable seeing as Christa and Clem were finding it hard enough to find food and Christa's eating for 2. Not to mention Christa's depressive state after loosing Omid, won't have helped. This is why I think Rebecca was made. Rebecca may just be a plot device to get some answers about Christa though. I certainly don't see Rebecca surviving much after the birth. We'll get our answers, the baby will be born and Rebecca's death will soon follow.

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    The baby was already heavily implied in season 1. And we never do hear what the fuck happened to Omid Jr, so it could be a miscarriage because of Omid's death. Frankly, it makes more sense. Having the baby die after childbirth or be a stillborn is a little too much!

  • I don't think so. Christa's pregnancy was hinted at pretty heavily during Season 1. I don't think during Episode 3 when Omid and Christa first appeared they were thinking that far ahead. Besides, I have a feeling that Christa's baby was probably a still birth and something she would have "handled" privately/away from Clementine.

  • TV SHOW SPOILERS

    I'm not familiar with the comics but in the TV show Maggie has to cut the baby out of Lori's stomach, but i somewhat hope that doesent happen :/

  • TV SHOW SPOILERS

    I'm not familiar with the comics but in the TV show Maggie has to cut the baby out of Lori's stomach, but i somewhat hope that doesent happen :/

  • Man, an interactive C-Section would be even worse. :C

    TV SHOW SPOILERS I'm not familiar with the comics but in the TV show Maggie has to cut the baby out of Lori's stomach, but i somewhat hope that doesent happen

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    This thread suddenly made me think of something: What if Christa finds the group and she sees the baby? Will she go out of her mind when confronted with what could have been her future? Or will she simply be happy that this baby did survive?

    Scary stuff...

  • If Christa will somehow be in Episode 3 and will see the Rebecca's baby (if it doesn't die), shit will hit the fan.

  • I'm fairly sure that could've happened with Christa, as Clem says "Just like Christa taught me" as she stitches her arm.

    Man, an interactive C-Section would be even worse. :C

  • Whether the baby's alive or dead, I just hope Telltale will give us SOME idea of what happened to it in the next episode - along with what happened to Christa.

  • I kinda thought too that Clem might help Carlos deliver the baby, but that made me question why Carver crippled and threaten to kill Carlos in the first place. Threatening to kill him was probably a bluff, but why would you break the fingers of a DOCTOR of all people? Sure, they might have another doctor at Carver's camp that is planning on delivering the baby, but it's still a really dumb move on Carver's part to break Carlos' fingers out of all the other ways he could have hurt him.

    Then again, Carlos did get his medical degree from a 25 cent gumball machine. Probably from a Bazooka wrapper.

    skoothz posted: »

    I have a lot of mixed feelings about the beginning of episode one. Everything feels very abrupt. I feel like they put Christa's pregnancy in

  • You make a really great point. I would like to see this situation being used as a way for Clem to come to terms with what happened to Christa, specifically with her baby. Especially if (god forbid) we don't get closure with Christa herself.

    Night_Owl posted: »

    This is my belief as well. It's also why I think the baby will die one way or the other. The way I see it, between Omid's death and whatever

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    I'm very intrigued to see how Telltale use a baby character module. Never seen it being used before.

    God I hope Rebecca survives. I've just started taking a liking to her and we all know what happens to most characters we take a liking to :(

  • exactly, maby we wont see it exactly that way but it DID happen. so maby clem is gana have to deliver the baby in the pic, maby it wont happen in that room or so but we might have to deliver it...

    Well, S2E2's was just Johnny and Troy tracking the Cabin group. Which did happen.

  • maybe that why they made carver break his fingers... so clem would have to do it...

    skeletori posted: »

    I kinda thought too that Clem might help Carlos deliver the baby, but that made me question why Carver crippled and threaten to kill Carlos

  • maby clem will have to do it but the camera will be at an angle so we dont see anything... it would suck though for clem to have to deliver it

    skeletori posted: »

    You make a really great point. I would like to see this situation being used as a way for Clem to come to terms with what happened to Christa, specifically with her baby. Especially if (god forbid) we don't get closure with Christa herself.

  • they could possibly get trapped like in twd show, were they have no choice but to do it.

    in the show carl was trapped with his mom and maggie so they had to do it there, BECAUSE there were walker everywere and they were trapped.
    carol was going to do it originally but wasnt there, something like this could happen in the game

    Well, just a guess, but looking at the trailer, walkers might be knocking down his walls as it happens. Wouldn't be the first time in the TWDverse a baby decided to come out while shit was hitting the fan.

  • i saw these files i dont know if there real though, it said: Rebecca bloody towel

    Nah. don't think TT made Crista just as a plot device. They probably weren't even thinking about season 2 at the time as they didn't know ho

  • i think they were alone though, she was almost due and what mother would trust a stanger to deliver her baby?

    Yes_Man posted: »

    I don't think so. Christa's pregnancy was hinted at pretty heavily during Season 1. I don't think during Episode 3 when Omid and Christa fir

  • oh shit i remember that! wow you people are on to something

    I'm fairly sure that could've happened with Christa, as Clem says "Just like Christa taught me" as she stitches her arm.

  • she might loose it

    That_1_Guy posted: »

    This thread suddenly made me think of something: What if Christa finds the group and she sees the baby? Will she go out of her mind when con

  • I don't think they'll have Clem deliver Rebecca's baby. She might help though.

    I'm sure Christa's pregnancy will play a role in the plot. Maybe Rebecca will die and Christa will take care of her baby. Or maybe Christa will go nuts and try to steal her baby.

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