Okay, okay, I get it, it was a bad joke. I didn't even really mean it. I was just trying to rouse up the Cluke fans like Cluke4Ever up there. I wasn't thinking, alright? So quit ganging up on me like that!
God, would you just drop it? I didn't mean it like that, okay? Like I wrote above in reply to JustSomeGuy-, I was thinking of Clem and Luke as two partners working together, which kinda felt similar to Clem and Lee, hence I made a stupid connection with them and wrote the whole Clee post above. I wasn't thinking about the context that my post would appear in when I wrote that stupid thing.
So just please drop it, alright? I've had enough of argument for one day with SaltLick305 and I really don't want to get into another one. God, and I just came to this forum, too. Didn't expect to start this much shit in less than a week.
I used to agree with that statement before tonight. Before tonight, I hadn't heard of... Clee... I just... who could imagine such an abomina… moretion...? Cluke is one thing, but this other ship simply crosses the line. Many times over. Cluke crosses the line once or twice. Clee? At least 1,239,546 times. I can at least take comfort in the unpopularity of it... but its mere existence is enough to make me wonder what's wrong with humanity.
If that's all these characters mean to you, then why are you even going on about shipping? Shipping means wanting 2 characters to be in a relationship, no matter if they are real or not. As long as you want those 2 to be in a relationship, that makes them as real as you or me or anyone else. I am trying to respect your opinion, but Clementine's character is 11 years old. Luke's is about early or late 20s. You do not see children make out with adults on the street, do you? Because it's controversial. Because, if you ship them, if you REALLY ship them, then that means they have to reciprocate these feelings. Which would make Luke a pedophile. Which makes things UNHOLY. Honestly, i cannot possibly imagine Luke and Clementine ever engage in a romantic relationship, and i don't see how others can. If you truly believe in this ship of yours, then i'm sorry. But i don't think you believe in this ship, since Clementine and Luke are nothing but a bunch of pixels to you. I think you are just taking 2 random characters you ship to get some attention, and just don't give a shit about them. Well, some people DO care. Most people care. And since they care, they make the characters REAL. You honestly don't care, do you? Yeah. And just because you ship something so badly doesn't give you the right to scream it on EVERY GODDAMN THREAD you enter. Sometimes, you just have to keep it to yourself, because you will get hated for it. I know you "don't care", but you HAVE to care. Any human being cares. I know i am being a little hypocritical, and i am really sorry for acting the way i did earlier, but i just want to help you. I understand that, maybe, we have different ways of seeing things. That's okay. But i think it would just be better if you chilled out a little. Personally, i don't find Scott Porter hot. Yeah, i said it. I don't. That's okay. I understand that you may think otherwise. That's okay, too. But imposing your opinion is definitely not okay. This isn't a demand. It's just some advice. I have realized the way i have acted before was wrong, and, looking through the forums, i realized that you've been through some tough comments here. I only want you to not have to go through those again. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. But if you're only a simple-minded troll, then i guess there's really no way for me to help you or the forums.
I think it's adorable too. I bet Clem wouldn't mind spending the rest of her life with Luke!
And just so you know, she's not real. Like i… moret or not, Clementine is a bunch of pixels and people should stop treating her like she's their daughter or something. It's getting weird seeing people stress over something so trivial as shipping two fictional characters.
God, would you just drop it? I didn't mean it like that, okay? Like I wrote above in reply to JustSomeGuy-, I was thinking of Clem and Luke … moreas two partners working together, which kinda felt similar to Clem and Lee, hence I made a stupid connection with them and wrote the whole Clee post above. I wasn't thinking about the context that my post would appear in when I wrote that stupid thing.
So just please drop it, alright? I've had enough of argument for one day with SaltLick305 and I really don't want to get into another one. God, and I just came to this forum, too. Didn't expect to start this much shit in less than a week.
Lizzie x Lee in walker form x Bigby in full wolf form x Optimus prime x Hershel x Crane x an aborted fetus x my phone x a photo of Clem x Baby judith after getting her head smashed in by Lucille x Dead sam x Pete. Let's make it happen!
"Lee was like a father to her! That'd be gross! It's only okay if she gets with the person who's like a brother to her, because that's COMPLETELY different!"
Okay, okay, I get it, it was a bad joke. I didn't even really mean it. I was just trying to rouse up the Cluke fans like Cluke4Ever up there. I wasn't thinking, alright? So quit ganging up on me like that!
"Lee was like a father to her! That'd be gross! It's only okay if she gets with the person who's like a brother to her, because that's COMPLETELY different!"
That about sum it up?
In this world,its illegal,but in their's?hell,may as well call it "grabbing a person and fuckin them and leaving them for the dead to feast on" instead of rape.shooting someone there isn't murder,its survival.its not stealing(unless its from bandits),its looting.we know its wrong,but whaddaya expect?we're just lucky Clem didn't get gang raped in the first 5 or 10 minutes of the game and that Clem isn't a Clement and Luke isn't a Lara...or that Luke isn't a 14 or 13 yo boy.anyway,its still,l wrong,but it depends on the universe:war torn world=legal rape,overpopulation = legal rape,etc.
In this world,its illegal,but in their's?hell,may as well call it "grabbing a person and fuckin them and leaving them for the dead to feast … moreon" instead of rape.shooting someone there isn't murder,its survival.its not stealing(unless its from bandits),its looting.we know its wrong,but whaddaya expect?we're just lucky Clem didn't get gang raped in the first 5 or 10 minutes of the game and that Clem isn't a Clement and Luke isn't a Lara...or that Luke isn't a 14 or 13 yo boy.anyway,its still,l wrong,but it depends on the universe:war torn world=legal rape,overpopulation = legal rape,etc.
Okay, okay, I get it, it was a bad joke. I didn't even really mean it. I was just trying to rouse up the Cluke fans like Cluke4Ever up there. I wasn't thinking, alright? So quit ganging up on me like that!
Lee and Carley.
Alvin and Rebecca, and to an extent Carver and Rebecca.
Kenny and Katjaa.
Kenny and Sarita.
Bonnie and Leland.
Omid and Christa.
Some relationships have started before the Apocalypse broke out and held strong. Others like Bonnie and Leland or Kenny and Sarita started during the middle of the Apocalypse. It's not impossible.
I don't advocate teenagers dating adults, but once they're adults they make their own decisions, and they decide if age is a barrier or not. 16 isn't exactly adult. However given they're in a world full of man-eating zombies and a food supply that's running out, some people might consider age as unimportant in general because they're living at the 'end of days'.
I don't understand...Cluke4Life, you are supporting some guy in his mid twenties, who is like family, having sex with an eleven year old girl. DO YOU EVEN SEE WHAT YOU ARE TYPING?!
I wouldn't be too bothered by Cluke when Clem's an adult, since age gaps don't matter too much when you're both growns up [between my own parents, there's at least over a ten year age gap] but even then, I just can't see it.
For what it is in the game, I'd rather Clementine and Luke remained brother and sister to each other even into adulthood, because I love the platonic/sibling thing that's going on with them and I don't want anything to ruin that. If Lee can step in to be a father for Clem, then Luke can step in to be a big bro for her too.
As for a romance/love story between a child and a grown man? I'll spell it out for you in three words: No thank you >_<
Lee and Carley never actually dated. Alvin and Rebecca were together before shit hit the fan. I don't believe an affair counts as dating, for Carver and Rebecca. Kenny and Katjaa were together before shit hit the fan. Kenny and Sarita is the only one that could actually be used, all other relationships shouldn't be considered dating in the apocalypse. Bonnie and Leland were getting real flirty, but they never really tried something, and besides, look how that turned out, Leland abandons Bonnie. Omid and Christa were together before shit hit the fan. It may not be impossible, but look how many relationships you just stated end up real badly. Why the hell are you guys talking about some weird-ass matchmaking before Clem is of a decent age to date someone over the age of 18, anyway? Why can't we all just be happy that Clementine is a well developed character with friends, and leave at that? No, we've got to have some people want to create drama.
Lee and Carley.
Alvin and Rebecca, and to an extent Carver and Rebecca.
Kenny and Katjaa.
Kenny and Sarita.
Bonnie and Leland.
Omid an… mored Christa.
Some relationships have started before the Apocalypse broke out and held strong. Others like Bonnie and Leland or Kenny and Sarita started during the middle of the Apocalypse. It's not impossible.
I don't advocate teenagers dating adults, but once they're adults they make their own decisions, and they decide if age is a barrier or not. 16 isn't exactly adult. However given they're in a world full of man-eating zombies and a food supply that's running out, some people might consider age as unimportant in general because they're living at the 'end of days'.
I kinda of think Luke might be a pedophile, though like cannibal carl said I don't support Cluke. Cluke is wrong, disgusting, and weird. But, for example when I first played episode 2 and Clem was going on the bridge with Luke I was like "oh no! Don't rape Clem". I just think it's weird that he keeps going of alone with Clem, why couldn't he bring Alvin, or Carlos. I don't know, I'm just getting a weird vibe. Also the creepy smile right after they took care of the two zombies, also his face when Clem didn't sit with them. Why would he be upset she sat with a guy that she missed, and hadn't seen in years. Also Kenny is one of the only people left that knew Lee.
(?) Clayton_Boylan has got mad respect for your opinion. We can't go around accusing people of pedophilia, or the situation will escalate, we've just got to wait and see.
In this world,its illegal,but in their's?hell,may as well call it "grabbing a person and fuckin them and leaving them for the dead to feast … moreon" instead of rape.shooting someone there isn't murder,its survival.its not stealing(unless its from bandits),its looting.we know its wrong,but whaddaya expect?we're just lucky Clem didn't get gang raped in the first 5 or 10 minutes of the game and that Clem isn't a Clement and Luke isn't a Lara...or that Luke isn't a 14 or 13 yo boy.anyway,its still,l wrong,but it depends on the universe:war torn world=legal rape,overpopulation = legal rape,etc.
It seems like people create a lot of unnecessary fantasies about Clementine and Luke, what the fuck? We are talking about guardians of Clem (Lee, Kenny, Luke) and not sex partners? still wtf..
Me? I have had a lot of arguments against cluke4life, the post you replied to was me being a smart ass at cluke4life's expense. I am certainly not supporting an 11 year old girl having sex with a man in his mid 20s. And if you are aiming that at cluke4life aim it further away from me, it's making me uncomfortable.
I don't understand...Cluke4Life, you are supporting some guy in his mid twenties, who is like family, having sex with an eleven year old girl. DO YOU EVEN SEE WHAT YOU ARE TYPING?!
Relationships have happened, or have stayed strong while Zombies attacked. This is the point of the matter. If they can have loving relationships, it's not impossible for someone to nurture a relationship.
Not saying it's smart, or even good considering how often people die. But wishing Clementine happiness isn't bad, especially when she's old enough to have these sorts of relationships.
I'm just interested and concerned about age in this situation because it's a Zombie Apocalypse situation. How many children are going to live long enough to become 'adults' with monsters everywhere? Will humanity even last that long? Is life worth living if this is all they have to look forward to? People in ancient history considered children as adults at younger ages, and this was because of mortality rates back then, so is it right to apply the same logic now?
It's a sensitive topic and rightly so. My first example was Clem being 20 for crying out loud. But if I was in a ZA situation, it wouldn't surprise me to see things like teenagers dating adults.
Lee and Carley never actually dated. Alvin and Rebecca were together before shit hit the fan. I don't believe an affair counts as dating, fo… morer Carver and Rebecca. Kenny and Katjaa were together before shit hit the fan. Kenny and Sarita is the only one that could actually be used, all other relationships shouldn't be considered dating in the apocalypse. Bonnie and Leland were getting real flirty, but they never really tried something, and besides, look how that turned out, Leland abandons Bonnie. Omid and Christa were together before shit hit the fan. It may not be impossible, but look how many relationships you just stated end up real badly. Why the hell are you guys talking about some weird-ass matchmaking before Clem is of a decent age to date someone over the age of 18, anyway? Why can't we all just be happy that Clementine is a well developed character with friends, and leave at that? No, we've got to have some people want to create drama.
I find it funny that people still talk about things like dating in a ZA. If Clem even manages to reach that age, what the fuck is she gonna do with her potential partner? Have a picnic?
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Okay, okay, I get it, it was a bad joke. I didn't even really mean it. I was just trying to rouse up the Cluke fans like Cluke4Ever up there. I wasn't thinking, alright? So quit ganging up on me like that!
What's the best shipping name for Clem/Vernon? I'm joking btw, I just tried imagining the worst possible pair of people to fuck.
Vernontine? Clemnon? Can of spoiled clem-chowder that shouldn't have been opened...?
Vernentine
God, would you just drop it? I didn't mean it like that, okay? Like I wrote above in reply to JustSomeGuy-, I was thinking of Clem and Luke as two partners working together, which kinda felt similar to Clem and Lee, hence I made a stupid connection with them and wrote the whole Clee post above. I wasn't thinking about the context that my post would appear in when I wrote that stupid thing.
So just please drop it, alright? I've had enough of argument for one day with SaltLick305 and I really don't want to get into another one. God, and I just came to this forum, too. Didn't expect to start this much shit in less than a week.
One word describes everything about shipping a kid with whoever it is.... FUBAR
I'd agree... because I'm not like that. Not like I was supporting Clee or anything. Like I've explained above, it was a misunderstanding.
What the fuck is wrong with you, Rigtail?
This just keeps getting bigger and bigger by the minute.
If that's all these characters mean to you, then why are you even going on about shipping? Shipping means wanting 2 characters to be in a relationship, no matter if they are real or not. As long as you want those 2 to be in a relationship, that makes them as real as you or me or anyone else. I am trying to respect your opinion, but Clementine's character is 11 years old. Luke's is about early or late 20s. You do not see children make out with adults on the street, do you? Because it's controversial. Because, if you ship them, if you REALLY ship them, then that means they have to reciprocate these feelings. Which would make Luke a pedophile. Which makes things UNHOLY. Honestly, i cannot possibly imagine Luke and Clementine ever engage in a romantic relationship, and i don't see how others can. If you truly believe in this ship of yours, then i'm sorry. But i don't think you believe in this ship, since Clementine and Luke are nothing but a bunch of pixels to you. I think you are just taking 2 random characters you ship to get some attention, and just don't give a shit about them. Well, some people DO care. Most people care. And since they care, they make the characters REAL. You honestly don't care, do you? Yeah. And just because you ship something so badly doesn't give you the right to scream it on EVERY GODDAMN THREAD you enter. Sometimes, you just have to keep it to yourself, because you will get hated for it. I know you "don't care", but you HAVE to care. Any human being cares. I know i am being a little hypocritical, and i am really sorry for acting the way i did earlier, but i just want to help you. I understand that, maybe, we have different ways of seeing things. That's okay. But i think it would just be better if you chilled out a little. Personally, i don't find Scott Porter hot. Yeah, i said it. I don't. That's okay. I understand that you may think otherwise. That's okay, too. But imposing your opinion is definitely not okay. This isn't a demand. It's just some advice. I have realized the way i have acted before was wrong, and, looking through the forums, i realized that you've been through some tough comments here. I only want you to not have to go through those again. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. But if you're only a simple-minded troll, then i guess there's really no way for me to help you or the forums.
So yeah. I want to apologize.
It gets BIGGER! Let's make it... um... Sam x Christa's dead baby
God, that stupid thumb-down system freaking annoys me. Thumb down for what? For trying to explain myself? That it was a misunderstanding?
What about a lemon and a clementine! (Theres a fruit called Clementine so don't hate on meh!
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Then it's gonna be called Lemontine
RomanxDuck->Duckman
Lizzie x Lee in walker form x Bigby in full wolf form x Optimus prime x Hershel x Crane x an aborted fetus x my phone x a photo of Clem x Baby judith after getting her head smashed in by Lucille x Dead sam x Pete. Let's make it happen!
"Lee was like a father to her! That'd be gross! It's only okay if she gets with the person who's like a brother to her, because that's COMPLETELY different!"
That about sum it up?
You are what is wrong with humanity, shallow, ignorant, greedy, no concept of right and wrong. You are a terrible human being.
I know your kidding, i'm just having a bit of fun
You have to understand that Cluke4Life lives in the deep south where marrying your brother and sister is expected.
In this world,its illegal,but in their's?hell,may as well call it "grabbing a person and fuckin them and leaving them for the dead to feast on" instead of rape.shooting someone there isn't murder,its survival.its not stealing(unless its from bandits),its looting.we know its wrong,but whaddaya expect?we're just lucky Clem didn't get gang raped in the first 5 or 10 minutes of the game and that Clem isn't a Clement and Luke isn't a Lara...or that Luke isn't a 14 or 13 yo boy.anyway,its still,l wrong,but it depends on the universe:war torn world=legal rape,overpopulation = legal rape,etc.
Nothing is illegal in the ZA, you could get away with so much
We have to stand together to destroy Cluke, once and for all!
Perfect for her? She's a child, you fanatical zealot!
I'm sorry, but I agree with @dqtl74 BOOOOO!
Lee and Carley.
Alvin and Rebecca, and to an extent Carver and Rebecca.
Kenny and Katjaa.
Kenny and Sarita.
Bonnie and Leland.
Omid and Christa.
Some relationships have started before the Apocalypse broke out and held strong. Others like Bonnie and Leland or Kenny and Sarita started during the middle of the Apocalypse. It's not impossible.
I don't advocate teenagers dating adults, but once they're adults they make their own decisions, and they decide if age is a barrier or not. 16 isn't exactly adult. However given they're in a world full of man-eating zombies and a food supply that's running out, some people might consider age as unimportant in general because they're living at the 'end of days'.
I don't understand...Cluke4Life, you are supporting some guy in his mid twenties, who is like family, having sex with an eleven year old girl. DO YOU EVEN SEE WHAT YOU ARE TYPING?!
I couldn't agree with you more. It's SNAFU.
I wouldn't be too bothered by Cluke when Clem's an adult, since age gaps don't matter too much when you're both growns up [between my own parents, there's at least over a ten year age gap] but even then, I just can't see it.
For what it is in the game, I'd rather Clementine and Luke remained brother and sister to each other even into adulthood, because I love the platonic/sibling thing that's going on with them and I don't want anything to ruin that. If Lee can step in to be a father for Clem, then Luke can step in to be a big bro for her too.
As for a romance/love story between a child and a grown man? I'll spell it out for you in three words: No thank you >_<
Damn you, Shaundi. We must hunt down this Shaundi! Kill Cluke at it's core!
Lee and Carley never actually dated. Alvin and Rebecca were together before shit hit the fan. I don't believe an affair counts as dating, for Carver and Rebecca. Kenny and Katjaa were together before shit hit the fan. Kenny and Sarita is the only one that could actually be used, all other relationships shouldn't be considered dating in the apocalypse. Bonnie and Leland were getting real flirty, but they never really tried something, and besides, look how that turned out, Leland abandons Bonnie. Omid and Christa were together before shit hit the fan. It may not be impossible, but look how many relationships you just stated end up real badly. Why the hell are you guys talking about some weird-ass matchmaking before Clem is of a decent age to date someone over the age of 18, anyway? Why can't we all just be happy that Clementine is a well developed character with friends, and leave at that? No, we've got to have some people want to create drama.
Exactly!
(?) Clayton_Boylan's got mad respect for your opinion.
I also like SNAFU (Situation Normal: All Fucked Up).
I kinda of think Luke might be a pedophile, though like cannibal carl said I don't support Cluke. Cluke is wrong, disgusting, and weird. But, for example when I first played episode 2 and Clem was going on the bridge with Luke I was like "oh no! Don't rape Clem". I just think it's weird that he keeps going of alone with Clem, why couldn't he bring Alvin, or Carlos. I don't know, I'm just getting a weird vibe. Also the creepy smile right after they took care of the two zombies, also his face when Clem didn't sit with them. Why would he be upset she sat with a guy that she missed, and hadn't seen in years. Also Kenny is one of the only people left that knew Lee.
Yeah, but what happens to you? You become a monster. Just because the world goes to shit, that doesn't give you any right to go with it.
That wasn't a misunderstanding, you made a mistake and that was inventing the word Clee :P
It seems like people create a lot of unnecessary fantasies about Clementine and Luke, what the fuck? We are talking about guardians of Clem (Lee, Kenny, Luke) and not sex partners? still wtf..
Me? I have had a lot of arguments against cluke4life, the post you replied to was me being a smart ass at cluke4life's expense. I am certainly not supporting an 11 year old girl having sex with a man in his mid 20s. And if you are aiming that at cluke4life aim it further away from me, it's making me uncomfortable.
Relationships have happened, or have stayed strong while Zombies attacked. This is the point of the matter. If they can have loving relationships, it's not impossible for someone to nurture a relationship.
Not saying it's smart, or even good considering how often people die. But wishing Clementine happiness isn't bad, especially when she's old enough to have these sorts of relationships.
I'm just interested and concerned about age in this situation because it's a Zombie Apocalypse situation. How many children are going to live long enough to become 'adults' with monsters everywhere? Will humanity even last that long? Is life worth living if this is all they have to look forward to? People in ancient history considered children as adults at younger ages, and this was because of mortality rates back then, so is it right to apply the same logic now?
It's a sensitive topic and rightly so. My first example was Clem being 20 for crying out loud. But if I was in a ZA situation, it wouldn't surprise me to see things like teenagers dating adults.
Rights are subjective. It's only that nowadays limits your rights in order to create a equal system.
I find it funny that people still talk about things like dating in a ZA. If Clem even manages to reach that age, what the fuck is she gonna do with her potential partner? Have a picnic?