It doesn't matter if plenty of people see finishing Larry off as murder. That doesn't make the stance correct.
You're just assuming the cabin group thought Clem was going to reanimate. Seriously, there is nothing to base that argument on. And either way, it remains an apples to oranges comparison as the context is completely different.
I've given plenty of reasons why both are perfect examples.
Doesn't change the fact that killing Larry like that was just murder. Plenty… more of people see it that way, and it's certainly a perfect reason not to want to go with him.
Yes, the cabin group did expect Clementine to reanimate-they thought she was bitten and had been through someone bitten suddenly reanimating and attacking.
I'm not assuming anything. They think she's been bitten. She's unconscious. Bitten people reanimate. That's what happened the last time. It still doesn't make the situations as different as you claim.
No you haven't. Not to me at least.
It doesn't matter if plenty of people see finishing Larry off as murder. That doesn't make the stance… more correct.
You're just assuming the cabin group thought Clem was going to reanimate. Seriously, there is nothing to base that argument on. And either way, it remains an apples to oranges comparison as the context is completely different.
I honestly can't choose, you know I'd choose Nick but I don't want another soul to die especially Kenny, I can't take another death, even Carvers group
Well, Kenny is one of the people I trust the most, simply because he was with the original group and doesn't seem to have any dark secrets like the cabin group might have, according to Carver at least.
Although I am still mad at Kenny for not going with me to save Clem in season 1, Clementine doesn't know so I don't hold a grudge. ; )
If you have explained yourself, then could you do so again? Copy and paste if you want. You have never once countered my arguments explaining why your examples do not make sense.
You're assuming that the group thought she was dead. You have no clue that they thought she was going to reanimate. You're simply guessing that they did. Go back and listen to their conversation, they did not say anything about Clem reanimating. They were talking about Clem as if she were alive.
The context of the situations are 100% different. You can't compare the two.
I certainly have in this topic.
Doesn't make the stance wrong, either.
I'm not assuming anything. They think she's been bitten. She'… mores unconscious. Bitten people reanimate. That's what happened the last time. It still doesn't make the situations as different as you claim.
First of all, this choice will never happen because Nick is already dead in many playthoughs (including my playthough).
Secondly, there i… mores no reason at all to choose Nick in this situation. I know some people on this forum seem to like Nick alot and i'm okay with that, but letting Kenny die to save Nick's live is just idiotic. Even if you don't like Kenny, it's still the most logical thing to save him. Nick is in fact " Becoming a danger to the group ", he nearly killed Clementine the first time they met and he killed Mathew aka the nicest person on planet earth because he was stupid. Kenny on the other hand was always there to help the people he cared about and even if you didn't side with him in Season1 and he didn't come with you, searching for Clementine (which is very unlikely, since you just have to tell him that she is like family to you) he still redempt himself in episode5, by saving Christa's live or by trying to save that fuckin… [view original content]
Or you could read through the topic? And no, the situations are not that different. The group believed she was bitten. When you're bitten, they know you can die and reanimate at any time. She's laying there unconscious. The very fact that Nick shot at her shows he thought she was coming back as a walker.
If you have explained yourself, then could you do so again? Copy and paste if you want. You have never once countered my arguments explainin… moreg why your examples do not make sense.
You're assuming that the group thought she was dead. You have no clue that they thought she was going to reanimate. You're simply guessing that they did. Go back and listen to their conversation, they did not say anything about Clem reanimating. They were talking about Clem as if she were alive.
The context of the situations are 100% different. You can't compare the two.
Yes, because copying and pasting what you said would be so terribly difficult. Please, don't put yourself out or anything. Looking through the topic, you never gave any counter arguments
The fact that everyone was like "WTF Nick" after he shot at Clem shows that clearly no one was on the same page. I'll say once again, if you actually listen to the conversation, they do not say ANYTHING about Clem reanimating. They talk about her as if she was alive. They don't even know if she was bitten by a walker or not. Again, your opinion is COMPLETELY based on your own assumptions, and is not backed up by what we actually see/hear from the cabin group.
No matter how you try and twist this, the context of the two situations are unarguably not the same.
Or you could read through the topic? And no, the situations are not that different. The group believed she was bitten. When you're bitten… more, they know you can die and reanimate at any time. She's laying there unconscious. The very fact that Nick shot at her shows he thought she was coming back as a walker.
I'm in kind of a stuck situation because 1) Kenny and Lee were friends in my playthrough, 2) I promised Uncle Pete to look out for Nick and I plan on trying to keep that promise, 3) They are genuinely good guys deep deep down underneath (I've seen more of Kenny's good side and I trust him, at least), 4) They are both hanging off the brink, with only a few things keeping them afloat. Kenny relies more heavily on Sarita and Clem to keep him sane. Nick's last anchor is probably Luke. So idk. Gut instinct is Kenny.
If you can't be civil, then don't say anything. Even more so if you're going to lie.
They reacted that way because he suddenly fired off his gun. I'm not assuming anything-it's pretty obvious. And the context of the two situations are definitely similar.
Yes, because copying and pasting what you said would be so terribly difficult. Please, don't put yourself out or anything. Looking through t… morehe topic, you never gave any counter arguments
The fact that everyone was like "WTF Nick" after he shot at Clem shows that clearly no one was on the same page. I'll say once again, if you actually listen to the conversation, they do not say ANYTHING about Clem reanimating. They talk about her as if she was alive. They don't even know if she was bitten by a walker or not. Again, your opinion is COMPLETELY based on your own assumptions, and is not backed up by what we actually see/hear from the cabin group.
No matter how you try and twist this, the context of the two situations are unarguably not the same.
First of all, this choice will never happen because Nick is already dead in many playthoughs (including my playthough).
Secondly, there i… mores no reason at all to choose Nick in this situation. I know some people on this forum seem to like Nick alot and i'm okay with that, but letting Kenny die to save Nick's live is just idiotic. Even if you don't like Kenny, it's still the most logical thing to save him. Nick is in fact " Becoming a danger to the group ", he nearly killed Clementine the first time they met and he killed Mathew aka the nicest person on planet earth because he was stupid. Kenny on the other hand was always there to help the people he cared about and even if you didn't side with him in Season1 and he didn't come with you, searching for Clementine (which is very unlikely, since you just have to tell him that she is like family to you) he still redempt himself in episode5, by saving Christa's live or by trying to save that fuckin… [view original content]
What am I lying about? You never gave me a response (both times I brought it up). If you did, you would have shown me already. Again, if I'm mistaken here, simply restate your argument or copy and paste what you had said before. It's really not that hard.
Are you reading a single word that I am saying? I'm not going to continue to argue with you when you'll only believe what you want to believe. You won't even address my counter arguments. You just keep stating your same opinion over and over and over again without having anything to back it up, while also basically completely ignoring opposing evidence/ arguments.
The context of the two situations are unquestionably different. In the meat locker, the group was trapped in a small room with a dead guy who could have reanimated within mere minutes, while having essentially no weapons or means of protecting themselves. If Larry reanimated on them, they would have been in grave danger. The group was presented with very few options, and they had a very short amount of time to make a decision. In the cabin group situation, the group would not have been in grave danger if Clem SOMEHOW had reanimated on them. They were outside with plenty of space. They had firearms/ other weapons. Clem was unconscious, but she was not dead. She was breathing, and had a pulse. Big difference. Judging from what the group was talking about before Clem regained consciousness, they without a doubt thought she was alive. The group didn't even know if she was bitten by a walker or not. If they thought Clem was such an immediate threat why on earth would they be standing practically right on top of her? The context of these two situations are not the same. It's okay to admit you're wrong on something dude, no need to be so stubborn. Totally defeats the purpose of meaningful discussion.
If you can't be civil, then don't say anything. Even more so if you're going to lie.
They reacted that way because he suddenly fired off… more his gun. I'm not assuming anything-it's pretty obvious. And the context of the two situations are definitely similar.
What am I lying about? You never gave me a response (both times I brought it up). If you did, you would have shown me already. Again, if I'm… more mistaken here, simply restate your argument or copy and paste what you had said before. It's really not that hard.
Are you reading a single word that I am saying? I'm not going to continue to argue with you when you'll only believe what you want to believe. You won't even address my counter arguments. You just keep stating your same opinion over and over and over again without having anything to back it up, while also basically completely ignoring opposing evidence/ arguments.
The context of the two situations are unquestionably different. In the meat locker, the group was trapped in a small room with a dead guy who could have reanimated within mere minutes, while having essentially no weapons or means of protecting themselves. If Larry reanimated on them, they would have been in grave danger. The … [view original content]
What am I lying about? You never gave me a response (both times I brought it up). If you did, you would have shown me already. Again, if I'm… more mistaken here, simply restate your argument or copy and paste what you had said before. It's really not that hard.
Are you reading a single word that I am saying? I'm not going to continue to argue with you when you'll only believe what you want to believe. You won't even address my counter arguments. You just keep stating your same opinion over and over and over again without having anything to back it up, while also basically completely ignoring opposing evidence/ arguments.
The context of the two situations are unquestionably different. In the meat locker, the group was trapped in a small room with a dead guy who could have reanimated within mere minutes, while having essentially no weapons or means of protecting themselves. If Larry reanimated on them, they would have been in grave danger. The … [view original content]
You continue to completely ignore the arguments I give you. You have no idea how frustrating that is. You're dismissing my posts as "lying" while not explaining yourself at all. There is no point in anyone discussing anything with you. You're crazy stubborn and will only believe what you want to believe, no matter what anyone else says or does.
Even though I'm loyal to Kenny, I'd have to pick Nick. I promised Pete I'd look after him, and if I can help him think for a moment before pulling the trigger, that would be great. Lee and Kenny were BFF's in my playthrough... not Clem and Kenny, even though he is a favourite I wouldn't prioritise him.
Since I went with Nick and not Pete in All That Remains, I didn't have to promise anything.
I did however tell Omid and Christa that I wanted Kenny to look after her, so I'd probably go for Kenny. My Lee and him were best buds in S1, and I think he would be the perfect guardian for Clem right now because he considered my Lee and Clem family in S1 EP4. ("You and Clementine are the only family I got left, I'm with ya, to the end.") and we all know what drastic measures Kenny will take to protect people he considers family.
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No you haven't. Not to me at least.
It doesn't matter if plenty of people see finishing Larry off as murder. That doesn't make the stance correct.
You're just assuming the cabin group thought Clem was going to reanimate. Seriously, there is nothing to base that argument on. And either way, it remains an apples to oranges comparison as the context is completely different.
So therefore it doesn't exist? That's honestly terrible logic... if that's what you're implying.
That's not what I said.
I certainly have in this topic.
Doesn't make the stance wrong, either.
I'm not assuming anything. They think she's been bitten. She's unconscious. Bitten people reanimate. That's what happened the last time. It still doesn't make the situations as different as you claim.
I would probably choose Nick, he still needs to redeem himself and helping him just might do so.
Sorry Ken
I honestly can't choose, you know I'd choose Nick but I don't want another soul to die especially Kenny, I can't take another death, even Carvers group
Yeah it cares nothing for what you want either
There's a reason I don't want to make a choice like this (ep 2 the seats and even then I barely picked who I sat with)
Well, Kenny is one of the people I trust the most, simply because he was with the original group and doesn't seem to have any dark secrets like the cabin group might have, according to Carver at least.
Although I am still mad at Kenny for not going with me to save Clem in season 1, Clementine doesn't know so I don't hold a grudge. ; )
I follow Nick as Kenny Doe's not have know Carvers compound very well
If you have explained yourself, then could you do so again? Copy and paste if you want. You have never once countered my arguments explaining why your examples do not make sense.
You're assuming that the group thought she was dead. You have no clue that they thought she was going to reanimate. You're simply guessing that they did. Go back and listen to their conversation, they did not say anything about Clem reanimating. They were talking about Clem as if she were alive.
The context of the situations are 100% different. You can't compare the two.
Don't base everything off of first impressions.
Or you could read through the topic? And no, the situations are not that different. The group believed she was bitten. When you're bitten, they know you can die and reanimate at any time. She's laying there unconscious. The very fact that Nick shot at her shows he thought she was coming back as a walker.
What are you talking about?
Yes, because copying and pasting what you said would be so terribly difficult. Please, don't put yourself out or anything. Looking through the topic, you never gave any counter arguments
The fact that everyone was like "WTF Nick" after he shot at Clem shows that clearly no one was on the same page. I'll say once again, if you actually listen to the conversation, they do not say ANYTHING about Clem reanimating. They talk about her as if she was alive. They don't even know if she was bitten by a walker or not. Again, your opinion is COMPLETELY based on your own assumptions, and is not backed up by what we actually see/hear from the cabin group.
No matter how you try and twist this, the context of the two situations are unarguably not the same.
I'm in kind of a stuck situation because 1) Kenny and Lee were friends in my playthrough, 2) I promised Uncle Pete to look out for Nick and I plan on trying to keep that promise, 3) They are genuinely good guys deep deep down underneath (I've seen more of Kenny's good side and I trust him, at least), 4) They are both hanging off the brink, with only a few things keeping them afloat. Kenny relies more heavily on Sarita and Clem to keep him sane. Nick's last anchor is probably Luke. So idk. Gut instinct is Kenny.
I would side with Nick cause im not really liking Kenny this season but it would depend on the situation too
If you can't be civil, then don't say anything. Even more so if you're going to lie.
They reacted that way because he suddenly fired off his gun. I'm not assuming anything-it's pretty obvious. And the context of the two situations are definitely similar.
HOW COULD YOU?!
What am I lying about? You never gave me a response (both times I brought it up). If you did, you would have shown me already. Again, if I'm mistaken here, simply restate your argument or copy and paste what you had said before. It's really not that hard.
Are you reading a single word that I am saying? I'm not going to continue to argue with you when you'll only believe what you want to believe. You won't even address my counter arguments. You just keep stating your same opinion over and over and over again without having anything to back it up, while also basically completely ignoring opposing evidence/ arguments.
The context of the two situations are unquestionably different. In the meat locker, the group was trapped in a small room with a dead guy who could have reanimated within mere minutes, while having essentially no weapons or means of protecting themselves. If Larry reanimated on them, they would have been in grave danger. The group was presented with very few options, and they had a very short amount of time to make a decision. In the cabin group situation, the group would not have been in grave danger if Clem SOMEHOW had reanimated on them. They were outside with plenty of space. They had firearms/ other weapons. Clem was unconscious, but she was not dead. She was breathing, and had a pulse. Big difference. Judging from what the group was talking about before Clem regained consciousness, they without a doubt thought she was alive. The group didn't even know if she was bitten by a walker or not. If they thought Clem was such an immediate threat why on earth would they be standing practically right on top of her? The context of these two situations are not the same. It's okay to admit you're wrong on something dude, no need to be so stubborn. Totally defeats the purpose of meaningful discussion.
Maybe you should leave. You're being very rude, and it's bringing the whole topic down. Plus, it's impossible to have a discussion if you keep lying.
Maybe you should leave. You're being very rude, and it's bringing the whole topic down. Plus, it's impossible to have a discussion if you keep lying.
You continue to completely ignore the arguments I give you. You have no idea how frustrating that is. You're dismissing my posts as "lying" while not explaining yourself at all. There is no point in anyone discussing anything with you. You're crazy stubborn and will only believe what you want to believe, no matter what anyone else says or does.
Even though I'm loyal to Kenny, I'd have to pick Nick. I promised Pete I'd look after him, and if I can help him think for a moment before pulling the trigger, that would be great. Lee and Kenny were BFF's in my playthrough... not Clem and Kenny, even though he is a favourite I wouldn't prioritise him.
i'd go for nick... i like nick..spread the nickluv
I can't see the rest of your post.@_@ Can you edit it? The forum keeps doing this. If you choose edit, the rest of your post should appear.
Since I went with Nick and not Pete in All That Remains, I didn't have to promise anything.
I did however tell Omid and Christa that I wanted Kenny to look after her, so I'd probably go for Kenny. My Lee and him were best buds in S1, and I think he would be the perfect guardian for Clem right now because he considered my Lee and Clem family in S1 EP4. ("You and Clementine are the only family I got left, I'm with ya, to the end.") and we all know what drastic measures Kenny will take to protect people he considers family.