Ben and Nick....because the Zombie Apocolypse was not enough.

edited May 2014 in The Walking Dead
LOL omg what idiots,
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  • That shitbird Ben and Triggerfinger Nick.
  • nick isn't that bad he seems a decent guy but bens a fuck up
  • Ben and Nick.......making the end of the world worse since '12


    lol somebody needs to make a memme about this

    That shitbird Ben and Triggerfinger Nick.

  • edited May 2014
    That's right!Nick is trying very hard to not be a fuck-up,and I forgive and like him for that!I just hope his role in ep3 (for those that saved him,of course)is big!And btw,rewinding to kill Nick or kill him on propose is not human!I killed Alvin,but not on purpose :( I didn't want to rewind,cuz I like to roll with my original choices :D
    TWD95 posted: »

    nick isn't that bad he seems a decent guy but bens a fuck up

  • I managed to keep both Alvin and nick alive in my original playthrough I hope at least one of them survives ep3

    That's right!Nick is trying very hard to not be a fuck-up,and I forgive and like him for that!I just hope his role in ep3 (for those that sa

  • They're just foil characters. Ben was experiencing the fear and shock of the zombie outbreak as it was beginning. So you could understand some of his decisions in that context. With Nick (who has apparently survived the zombie outbreak for years) you would think he'd be a little less half-cocked and panicky. It should be nothing new to him. So i guess we can assume Nick is just a tool.
  • Ben was a fuckup with no sense of survival or how to be around others.

    Nick at least is competent and well aware of his actions, and he's not a coward either. Everything he has done has been to protect his friends or family. He isn't the kind of guy who thrives in survival situations though, he's swayed easily by emotion and isn't terribly good with a gun, like most people would be in a zombie apocalypse.

    I hate how people keep putting Ben and Nick in the same category, Nick is nothing like Ben.
  • I guess I'll have to watch other playthoughs to see what happens when you let Nick die or let Alvin live,and what happens if nobody goes with tavia in 400 days,cause' it's confirmed that the choices in 400 days matter.Everybody whent with tavia in my playthrough,I was so proud at the time,and I still don't have any doubts that they will be trouble.IM guessing they will be nice (at least most of them),and I just hope I can befriend Vince and the others,and see what happens when Clem meets becca XD
    TWD95 posted: »

    I managed to keep both Alvin and nick alive in my original playthrough I hope at least one of them survives ep3

  • True.Ben let Clem to die by walkers in ep4,and Nick almost shot her in the face.Atleast Nick had a reason to try to shoot Clem,since he didn't want a walker problem again like what happend with his mom.
    Ayrtonius posted: »

    Ben was a fuckup with no sense of survival or how to be around others. Nick at least is competent and well aware of his actions, and he

  • edited May 2014
    I bet some of the people on here that call Ben and Nick idiots would probably be like them if there was a real ZA. Fucking up and getting scared, hell i know i wouldn't be the perfect survivor.
  • Yup, same here.

    I bet some of the people on here that call Ben and Nick idiots would probably be like them if there was a real ZA. Fucking up and getting scared, hell i know i wouldn't be the perfect survivor.

  • should be interesting how 400 days choices impact season 2 bonnie always goes with tavia no matter which dialogue option you choose :)

    I guess I'll have to watch other playthoughs to see what happens when you let Nick die or let Alvin live,and what happens if nobody goes wit

  • edited May 2014
    If my calculations are right then 70-90 % of users would die during ZA in less then 3 months... no? Okay, fine! Less then 3 weeks.

    I bet some of the people on here that call Ben and Nick idiots would probably be like them if there was a real ZA. Fucking up and getting scared, hell i know i wouldn't be the perfect survivor.

  • Why is everybody so protective about Nick? Don't get me wrong Nick Is a good kid but shit.... he makes some dumb decisions, I can't forgive him that he shot Matthew for no fuckin reason, I'm really mad about it after I find out Matthew was telling the truth about the food, or that he shot Clementine almost at the cabin, under normal circumstances I can forgive after a time, but fuck this is the apocalypse and he get good people killed.
  • lol no you suck.

    I bet some of the people on here that call Ben and Nick idiots would probably be like them if there was a real ZA. Fucking up and getting scared, hell i know i wouldn't be the perfect survivor.

  • I doubt so many people would be making deals with bandits and shooting random people, though...I don't know, they fucked up just a tad bit more than the average human. I'm sorry, but unlike most people, I have a little bit of faith in my species, but that would probably lead to my death.

    I bet some of the people on here that call Ben and Nick idiots would probably be like them if there was a real ZA. Fucking up and getting scared, hell i know i wouldn't be the perfect survivor.

  • yeahd you would totally die, Id be already dead coz id still be waiting for episode 3

    I doubt so many people would be making deals with bandits and shooting random people, though...I don't know, they fucked up just a tad bit m

  • Nick is like, Zombie Surfer Jesus, ok? we love that fucking kid ok, get used to it
    True_Scum posted: »

    Why is everybody so protective about Nick? Don't get me wrong Nick Is a good kid but shit.... he makes some dumb decisions, I can't forgive

  • No, I wouldn't. I fooled you, Machiavellian style. I've already shot you and taken all of your stuff. :)

    yeahd you would totally die, Id be already dead coz id still be waiting for episode 3

  • We really can't make calculations based on the Walking Dead universe, because the lack of knowledge we already have in it, such as where did the infection originate? Or is the infection airborne? These, along with the mentality and physique of the individuals, would have to be taken in, in order to make accurate calculations of a surviving population. I did something similar in Biology a couple years back.
    Tewudin posted: »

    If my calculations are right then 70-90 % of users would die during ZA in less then 3 months... no? Okay, fine! Less then 3 weeks.

  • The thing is though... Everytime Nick did something, he was just trying to help. He shot Matthew because he thought that Clem and Luke were in danger, although still stupid. Although, Ben did everything he did only thinking about himself. He said that he was trying to keep the bandits off their backs, although the *real* reason is because they said they had his friend, which isn't all that selfish but it continues... Later on he leaves Clementine in the street to save his own skin. He knew that Clementine could have just died then and didn't care.

    I like Nick a lot more than I like Ben.
  • edited May 2014
    You're right, of course. Based on common knowledge about zombie infection in the most of books, comics and movies the disease is spreading mostly through bites. If it was like in TWD then most likely most of us would be dead in an early stage of ZA but... it looks diffrent if we look at movies such as Dawn of the Dead or Max Brooks books.

    We really can't make calculations based on the Walking Dead universe, because the lack of knowledge we already have in it, such as where did

  • It's not being protective, it's because people see that he is a good character. Many characters make stupid mistakes, including Kenny, who everyone seems to love.

    If Nick did all those stupid things and never owned up to them, and was just a bumbling idiot, and everyone STILL liked him, then they would probably be "protective".

    As it stands though, Nick is the one character with the most character development in season 2, with the exception of Clementine herself. We've had more time to get to know Nick than we have for the other characters. And it's hard to hate a person who willingly apologizes for their mistakes, and even risks their life to tell the truth about something bad he did. He also sacrificed himself for Clementine if you save Nick instead of Pete.
    Nick is probably the most realistic, most empathetic character in the game. He has flaws and he has redeeming qualities, like any normal person. Judging his entire character over a few actions is stupid if you don't weigh in some of his other actions.

    Oh, and he didn't shoot Matthew for no reason. he did it to protect Luke and Clem, Luke especially. He just lost his Uncle, the last family he had left, and he was a nervous wreck over it. Luke is the only person he has left, and he started to grow fond of Clem too, so him trying to protect them made a lot of sense, especially given his state at the time.
    True_Scum posted: »

    Why is everybody so protective about Nick? Don't get me wrong Nick Is a good kid but shit.... he makes some dumb decisions, I can't forgive

  • The problem I have with Nick is that he puts Clementine in immediate danger. And he is a general health hazard to be around. Every decision he's made was more harmful than the last. "Nick, don't shoot!" That happened for like 10 seconds, and he still shot. I'm sorry, but you lose my sympathy if you can't keep your shit together.
    Ayrtonius posted: »

    It's not being protective, it's because people see that he is a good character. Many characters make stupid mistakes, including Kenny, who e

  • CrazyGeorgeCrazyGeorge Banned
    edited May 2014
    Leave Ben alone, like any of us were intelligent at his age, I look at the stupid things i did as a high school kid, and just laugh now. He was a kid.

    Nick is awesome. He made me laugh right after killing Matt, when he started making fun of Carlos voice. I have a feeling the new team will be by the end of this Clem/Nick.
  • All I know is a shit ton of people would die if that happened in the beginning stages, then the rest of the survivors would be forced to adapt to the environment where they are not the predators.
    Tewudin posted: »

    You're right, of course. Based on common knowledge about zombie infection in the most of books, comics and movies the disease is spreading m

  • Not exactly. People still would be predators for other animals such as deer or rabits. The only difference is that they could be also haunted by the undead.

    All I know is a shit ton of people would die if that happened in the beginning stages, then the rest of the survivors would be forced to adapt to the environment where they are not the predators.

  • Congratulations, you made a thread about the same asinine shit that people have been saying ever since these characters were introduced.

    I'm not asking you to like them, but Jesus, it gets old to see people just mindlessly spout about how much they hate them. Bring something new to the table for once. Make me actually interested in what you have to say.
  • This.

    The primary difference between Nick and Ben is that Nick would have *never* run off on Clem like Ben did in EP. 4.
    Ayrtonius posted: »

    Ben was a fuckup with no sense of survival or how to be around others. Nick at least is competent and well aware of his actions, and he

  • edited May 2014
    lol

    I bet some of the people on here that call Ben and Nick idiots would probably be like them if there was a real ZA. Fucking up and getting scared, hell i know i wouldn't be the perfect survivor.

  • What's so bad about Nick? .-.
  • 'The Walking Ben'

    Ben and Nick.......making the end of the world worse since '12 lol somebody needs to make a memme about this

  • Really? You don't know?
    12494 posted: »

    What's so bad about Nick? .-.

  • Don't know what?

    Really? You don't know?

  • edited May 2014
    To be honest, I like Nick a whole lot more than Ben. Sure, Nick made mistakes, but at least Nick does everything he can to try and make things right and owns up when he has done wrong. Ben, on the other hand, would try to cover up what he had done till his conscience couldn't take any more. Ben was a fuck up, and Nick is a guy that just made a few wrong calls.
  • What's bad about Nick? He's Ben with a rifle.
    12494 posted: »

    Don't know what?

  • Exactly, him covering his ass is what got Carly/Doug killed.

    To be honest, I like Nick a whole lot more than Ben. Sure, Nick made mistakes, but at least Nick does everything he can to try and make thin

  • Its the damn apocalypse. Its impossible to always keep your shit together.

    The problem I have with Nick is that he puts Clementine in immediate danger. And he is a general health hazard to be around. Every decision

  • Absolutely. Usually when placing judgement on people, you weigh it on their actions. And Nick has terrible judgement calls. Shooting a man who was talking to (and obviously not a danger to) Clem or Luke is what I'd call "a health hazard." Especially when the man has his gun LOWERED.

    Its the damn apocalypse. Its impossible to always keep your shit together.

  • Ya gotta point there. But it doesn't make him worse than Ben.

    Absolutely. Usually when placing judgement on people, you weigh it on their actions. And Nick has terrible judgement calls. Shooting a man w

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