Carver's Guns

edited May 2014 in The Walking Dead
I'm bored, so I might as well make a thread. Where did Carver get all the AKs and ammo for them?
EDIT: In fact, not only did they kind of waste it at the ski lodge, everyone is pretty sure that they shot everyone at the river. Pete said they were full of holes, so they clearly weren't aiming for the head. Hence why one of them was still alive and at least one of them was a walker.

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  • edited May 2014
    Looting, I guess.

    I would say from the army but I don't imagine the US army would have many AKs, and not being from the US I'm not terribly familiar with how many civilians own them there.
  • edited May 2014
    I think he got it from a military base or something. Or a gun shop.
  • edited May 2014
    He must of done a lot of looting them. They were practically wasting the ammo at the ski lodge.

    Looting, I guess. I would say from the army but I don't imagine the US army would have many AKs, and not being from the US I'm not terribly familiar with how many civilians own them there.

  • From the AK and ammo factories.
  • It would have to be a lot of gun shops then. They seem to have quite a bit of ammo.

    I think he got it from a military base or something. Or a gun shop.

  • I didn't know but I do know that Carver's gun is a Colt Python the same type of gun Rick uses.
  • Could've just been letting the cabin group know that they have superior firepower and they should probably stand down.

    Even then, they weren't really spraying if I recall. Most of them were on target with their shots.
    Spooch posted: »

    He must of done a lot of looting them. They were practically wasting the ammo at the ski lodge.

  • Awesome gun :) Not the fact that Carver uses it on Walter though....

    I didn't know but I do know that Carver's gun is a Colt Python the same type of gun Rick uses.

  • The other guards are shown to have them too, so its not for display. Also yeah, they weren't spraying, but they were shooting them at walker that they could have just taken down with melee.

    Could've just been letting the cabin group know that they have superior firepower and they should probably stand down. Even then, they weren't really spraying if I recall. Most of them were on target with their shots.

  • Kalashnikov variant firearms are pretty common in the United States amongst civilian gun owners. As a result 7.62x39mm ammunition is pretty common as well.
  • edited May 2014
    Yeah, I know it's pretty common, but they seem to have a ton of it from what we've seen. Its four years into the apocalypse, you'd think this stuff would be pretty rare at this point.

    Kalashnikov variant firearms are pretty common in the United States amongst civilian gun owners. As a result 7.62x39mm ammunition is pretty common as well.

  • if he is average American then i guess he like, had most of them in his draw next to his socks
  • It's not four years in. All of season 1 was about 3 months, then for Christa to be at the end of her pregnancy it was probably at least 7 months later, and then there was a 16 month time skip. It's been a bit over two years at best, and most people die near the beginning. A group of the most able and dedicated survivors could find more guns and ammo than they might ever need if they thoroughly searched just a few rural towns, especially in the south. I highly doubt everything would be used up that fast; you underestimate American gun owners.
    Spooch posted: »

    Yeah, I know it's pretty common, but they seem to have a ton of it from what we've seen. Its four years into the apocalypse, you'd think this stuff would be pretty rare at this point.

  • Woops, I accidentally put four lol. I don't know why, I sometimes type the wrong words :p.
    Its probably because I live in the north east and have never seen a gun shop. I'm sure they are around, but clearly not enough for me to see any. I kind of forgot they are way more common down south.

    It's not four years in. All of season 1 was about 3 months, then for Christa to be at the end of her pregnancy it was probably at least 7 mo

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited May 2014
    Well, it's not exactly a perfect explanation, but here we go...

    AK-style rifles and the 7.62mm ammo they use tend to be pretty common in America, most of them were sold as surplus from former the Eastern Bloc collapsed. Civilians without a special permit are only allowed to buy semi-auto models. but anyone with the basic tools and some gunsmithing skills could probably convert it to full-auto without much trouble.

    The wasteful ammo use kinda bothered me too, but I just chalk it up to the 'rule of cool' winning out over realism.
  • I know you were joking, but my ex military father actually keeps a pistol in his sock drawer, and a glock in his bedside table.

    if he is average American then i guess he like, had most of them in his draw next to his socks

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    I know you were joking, but my ex military father actually keeps a pistol in his sock drawer, and a glock in his bedside table.

  • I keep a semi-auto rifle under my bed. God bless America. :D

    I know you were joking, but my ex military father actually keeps a pistol in his sock drawer, and a glock in his bedside table.

  • I keep one next to Kevin Bacon =]
    BigBlindMax posted: »

    I keep a semi-auto rifle under my bed. God bless America. :D

  • Guns shops have plenty of ammo. At least the ones I've been to do.
    Spooch posted: »

    It would have to be a lot of gun shops then. They seem to have quite a bit of ammo.

  • edited May 2014
    Is it unrealistic to have shit tons of ammo? i mean, look how much ammo and guns Morgan looted in the TV show.

    Also

    "According to the Geneva-based Small Arms Survey – the leading source of international public information about firearms – the U.S. has the best-armed civilian population in the world, with an estimated 270 million total guns. That’s an average of 89 firearms for every 100 residents"
  • I got 3 at the house lol!

    Is it unrealistic to have shit tons of ammo? i mean, look how much ammo and guns Morgan looted in the TV show. Also "According to

  • Well the ammo use is kinda unrealistic or a couple of reasons.

    1.) Ammo, even the surplus 7.62x39R that the AK uses, is expensive, to the tune of 25-60¢ per round fired. The cheapest box I could find was $130 for 500rds and that was VERY cheap, crappy ammunition.

    2.) Demnd is outpacing supply. Ammunition is almost always in shortage for one reason or another. It would be even worse during an outbreak. Common rounds like 9mm, .223 and 7.62R would fly off the shelves.

    3.) Firing in full auto is completely impractical. Suppressive fire is useful against humans because it's terrifying and forces the enemy to keep his/her head down, allowing another team to flank and kill them. Walkers don't feel any fear, so firing at them in full auto is just a drain on a resource which is already in short supply.

    Is it unrealistic to have shit tons of ammo? i mean, look how much ammo and guns Morgan looted in the TV show. Also "According to

  • They clearly shoot their weapons in burst fire. It sounds full auto because there's more than one AK.
    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Well the ammo use is kinda unrealistic or a couple of reasons. 1.) Ammo, even the surplus 7.62x39R that the AK uses, is expensive, to t

  • Damn...that's a lot of juice. I'm in Japan, estimated armed civilian: 0.

    Is it unrealistic to have shit tons of ammo? i mean, look how much ammo and guns Morgan looted in the TV show. Also "According to

  • They ordered a shipment from Russia. Even in the apocalypse, we still send you weapons!
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