Parts that you din't like about In Harm's Way

So, what parts you din't like about episode 3?

Well, I'm annoyed that the 400 Days characters other than Bonnie din't have any big roles whatsoever in this episode. I hope they will be important in episode 4.

And I feel like Carver was killed off to early, I thought he was supposed to be the main villain of this season.

So those are my dislikes about the episode. What were your dislikes?
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  • DOC'S DEATH. It happened so fast I didn't even manage to calm down Sarah! It's so unfair!

    But on a serious note, I hated Shel and Becca as cameos. It was just Becca being rude for a while and Shel calming her. Hello? Something more?

    You know, I preferred Nick Breckon's writing. But still, it was amazing episode
  • Reggie's death, I was hoping he would stay alive longer then 20 minutes.
  • edited May 2014
    That episode is one of the best in this Season so far. BUT the parts I don't like;

    * 400 Days choices other than cameos really don't matter in this episode. Including Season One choices.

    * Carver's death. I mean REALLY?! I thought he would be the best power maniac evil in this Season. But nope.

    * Carlos's death. JESUS ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME?! At least I expected to be a memoriable death scene. Like sacrifising himself to the walkers for protecting Sarah.

    * Also I didn't like the idea that they forced Clementine to do a amputation to Sarita.

    * From the looks of it Luke is bitten. F**k my life. I don't know anymore. It'S gonna be Lee all over again.

    * Alvin's death. Pete all over again.
  • 1) I didn't really like Carver's characterization. I was expecting him to be more calculating/intelligent and on the morally grey side of things, but nope. It felt like he was violent for the sake of being violent. That's alright I guess, but I personally don't find those kinds of antagonists interesting.

    2) Not being able to interact with the other 400 Days characters besides Bonnie is upsetting. It's also kind of OOC in my opinion that Russell and Shel would be in Carver's community, considering all they've been through with tyrant camp leaders.

    3) Some of the dialogue was written.. badly. It felt awkward at times listening to some characters speak.

    Anyways, don't get me wrong, I liked the episode, but it had a few flaws.
  • KunnyKunny Banned
    uh...everything?
  • You din't like the episode?
    Kunny posted: »

    uh...everything?

  • edited May 2014
    -Reggie felt pointless. Plus his voice acting was pretty bad.

    -Carver died too early. I wanted to know more about his character.

    -The 400 days characters (excluding Bonnie and Tavia) only had brief cameos. I was hoping they'd play a bigger role.

    -Jane seems like a carbon copy of Molly.
  • (Carlos death) Who in Carver's group shot Carlos and why?I mean when there hundred's of walker's attacking your camp, they decide to shoot Carlos instead?

    We never know the story about Alvin killing George , It is like they dump this idea
  • Someone in another thread said it was Tavia.
    Order 66 posted: »

    (Carlos death) Who in Carver's group shot Carlos and why?I mean when there hundred's of walker's attacking your camp, they decide to shoot Carlos instead? We never know the story about Alvin killing George , It is like they dump this idea

  • "Don't indulge him. It's always something with this guy."

    You din't like the episode?

  • Loved most of it, but I wish there was an option to ask Kenny to let you join in with the killing of Carver.
  • Pretty much this ^

    Except I think Jane is just crazier than Molly... she is seriously convincing Clem to leave the group...
    Lahkesis posted: »

    -Reggie felt pointless. Plus his voice acting was pretty bad. -Carver died too early. I wanted to know more about his character. -

  • Can you be specific?
    Kunny posted: »

    uh...everything?

  • Yeah I heard that too but I rewatch Carlos getting killed again and it only show's the bullet and not who shot's their gun at Carlos

    Is their proof Tavia killed Carlos?
    Lahkesis posted: »

    Someone in another thread said it was Tavia.

  • KunnyKunny Banned
    Not really, too many plot holes, bad writing...the characters were good but that doesn't change much.

    You din't like the episode?

  • Totally agree about Reggie' s voice acting. It was painful to listen to. So awkward and unnatural. It made it to where I didn't really care when he died. I agree with the rest of your points too, though all in all I really liked the episode.
    Lahkesis posted: »

    -Reggie felt pointless. Plus his voice acting was pretty bad. -Carver died too early. I wanted to know more about his character. -

  • I didn't see them. When do they show up?
    Crips posted: »

    DOC'S DEATH. It happened so fast I didn't even manage to calm down Sarah! It's so unfair! But on a serious note, I hated Shel and Becca

  • I was pretty surprised that Carver was taken out, but I suppose his words will echo in Kenny's behavior considering what happened to Sarita and Sarah (no doctor means the chances of surviving an amputation are reduced even more, especially without supplies, and if Luke's actually been bitten, this could spell a very bad scenario if they make it back to the lodge or the cabin, or some other enclosed shelter).

    I would have liked a short conversation with each of the 400 Days survivors to find out how they saw the camp for themselves, but episode 4 will probably bring those people into Clem's group.
  • edited May 2014
    There's no proof, it could by anyone from the roof shooters, but, you know. I think it was Tavia because he recognized him and didn't want him to make it, so she shot him. Also, it was a shot to the neck, normally people should aim for the head. You can also say that she was aiming for the head but missed and got the neck, but, shhh, conspiracy theories are better.

    Also, the other guards didn't interact with Carlos very often. They just saw him few times, while Tavia saw him more times. So she had bigger chance of recognizing him disguised as a walker.

    Wow, I really am a conspiracy theorist.
    Order 66 posted: »

    Yeah I heard that too but I rewatch Carlos getting killed again and it only show's the bullet and not who shot's their gun at Carlos Is their proof Tavia killed Carlos?

  • KunnyKunny Banned
    edited May 2014
    - The thing about Alvin killing George not explained
    - Carver's early death
    - The guards don't like Carver and his attituide, but they don't even try to kill him.
    - 400 Days character not very much into this episode, what role will they play? I mean, we will only see them in 4 and 5 episode?
    - No Character developement.
    - Reggie's voice acting...wasn't bad, but it was just out of the character o_o
    - Boring
    - Not many feels

    Can you be specific?

  • Well, you aren't forced to amputate Sarita's arm. You can hit the walker's head (I don't know what the outcome will be, though).
    Dark_Star posted: »

    That episode is one of the best in this Season so far. BUT the parts I don't like; * 400 Days choices other than cameos really don't ma

  • Reggie's voice acting was bad enough to take me out of the episode whenever his mouth was open. Honestly, it felt like they just pulled some random guy off the street and asked him to read the lines into a mic.

    I'm expecting the 400 days characters other than Bonnie to have a more interesting role to play later on. If they don't, then wow, what a waste.

    No hubs. Again. Expected.

    I wish Carver had survived to have more of a role in the season, but now I'm half-wondering if our villain from now on is going to be Tavia seeking revenge.
  • One thing. Reggie´s voiceacting.So painful to hear.I was kinda glad that he died.i thought: Finnaly i dont have to hear that voice. + 400days characters
  • I disagree, carver dying made the story way better. We all THOUGHT he would make it to episode 5 but It was a major plot twist many didn't see coming.
    Dark_Star posted: »

    That episode is one of the best in this Season so far. BUT the parts I don't like; * 400 Days choices other than cameos really don't ma

  • I didn't like the rule of 400 days charactears in the game.

    I didn't like Russel and Wyatt appearence, was a bit strange.

    I think Regi seemed to be nicer in the playing dead, in the episode he seems to me to be annoying and they said he would be funny but I didn't found anything funny in him.
  • -Carlos' death. Well I was expecting that, but the way they took him out...
    - Carver took out way too early, I thought he will be the main antagonist, now I don't even what'll heppen in the next episodes.
    -400 days characters. Asisde from from Bonnie it was underwhelming as hell, I was so hoping with some interactions with them but nope. Let's just hope the'll have bigger roles in the next episodes
  • When Clem's heading over to Bonnie, you can't miss them. I'm assuming they didn't go in your playthrough.

    I didn't see them. When do they show up?

  • Carlos' death
  • Omid's catOmid's cat Banned
    edited May 2014
    I had doubts but now I'm sure - magic of TWD is gone. "In Harm's Way" is boring episode. Nothing surprised me. Nothing shocked me. TTG revealed most interesting parts in the trailer. Carver is a jerk not a boss. He's talking bullshit and nobody's paying attention. Every times he appears he has to do something violent. It's stupid. Only strongest will survive - how original. Waste of good character. Good Bonnie is back. Didn't notice Carver is a psycho. Rrright... Suddenly Luke is back. Why did he leave? And mysterious girl? She's some kind of Steve McQueen from The Great Escape? Undeveloped character. Other 400 days characters? Thanks Telltale, so much interaction with them, wow. Worst episode so far.

    Oh, Clem didn't lose ultra strenght. Knocks out adult zombie with one hit and chops arm off really fast.
  • No, they went. I guess it must've been when my brother was distracting me. Russel too I guess.

    When Clem's heading over to Bonnie, you can't miss them. I'm assuming they didn't go in your playthrough.

  • edited May 2014
    I opened another save file just to see what happens. Oh my god. It was crazy. Situation, Sarita's look and scream...
    eRock92 posted: »

    Well, you aren't forced to amputate Sarita's arm. You can hit the walker's head (I don't know what the outcome will be, though).

  • Also, I was worried Carver was just going to be a retread of the Governor-Negan style villain. Y'know, psychopath-ruling-as-a-tinpot-despot?

    My fears were well founded. He would have been more interesting with greyer morality and more depth.
  • - Reggie's voice acting and the fact that he was killed off so quickly
    - Dissappointing apperances of 400days characters (except Bonnie)
    - Not enough character development
    - Choices (They weren't hard enough IMO)
  • edited May 2014
    Hmm, looks like I'm the only one who actually liked Reggie and his voice actor. And about things I didn't like: 400 days characters. I mean, is that's it? All we've got from them was looking at Clem disrespectfully and saying 5-10 words to her. Come on. Aaaand that's pretty much it. I actually enjoyed this episode, especially the ending. The episode ended in the very proper moment - when Sarita screams. A bit sooner or later and it wouldn't impressed me so much. Now that's was a cliffhanger!

    P.S. I have to admit I didn't like Kenny(especially first 30-50 minutes of ep.3), but later in this episode I really cared about him, cause he really cared about Clem. And I was worrying for him after he was beaten by Carver. Because he stepped out for Clem, even he knew that he would be beaten.
    P.P.S. In my humble opinion that was the best episode so far in this season, and one of the best in the series. So that's 9/10 from me.
  • -Alvin killing George is sort of explained.
    -Carver's early death is only in opinion. I'm glad he died this early.
    -They know Carver is pretty fucked up, and they want to stay safe in the community. Also, Troy was only questionable of Carver's behavior with the Kenny scene, other than that the guards were ok with it... except for Bonnie who actually helped.
    -I agree with the 400 days character thing but I believe they'll come into play later... as in, I think it was just too determinant to have any big dialogue with someone that most people might not see at the camp, maybe if they all have to come to see Clem's group again, there will be more dialogue and such.
    -No character development only depending on how you played it...
    -Reggie's voice acting was out of character, yes.
    -I don't see how you could possibly find it boring...
    -Not many feels? Duck's mention? Do you not own a soul?
    Kunny posted: »

    - The thing about Alvin killing George not explained - Carver's early death - The guards don't like Carver and his attituide, but they d

  • *Reggie's VA. To some extent, his character, since there wasn't much to it, he was there to make a point. Message received, captain obvious, Carver's the villain.

    *Some dialogue felt... awkward. Could've been worse, but yeah, some scenes at the beginning... not so great.

    *The 400 days cameos are a disgrace. But I guess it's to be expected; too much branching to reliably incorporate with their development cycle.

    *Choices on this one are kind of weak. They feel, for the most part, irrelevant, even more than usual. To be expected, considering...

    *...Carver. No, not his death. Actually, his death was timely and here's why: He is not an interesting villain. He is made to be hated, a catalyst for bad shit to happen in the story, but he is just another madman in a long line of TWD characters that thank the heavens got killed off before we had to put up with one diabolous ex machina after another. TWD uses a lot of those, yeah, but they rarely ever feel so forced than the always-one-step-ahead-of-you bully.

    Telltale had two options: Artificially make him a thorn in our side for the rest of this season, explore his character more and with luck have him turn out a good enough villain by the time of *No Going Back* or go the easy way. Have him be the catalyst for *stuff and thaangs* to happen, make him enough of a bastard so that the average player feels a strong enough catharsis once his death comes and keep moving with whatever the rest of the story for this season is.

    He served his purpose. Nothing more.

    *Oh, BTW, kinda short, *some* characters lack characterization (but OMG, Rebecca, I was kinda wrong about you) and no hubs. Again. The usual.

    I liked it, though.
  • I seriously wanted Clem to respond to Carver with something like "Go fuck yourself" after he started comparing Clem to him near the end...

    Although i'm not a GIANT fan of Clem swearing, moments like that i'd find necessary.

    Loved most of it, but I wish there was an option to ask Kenny to let you join in with the killing of Carver.

  • 400 days characters not having much screen time except for Bonnie. Hopefully some of them will be able to escape the herd and appear in next episodes.
  • Tavia will probably be some sort of antagonist. The thing is though, Carver wasn't really known for that long and I didn't expect him to last very long.

    Tavia however, has been known since 400 days which it's almost been a year since we've met her so it'd only make sense IMO.

    Reggie's voice acting was bad enough to take me out of the episode whenever his mouth was open. Honestly, it felt like they just pulled some

  • edited May 2014
    Oops, triple post.

    Reggie's voice acting was bad enough to take me out of the episode whenever his mouth was open. Honestly, it felt like they just pulled some

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