The Compound

edited May 2014 in The Walking Dead
The whole compound was wasted potential. It always sounded larger than what we got to explore. The most were saw of it was the Yard (AKA Prison) and a couple of warehouses. The inhabitants seemed to consist entirely of Carver, Tavia, Troy Bonnie and a handful of Carver's other guards. From the speech Carver gives over the PA - talks of expansion and community - it sounds huge, not to mention Tavia's explanation of them having families and kids there (and that probably wasn't a lie). All it all it just felt like another glorified barricade we've seen already, not an actual fledging piece of civilisation. There could have been some great moral ambiguity in attracting the horde with the risk of all those other (innocent) people being In Harm's Way.

It could have been a major change in TWD's narrative. We've never actually been at a large encampment yet, instead Clem has only ever been around small groups of about five people in the middle of nowhere. The civilisation could have been a stark contrast, with the line drawn between safe security and other people versus Carver's dictatorship.

Instead we got Motel 2.0, The Cavernor dead within the episode and back on the road. Again. I realise that TWD's entire plot - comic, TV show, game, whatever - can basically be summed up as; Find safety, get hopeful, zombies/antagonist humans wreck it, characters die, go on the road again, repeat. We all figured the Compound wasn't going to last the series but that quickly?

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  • HUGE POTENTIAL WASTED. BIG MISTAKE FROM TTG. I'm very dissapointed with this episode and how they handled things.
  • edited May 2014
    I expected more people- hell, even just Carver mentioning that we would be segregated from the rest of the community because we're a bad influence and having about 10 other outcasts in the probation yard would make me happier than what we got. They really wasted that opportunity- the thing I was most looking forward to was seeing so many new characters and a big community!
  • Seriously disappointed that a little barbed wire kept everyone from climbing the fence. (Except the one armed dude.)

    Gods forbid you get a little cut while trying to escape from slavery.
  • edited May 2014
    Nah, man… Barbed wire's not that easy to get by. It basically lacerates you and slices open skin while snagging your clothes and getting you stuck in plain sight to get shot by guards.

    Wait, when did Reggie climb the fence? He got bitten working on the outside, not sneaking out.

    Seriously disappointed that a little barbed wire kept everyone from climbing the fence. (Except the one armed dude.) Gods forbid you get a little cut while trying to escape from slavery.

  • I meant I can understand why someone with just one hand wouldn't be able to climb a fence.

    And there's ways around barbs. You could just be careful, and there is plenty of stuff they could throw over it. I'm not buying it.
    Tenmile posted: »

    Nah, man… Barbed wire's not that easy to get by. It basically lacerates you and slices open skin while snagging your clothes and getting you

  • Why did a little barbed wire stop the allies from overrunning German trenches in WWI? Because the barbed wire isn't there to stop people. It's there to catch skin/clothing an attacker/escapee until the guys with guns can or kill them.

    Barbed wire by itself is annoyance. Vigilant guards with machine guns are dangerous. The combination is death

    Seriously disappointed that a little barbed wire kept everyone from climbing the fence. (Except the one armed dude.) Gods forbid you get a little cut while trying to escape from slavery.

  • That's an absurd argument. You're comparing armies of people camped in trenches with a few people who weren't even paying attention really.
    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Why did a little barbed wire stop the allies from overrunning German trenches in WWI? Because the barbed wire isn't there to stop people.

  • I live close to a Marine Installation. Trust me, the barbed wire hurts a lot more than you think.

    Seriously disappointed that a little barbed wire kept everyone from climbing the fence. (Except the one armed dude.) Gods forbid you get a little cut while trying to escape from slavery.

  • Enough to keep you a prisoner in a slave camp? Do go on.

    I live close to a Marine Installation. Trust me, the barbed wire hurts a lot more than you think.

  • edited May 2014
    i think part of the reason for that was because the trailer makes it seem like they're marching you into a roughly gated community similar to woodbury, and then what we actually get is stuck in a van and end up in the gardening section of a home depot.
  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited May 2014
    It was made rather clear that there were armed guards and it's implied that the guards were watching.

    Also, the argument is far from absurd, the same principle applies. Barbed wire is designed to deter or temporarily immobilize. It's very effective in both regards, hence why it's such a difficult defense to breach when combined with guards. Prisons use razor wire and watch towers for the same reason. Government and private sector facilities that store sensitive data or hazardous/valuable materials also use barbed wire in conjunction with armed guards and detection devices to fulfill the same goals, 'deter' or 'immobilize, detect and destroy/capture'. Why would barbed wire be used so widely if it's nothing more than a mere inconvenience, as per your claim?

    That's an absurd argument. You're comparing armies of people camped in trenches with a few people who weren't even paying attention really.

  • This was my biggest problem with the episode.
  • edited May 2014
    We could talk about how awesome it is at keeping cattle from crossing the street. I didn't see any ever-vigilant armed guards in the yard.

    And I'll also add that your examples are gonna use more than two coils on top of a fence.
    BigBlindMax posted: »

    It was made rather clear that there were armed guards and it's implied that the guards were watching. Also, the argument is far from ab

  • Can you seriously picture Rebecca or Sarah being able to scale a barbed wire topped fence without getting snagged and attracting a shitload of attention? Is it sensible to expect them to take that kind of risk, when Carver and his gorillas have proven themselves willing to kill or maim people or the smallest infraction? Because I don't think so.

    I also never argued that barbed wire is an effective defense by itself. I'm arguing that it's an important component within a larger defense-in-depth strategy, to be used in conjunction with guards and/or other security controls.

    We could talk about how awesome it is at keeping cattle from crossing the street. I didn't see any ever-vigilant armed guards in the yard. And I'll also add that your examples are gonna use more than two coils on top of a fence.

  • Dude, FUCK Rebecca. I was hoping for a 'Shut the fuck up' dialogue option every time she opened her mouth, but it never came. I'd not give a crap if she couldn't get three feet off the ground. And yeah I think Sarah could climb a fence, it's not astrophysics.
    BigBlindMax posted: »

    Can you seriously picture Rebecca or Sarah being able to scale a barbed wire topped fence without getting snagged and attracting a shitload

  • they had also said not to try climbing the fence. carver could see if they did. sure he can't be watching all the time, but the dude's pretty damn driven and was in his office alot beating the crap out of alvin atleast...

    Dude, FUCK Rebecca. I was hoping for a 'Shut the fuck up' dialogue option every time she opened her mouth, but it never came. I'd not give

  • I'll agree to disagree on this one, we're liable to keep going around in circles otherwise.

    Dude, FUCK Rebecca. I was hoping for a 'Shut the fuck up' dialogue option every time she opened her mouth, but it never came. I'd not give

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