I agree. Luke seems kind of like an oblivious guy, imo. But still, Nick's comment "You gonna tuck me in?" felt kind of subtext-y, and if it were a girl saying it to a guy or vice-versa, people would've probably seen something there. I dunno.
And yeah, it would be an interesting plot point. Luke, while I think he's mostly oblivious to subtle romantic gestures, seems like the type of guy who wants to be independent and would probably move out of a relationship quickly. So even if he did notice, I can't see it happening with either of them canonically.
Mm, to be honest, I see less validity in Nick/Luke now, I kind of more just feel like Nick's got a thing for Luke and it's not reciprocated.… more But there's something... not quite straight there, nevertheless.
But yeah, no, absolutely, I've been comparing Nick/Luke to Carley/Lee from the beginning. Now that Bonnie/Luke is apparently becoming a thing... I dunno. I can honestly see them both having unrequited feelings for Luke and personally I hope that's the direction Telltale chooses to take it in. Not banking on it, though. Telltale seems to only want to introduce LGBT+ characters if they can kill them off in the same episode.
That's a wonderful mindset to have, AusZombie, I think you'll be a great parent.
Nah, nah, me voicing my opinion is usually this kind of thing. There was a Nuke thread a while back where I had to call out a handful of people for making really cruel remarks, and luckily I got a lot of up-votes, but still. Feels a bit overwhelming.
Well putt it this way, i'm straight and I see the possibility of Clem being into girls the same way that I would see my own daughter (if I h… moread one) being into girls. As long as she is happy with the person she is with who cares.
I still don't know why people are still talking about Clem getting in a relationship though, she is still physically a child.
Anyway don't be afraid to voice your opinion, most of the people on here a good folks. As long as your opinion doesn't involve supporting pedophilia hate speech or anything like that lot of other people on here will defend your opinion if people attack it :)
I think I remember that thread and if I remember correctly I did compare it to all the Cluke threads in that it was a nice improvement seeing as it involved two consenting adults.
That's a wonderful mindset to have, AusZombie, I think you'll be a great parent.
Nah, nah, me voicing my opinion is usually this kind o… moref thing. There was a Nuke thread a while back where I had to call out a handful of people for making really cruel remarks, and luckily I got a lot of up-votes, but still. Feels a bit overwhelming.
Honestly him just babbling about Luke, defending Luke, agreeing with Luke, all that shit in episode 3 sealed the deal for me. For a while I was like "Well I like the theory but right now it's just subtext here" but now I'm like "Damn yeah he's gay he's really gay." But I don't see Luke reciprocating that. You're right--I think he'd be oblivious and it just wouldn't really be his thing even if he did realize it.
So at this point I don't see "Nuke" being a realistic possibility but I honestly do think Nick is gay. The problem is that I'm not sure if Telltale quite realizes how they set it up to look. He could have just gotten the brunt of bad characterization in episode 3. I hope that's not it but... he was pretty heavily neglected, so if this is just poor writing that's making him look like he's head over heels for Luke, I'll be disappointed but I won't be surprised.
I agree. Luke seems kind of like an oblivious guy, imo. But still, Nick's comment "You gonna tuck me in?" felt kind of subtext-y, and if it … morewere a girl saying it to a guy or vice-versa, people would've probably seen something there. I dunno.
And yeah, it would be an interesting plot point. Luke, while I think he's mostly oblivious to subtle romantic gestures, seems like the type of guy who wants to be independent and would probably move out of a relationship quickly. So even if he did notice, I can't see it happening with either of them canonically.
Yet people act like it's the same kind of depravity. It's NOT. And it's immensely offensive to even compare the two. There is nothing wrong with two consenting adult men in a relationship.
I think I remember that thread and if I remember correctly I did compare it to all the Cluke threads in that it was a nice improvement seeing as it involved two consenting adults.
Yet people act like it's the same kind of depravity. It's NOT. And it's immensely offensive to even compare the two. There is nothing wrong with two consenting adult men in a relationship.
I'm a bit offended by your implication of asexuality/aromanticness being a bad thing. It's a person's own choice if they want to engage in a sexual or romantic relationship or not, there's no shame or badness in not wanting either. And besides, not experiencing sexual and/or romantic desire is something a lot of people simply can't help, but implying that they're missing out on a great aspect of life isn't a very tactful thing to say, especially considering how oppressed and ridiculed asexuals and aromantic people are.
Personally, while I'm not asexual or aromantic, I don't see the big deal with sex or romance, and therefore I can't really see from your point of view on it being such an enriching part of life.
If you don't agree with my headcanon and you personally would like to see Clem in a relationship someday, that's fine, I don't mind. She's fictional, after all.
Forgive my ignorance, but why is not having any romantic or sexual desire a good thing? Those are pretty large aspects of the human experien… morece and not really something that I want Clem to miss out on. It's like saying you want Clem not to have a food she really likes or a hobby she's really interested in. Doesn't that make her life a little less rich? Apologies to anyone who might be offended by my assessment. I'm honestly just curious.
Well, yes. I assumed that we were talking about the cases in which people can't experience romantic or sexual desire, and not cases in which people simply choose not to. But just because someone can't help having a certain condition doesn't exclude the possibility of it being an undesirable condition.
Some people have allergies to fruits or shellfish or nuts or chocolate. It's certainly not their fault and there's no reason they should feel ashamed for having that allergy, but it would still be weird to wish that allergy upon another person. And those are just classes of food. An asexual/aromantic person would be deprived of an entire category of human interaction.
I'm not a particularly romantic person either, but I can still appreciate that the feelings that come with those romantic love can be among the most intense and profound that a person can experience. Why else would so much of our art, music, and literature be centered on those things?
Look, it's fine that your preferred headcanon involves Clem never finding love or a stable partner to share her life with. But, personally, I don't see the appeal of wishing upon her the inability to find enjoyment in one of the few attainable pleasures she has left in the world.
I'm a bit offended by your implication of asexuality/aromanticness being a bad thing. It's a person's own choice if they want to engage in a… more sexual or romantic relationship or not, there's no shame or badness in not wanting either. And besides, not experiencing sexual and/or romantic desire is something a lot of people simply can't help, but implying that they're missing out on a great aspect of life isn't a very tactful thing to say, especially considering how oppressed and ridiculed asexuals and aromantic people are.
Personally, while I'm not asexual or aromantic, I don't see the big deal with sex or romance, and therefore I can't really see from your point of view on it being such an enriching part of life.
If you don't agree with my headcanon and you personally would like to see Clem in a relationship someday, that's fine, I don't mind. She's fictional, after all.
I forgot about that. There's this huge stigma that if you make a child character anything but straight, you're "sexualizing" them, which is … moretotal bullshit and extremely offensive to LGBT+ people. The excuse that kids are too young to start questioning their orientation is BS too, I've talked to people who've said they've been attracted to the opposite gender for as long as they can remember, even before adolescence.
Hey, I'm asexual. Not aromantic, though, just ace. Some people can be both (like the Clem headcanon above), but not always. I, personally, get crushes and feel romantic affection. I can love people and relate to romantic art, music, and literature just as you can. However, sex just isn't my thing. That doesn't mean I'm allergic to it or that I'll remain celibate my whole life. It just means I'm not as into it as other folks are, and I don't need it's presence in my life to fully love someone.
I can't speak for aromantic people so forgive me for not going in depth on that, but I hope I was able to shed a little light on asexuality?
Well, yes. I assumed that we were talking about the cases in which people can't experience romantic or sexual desire, and not cases in which… more people simply choose not to. But just because someone can't help having a certain condition doesn't exclude the possibility of it being an undesirable condition.
Some people have allergies to fruits or shellfish or nuts or chocolate. It's certainly not their fault and there's no reason they should feel ashamed for having that allergy, but it would still be weird to wish that allergy upon another person. And those are just classes of food. An asexual/aromantic person would be deprived of an entire category of human interaction.
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And yeah, it would be an interesting plot point. Luke, while I think he's mostly oblivious to subtle romantic gestures, seems like the type of guy who wants to be independent and would probably move out of a relationship quickly. So even if he did notice, I can't see it happening with either of them canonically.
Nah, nah, me voicing my opinion is usually this kind of thing. There was a Nuke thread a while back where I had to call out a handful of people for making really cruel remarks, and luckily I got a lot of up-votes, but still. Feels a bit overwhelming.
So at this point I don't see "Nuke" being a realistic possibility but I honestly do think Nick is gay. The problem is that I'm not sure if Telltale quite realizes how they set it up to look. He could have just gotten the brunt of bad characterization in episode 3. I hope that's not it but... he was pretty heavily neglected, so if this is just poor writing that's making him look like he's head over heels for Luke, I'll be disappointed but I won't be surprised.
Oops.
Personally, while I'm not asexual or aromantic, I don't see the big deal with sex or romance, and therefore I can't really see from your point of view on it being such an enriching part of life.
If you don't agree with my headcanon and you personally would like to see Clem in a relationship someday, that's fine, I don't mind. She's fictional, after all.
Some people have allergies to fruits or shellfish or nuts or chocolate. It's certainly not their fault and there's no reason they should feel ashamed for having that allergy, but it would still be weird to wish that allergy upon another person. And those are just classes of food. An asexual/aromantic person would be deprived of an entire category of human interaction.
I'm not a particularly romantic person either, but I can still appreciate that the feelings that come with those romantic love can be among the most intense and profound that a person can experience. Why else would so much of our art, music, and literature be centered on those things?
Look, it's fine that your preferred headcanon involves Clem never finding love or a stable partner to share her life with. But, personally, I don't see the appeal of wishing upon her the inability to find enjoyment in one of the few attainable pleasures she has left in the world.
I can't speak for aromantic people so forgive me for not going in depth on that, but I hope I was able to shed a little light on asexuality?