Yeah, it wasn't really his plan...
I see that a lot of people are crediting Kenny for coming up with the plan to get the group out of Carver's compound. Bullshit.
Kenny's "plan" was to draw walkers to the compound through some unspecified means and then "get some guns and shoot our way out."
How, Kenneth?! HOW??!! You think Carver's just going to see a giant hoard of walkers approaching the compound and just leave a bunch of guns and ammunition unattended? No, he's going to grab all the guns and people he can, head up to the roof, and mow the zombies down.
And what good would drawing walkers do unless you had someone on the inside willing to let you into the compound to steal the guns anyway? Not to mention the ludicrous notion of just trying to "shoot your way out" through an entire compound full of people *and* an entire zombie hoard.
Kenny earned my respect with some of his actions this episode, sure. But his "plan" (if you can call it that) was the single dumbest, most recklessly vague thing I've ever heard. The only reason it wasn't doomed to failure was because Jane brought up the walker blood thing and Bonnie came over to our side. So to credit him as the mastermind behind the group's escape is just blatantly untrue.
Kenny's "plan" was to draw walkers to the compound through some unspecified means and then "get some guns and shoot our way out."
How, Kenneth?! HOW??!! You think Carver's just going to see a giant hoard of walkers approaching the compound and just leave a bunch of guns and ammunition unattended? No, he's going to grab all the guns and people he can, head up to the roof, and mow the zombies down.
And what good would drawing walkers do unless you had someone on the inside willing to let you into the compound to steal the guns anyway? Not to mention the ludicrous notion of just trying to "shoot your way out" through an entire compound full of people *and* an entire zombie hoard.
Kenny earned my respect with some of his actions this episode, sure. But his "plan" (if you can call it that) was the single dumbest, most recklessly vague thing I've ever heard. The only reason it wasn't doomed to failure was because Jane brought up the walker blood thing and Bonnie came over to our side. So to credit him as the mastermind behind the group's escape is just blatantly untrue.
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He's willing to incite action, but his escape plans were pretty destructive from the start.
It isn't even confirmed it's his real name, as Carver probably just took a guess, Kenny could also be Kennedy, or simply Kenny all along.
But I still love that name
(I don't hate on Kenny, just wanna add it there :P)
Remember Kenny's whole grab a boat plan? It was basically lets grab a boat and see what happens...
Season 1 is a massive proof of this. I ALWAYS sided with Lilly. SHE was always working for the groups well being. Kenny had the most idiotic plans and only cared about Kat and Duck, and could give two shits about what happened to Lee or the others.
In Season 2, during the Lodge attack, he made the idiotic choice to try to take on four goons all on his own, which cost Walter his life.
Mini list of times Kenny fucked up:
1. Left Shawn to die
2. Kept talking about the RV constantly
3. Wanted to live on that farm
4. Wanted to leave the motor inn
5. Wanted only him, Kat and duck fed, and didn't care about the others
6. Killed Larry without taking it up with the other group members
7. Despite Lilly trying to save the group, he wanted to leave her behind without thinking
8. Wouldn't accept the fact Duck was dying
9. Wouldn't stop the train
10. Cared only about the boat
11. Thought of Lee in the attic as just another "Larry situation" and wanted to think about killing him
12. Went to save Ben, despite the fact he constantly talked about leaving him behind
13. Was rude to Nick and Luke for no reason at the dinner
14. Wouldn't think things through when he tried to take on FOUR guys HIMSELF, which cost walter his life
15. Tried to make a plan to take on numerous guys with a gun after they arrive at the compound (Which didn't happen due to being knocked out)
16. Did not want to follow lukes plan despite it being the best one
Kenny fucks up all the time. And you all call Ben bad.
His idea at first was reckless, yes. But still better than the "sneak past the 25 or so guards with rifles" plan.
Kenny was the one who came up with the plan and it was hell'a easier than what Luke was suggesting. Jane added the idea of using the walkers insides which made it complete. If it wasn't for Kenny saying about attracting the herd then we wouldn't of got the plan of the ground. Who do you give credit to the man with the idea or the people who help the man make the idea?
1. Kenny was helping his kid, he tried to help his kid and froze up when coming to help Shawn. He was just looking out for his kid and made a bad call.
2. He kept talking about the RV because it was a useful tool for the group, it helped them escape in ep3 didn't it?
3. Living on the farm is a good idea, plenty of food, land, safety and people to protect it
4. The motor inn was a wreck and Macon was falling apart, most the town was tapped for supplies and was full of walkers, not to mention the bandit attacks
5. He was looking out for his family, can you blame the man? Even if you don't feed him he appreciates you feeding the kids like any 'real man' does in that situation.
6. He pointed out the situation and make a risk assessment, it was pretty valid and could be passed easily, Larry was a gonner with only a 1-5% chance of being revived with CPR as he needed medical equipment to stabilize the heart.
7.Well Lilly either shot a guy in the back of the head who and intended to kill a teenage boy and she didn't even consult the group which seemed like such a big deal when Kenny didn't according to you.
8.It was his son, Lilly wouldn't accept the fact that Larry was dying either, It is family, you can't just be accepting the fact that your child is dying. I'm sure it must be an awful experience and I would be the same
9. ^^
10. He was trying to get the group to safety and he had nothing left to live for but the group and his plan
11. Well he was bitten, wouldn't you do the same? He wasn't going to kill him on the spot, he was just wanting to clear things up
12. He finally realized that Ben wasn't a bad kid he just fucked up a lot. He finally forgave him and earned his redemption.He didn't have to either, the kid killed his family yet he still forgave him.
13. Nick insulted his plan and Luke was being bitchy about Clem wanting to stay with Kenny
14. He was trying to save the group unlike Luke who fled into the forest like a baby
15. I agree that was pretty stupid but we couldn't just sit there and do nothing
16. No, Kenny's plan was the one that worked and was the groups best bet
Not such a fuck up right?
Lucas is a variation of Luke though, so I think his name is just Luke.
And if Kenny wasn't named Kenneth, why didn't he say anything about it or correct Carver when he called him that? I see no reason for him not to be named Kenneth. (not directed at you skooth)
#RemeberTheBoatPlan
Also, let's not forget that the final plan *still* ended up requiring them to "sneak past the 25 or so guards with rifles." Only instead of those guards being spread out and patrolling calmly, they were haphazardly shooting into the crowd of walkers that the group was trying to sneak into. And Kenny's original plan would have *also* required sneaking past the 25 or so guards with rifles to grab the guns they would need to shoot their way out of the hoard.
#NFSULT
And you blaming Kenny for Carlos's death and Sarah's disappearance is like me blaming Luke for not shooting Carver when he grabbed the rifle.