Here's an idea: Start episode 4 IMMEDIATELY where episode 3 left off.

No time-skips, no abrupt fast-forwarding through the narrative. Just resume the action a few seconds after the last frame of IN HARM'S WAY, with Sarita holding her bloody stump/bitten hand. Show how Clementine and the others manage to escape from a parking lot crawling with walkers, instead of jumping ahead an hour later, or a day later, or a week later. Show how we save Sarita's life...IF we can save Sarita's life. Don't keep us out of the loop.

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  • I think it has to do this, honestly. I loved how they did it in season 1, with episode 4 to episode 5 being literally seconds after eachother. That would be the way to go in this case, too.
  • There hasn't been many time jumps this season, really the only one we fully know about is the 'five days later'

    Other than that, no other time jumps. Obviously some time when driving them back to Carver's camp.

    So I say we are in the clear.
  • I like that idea. Reminds me of how episode 4 of season 1 ended where episode 5 began.
  • edited May 2014
    im pretty sure there going to do this. based off the achievements. the first achievement is "got separated from the group"

    so your in the herd, and run out of it and got separated from the group (possibly escapes with only jane) and your on your own now

    the second achievement: "learned new skills" maybe while clem is on her own she learns some new stuff from jane.

    third achievement: "Returned to the meeting place"

    remember when kenny and the group were talking about a place to go to if they got split up? well i think this is that place. and remember in the "next time" im pretty sure thats the place.

    and there is also a achievement that says "back on the road"

    i think this achievement means that you are going back in the direction you were first traveling. [wellington]
    to maybe her and her group(who ever is still alive) are now going to wellington. maybe clem possibly finds Christa.
  • damn, i should call this my theory on my own theory thread.

    i wrote alot!

    im pretty sure there going to do this. based off the achievements. the first achievement is "got separated from the group" so your in t

  • Robert, I insisted they should have followed that approach from the very start of the season during the opening prologue. The fact that they did not clearly lead to a consistent pattern from then on out of constantly propelling the plot forward at a fast pace and keeping us feeling perpetually rushed. As I put it before in a response to someone:

    **"The time jump... It's just lazy writing, as was the 5 day time jump in episode 2 which could have been used for actual character development."**

    Incidentally, and on the matter of the less obvious time jumps, you've just reminded me now of something else, that things to me had begun already from the start to feel uncomfortably off and abrupt, appearing disjointed and lacking resolution, pushing me to suspect that a continuity stretching from the sharp impact and momentum of past events or a sense of connexion to them was likely to be of little importance and not much the priority. I thought it perhaps to be only a small matter that I had no call to give much notice to, but in retrospect it seems to have been quite the foreshadowing of what direction the writers had ultimately decided to take, working with this story.

    The season opened having Clementine immediately start off in safe hands once more in a relaxed atmosphere and setting and light-heartedly chatting. This came across as too disconnected and abrupt a start, given the tense, unresolved cliff-hanger note on which we ended last season. I thought for the sake of keeping things like a 'season start' freshly connected to and proceeding from that immediate aftermath and resolution, they could at least have given us an opening prologue set at the instant she finds Omid and Christa, still dazed with the shock of events fresh in her mind, and with grief breaking the news to them of Lee's death, before allowing for that momentary diffusion of tension in transitioning ahead only a few short months.

    Or better still for the sake of creating a short, suspenseful climb leading up to that point, start her off a short time before she finds and reaches them, who knows?, maybe even with a few minor preliminary obstacles leading up to that point for her to face as she wanders and makes her way. After all, the somewhat symbolic ending and final, dissonant note on which the last season concluded wasn't that of Lee's death, but of Clementine truly all by herself in the middle of a wide and empty expanse, marking a point of transition. It seems fitting for the sake of a short prologue for the writers to have picked up from that open tail end still carrying the full, packed, charge of the entire first season and conclude that segment to signal an intended continuity before then skipping ahead reasonably in time.
  • edited May 2014
    Actually there was a 16 month time jump at the beginning of season 2, after Omid died.
    TinyCarlos posted: »

    There hasn't been many time jumps this season, really the only one we fully know about is the 'five days later' Other than that, no other time jumps. Obviously some time when driving them back to Carver's camp. So I say we are in the clear.

  • > **"The time jump... It's just lazy writing, as was the 5 day time jump in episode 2 which could have been used for actual character development."**

    The abrupt beginning, the abrupt skip in time, and the abrupt conclusion of the first episode were the first signs I saw of what path this season was headed down to.

    Not to derail this thread too much, but I would enjoy hearing your overall opinion on episode three.

    Robert, I insisted they should have followed that approach from the very start of the season during the opening prologue. The fact that the

  • Fantastic post. I entirely agree with you and the OP. I think if they had done that, season 2 would be more successful than what it is now.

    Robert, I insisted they should have followed that approach from the very start of the season during the opening prologue. The fact that the

  • I would like to read your views on episode 3.

    Robert, I insisted they should have followed that approach from the very start of the season during the opening prologue. The fact that the

  • Well, that would be pretty cool if at the very beginning of episode 4 there was a hub, where you could go check on all characters, asking simple questions like:

    ''Hey Nick, you feeling good?'' or ''Rebecca, you holding up?'' and they answer yes or no, whatever the reason.

    You know, like in season 1, where you could ask 3-4 questions to almost everybody :)
  • I think it would be the best way to start the episode and then after they escape we have a hub to check if anyone is ok, it would be perfect.
  • edited May 2014
    I find it interesting with this episode--it took me rather by surprise--that it's managed to produce a healthy measure of critical discussion in the forum, more than I would have expected, to be honest, and I'm enjoying reading those when the time allows, your remarks in particular. I always find them to be well made and put forward with a level-headed attitude.

    I've excused myself from joining in the general discussion for the time being, however: still a bit spent and honestly lacking a sufficient inclination to weigh in right now about the new episode as a whole. But you're kind to ask an opinion of me, and I appreciate it, especially seeing how the general outlook on the second season that I bring is not a popular one. I'm happy you've at least already a good idea of where I'm coming from with much of those opinions in general and been able to sympathise with that point of view.

    > **"The time jump... It's just lazy writing, as was the 5 day time jump in episode 2 which could have been used for actual character de

  • Yeah. You know what else I want besides that?

    Nick having actually some spotlight
  • I was going to mention exactly what you said about the first achievement,so congrats in beating me to it.

    damn, i should call this my theory on my own theory thread. i wrote alot!

  • I think given the ending it has to. Or like ep 2 it will be about five minutes later
  • Something like what they did with the beginning of Crooked Mile, you mean?

    Yeah that would be neat.
  • :p
    Saoralba131 posted: »

    I was going to mention exactly what you said about the first achievement,so congrats in beating me to it.

  • and there was about a 8 month time jump form season 1 to season 2 because of christas belly.
    TinyCarlos posted: »

    There hasn't been many time jumps this season, really the only one we fully know about is the 'five days later' Other than that, no other time jumps. Obviously some time when driving them back to Carver's camp. So I say we are in the clear.

  • That would be great.
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