I like to play Clem as if I were in her shoes. As Lee I tried to be very nurturing, but I was also no sugarcoat-er. I was frank with her at all times, and I even killed in front of her. When she questioned me about killing Danny and Andy (indirectly or not), I told her something along the lines of "They're bad people. They had to be punished" or something like that. I thought it'd be best to prepare to get used to killing, otherwise she'd be too innocent to protect herself. Now, playing as Clem, I choose my choices based on my personality and emotions. I play in the moment, unlike people who weigh every option, or plan out what course they're going to take personalty wise. When I feel slighted, I pick based on my anger. For example, Sarah was rude in the beginning, debating whether or not to help me out while I'm on the verge of passing out from blood loss. So, I was short and curt with her. After? Well, her annoying personality made me feel negative toward her, so I now go out of my way to be mean. I wouldn't call myself evil, but it's most definitely how I would react toward her in real life.
Oh!, I getcha.
The game certainly pushes you towards it. I promised Pete and Luke that i'd protect Nick and promised Carlos i'd protect Sa… morerah. I know they are fictional, but I like to play as If i'm Clementine and develop her as the character I think she should be.
Yeah, I play in much the same way. As Lee I tried to teach her as much as possible. Caring about her, but not trying to hide her away from everything.
And as Clementine I play in much the same way as Lee taught her, with compassion and kindness, but still being willing and able to do what needs to be done when it's called for.
In regards to Sarah, I gave her the benefit of the doubt. Sarah DID NOT understand the severity of the situation (at first at least). And by episode 3 she has become a valuable friend to Clem.
I like to play Clem as if I were in her shoes. As Lee I tried to be very nurturing, but I was also no sugarcoat-er. I was frank with her at … moreall times, and I even killed in front of her. When she questioned me about killing Danny and Andy (indirectly or not), I told her something along the lines of "They're bad people. They had to be punished" or something like that. I thought it'd be best to prepare to get used to killing, otherwise she'd be too innocent to protect herself. Now, playing as Clem, I choose my choices based on my personality and emotions. I play in the moment, unlike people who weigh every option, or plan out what course they're going to take personalty wise. When I feel slighted, I pick based on my anger. For example, Sarah was rude in the beginning, debating whether or not to help me out while I'm on the verge of passing out from blood loss. So, I was short and curt with her. After? Well, her annoying personality made me feel … [view original content]
I thought she had a lot of potential from the start but I didn't really like her. After Episode 2 and 3, I started liking her for real and now her and Nick are my ingame priorities!
What? She has an anxiety disorder. She's not blind. Clem was literally bleeding out, and asking for help. Meanwhile, Sarah's worried about getting in trouble with her dad. Let's weigh the consequences. Sarah- Yelled at by dad. Clem- Dying of blood loss or risking infection. There's no way she didn't understand the gravity of the situation. And she isn't a valuable friend to me. Lol, I'm very cold and spiteful toward her and her group. I'm only nice toward Luke, but I swear he gives off pedophile vibes with how he kept staring at Clem in episode 2. I was getting uncomfortable. Especially when he gave Clem a hurt look if you chose to sit with Kenny. Then he comes and makes himself comfortable at your table, acting like he's the only one you can talk to or something. I was like, woah!
Yeah, I play in much the same way. As Lee I tried to teach her as much as possible. Caring about her, but not trying to hide her away from e… moreverything.
And as Clementine I play in much the same way as Lee taught her, with compassion and kindness, but still being willing and able to do what needs to be done when it's called for.
In regards to Sarah, I gave her the benefit of the doubt. Sarah DID NOT understand the severity of the situation (at first at least). And by episode 3 she has become a valuable friend to Clem.
The whole cabin group have grown on me,apart from Rebecca ,Sarah is a genuinely nice girl and if at first Clem was faking the friendship with her it's now a proper friendship,there both similar ages,both without parents,suppose it's the same way Clem bonded with Duck,both being kids stuck in the Z.A. ,Sarah is one of my favourite characters
I liked her from the get-go. We don't get enough mentally ill people in apocalyptic fiction who aren't murderin' psychopaths, who have interesting stories to tell, and she seems like a good match for Clem just theme-wise. Also other ways.
I never had a problem with her. It was obvious to me that she was "off", so I think it's only right to be nice to her. Especially now that Carlos is gone, I feel like it's my responsibility to protect her.
I didn't give two shits what happened to Sarah until episode 3. When i saw her get child abused by her dad, i felt bad for her, and she broke my emo wall. I started to care for her character. I would personally go look for Sarah if given the choice.
Sarah gets on my nerves a little bit, mostly since I'm annoyed at how much Carlos has tried to protect her from everything and it's only resulted in her not being emotional strong enough to cope and to be struggling as she. But Sarah really is a sweet girl, and always in my playthroughs I do have Clementine and her being friends, but I try to have Clem toughen her up too by letting her learn how to shoot a gun and stuff.
But from how I first met the character, I was convinced Sarah was a nutcase and I'd be regretting that pinky swear...I might still, but I have Clem owing her a hug now so I hope not T.T Sarah's grown on me definitely.
what? Carlos was under pressure (maybe even death) to hit her once,or let Troy hit her,it wasn't child abuse...oh boy...,you wouldn't get a better protected Dad than Carlos,flaws or not.
I didn't give two shits what happened to Sarah until episode 3. When i saw her get child abused by her dad, i felt bad for her, and she brok… moree my emo wall. I started to care for her character. I would personally go look for Sarah if given the choice.
Before episode 3 i considered her Zombie bait.
People have to take responsibility for their actions. Sure he was forced to do it, but he still did it. She was hit by him, it made me care about her. What is so hard to understand?
what? Carlos was under pressure (maybe even death) to hit her once,or let Troy hit her,it wasn't child abuse...oh boy...,you wouldn't get a better protected Dad than Carlos,flaws or not.
look at it from Carlos point of view....you don't want anyone harming your daughter,you could see the anguish on his face,hardly see how this is child abuse.
People have to take responsibility for their actions. Sure he was forced to do it, but he still did it. She was hit by him, it made me care about her. What is so hard to understand?
I agree with this.
Also, Sarah seems to be suffering from some sort of mild autism or at least is mentally under-developed. Overprotection by her dad obviously hasn't helped. I never blamed her for not being ready for the ZA world.
Another thing is that I think that she's awesome for Clem's character development. She kinda keeps Clementine grounded, sorta keeping her from losing her innocence. Whether this is good for her or not remains to be seen.
I never disliked Sarah. I didn't appreciate her putting pressure on Clementine to promise to be friends when they first met, but since then … moreSarah has proven to be a true friend. She's far from perfect and her actions sometimes jeopardize herself and/or others, but that's to be expected from a girl who was sheltered from reality for so long. Every bit of strife Sarah has felt I have shared with her. The anxiety of Carver's visit, the horror of being held captive and forced to watch her father get tortured in front of her, the heartbreak of her father hitting her, and most recently the life changing tragedy of her dad's death. I love Sarah, and I really appreciate her always being with Clem and making things less lonely and depressing, just as I'm sure Sarah appreciates Clem always being there for her to cheer her up and look after her.
look at it from Carlos point of view....you don't want anyone harming your daughter,you could see the anguish on his face,hardly see how this is child abuse.
forced child abuse? a group of thugs stood around unarmed survivors threatening to have one of their own hit her,Carlos steps up because he doesn't want them laying a hand on her.....i know he still hit her,but what was he supposed to do?
forced child abuse? a group of thugs stood around unarmed survivors threatening to have one of their own hit her,Carlos steps up because he doesn't want them laying a hand on her.....i know he still hit her,but what was he supposed to do?
Mmmm.. No, I'm not feeling it. Sarah annoys me. No matter how I approach her, she just doesn't change. I try to be her friend, she does her own impulsive thing. I try to get her to listen, she does her own impulsive thing. That's the biggest thing for me. She doesn't listen or think about things any further than a dog would. Only the most surface level details register in her mind. It wasn't "Carver is a mad man who made my dad hit me", it was "my dad hit me, now I'm sad". You get the option to spell that out, but even then, it takes a while to sink in (if it even does, as she immediately goes back to behaving the same way).
You tell her to grow up, and she goes off on a tangent about Clem getting hit as if only children get that sort of thing. I seem to recall a certain adult getting his fingers broken for going against this Carver person.
You try to tell her to be quiet during Carver's morning schlock, and she listens for about two seconds before she's right back to gibbering on. Given the option, I would have slapped her myself (not nearly as hard as Carver demanded, but still...).
I sincerely hope I have the option to just leave her lost. It may be for the best as she is in no shape to handle this world.
I may be unfair to her, but I feel this way about a lot of the cabin crew. There are only two of them that I really like (with a third that I kinda like); Pete and Nick. Pete immediately sold me on his practical, yet open-minded nature. While Luke wouldn't hear that you were bit by a dog, Pete actually looked for information to confirm or deny it. Nick's first action towards us may have been a panicked gun shot, but his first words were a sincere apology. He's a guy who can recognize his mistakes, openly admit them and show gratitude for kindness. I also like Alvin, but his role in the story is too small to be anything more, despite going down like a boss.
It's unfortunate that Sarah's upbringing is so problematic. She is annoying. She is a detriment. I don't hate her as much as you do but it's obvious that things don't reach her as quickly as Clem. I do feel sorry for her, as an observer of this story instead of immersing myself into it as Clem. If I am reading how this season is going correctly, Sarah is still alive and will meet up with the group again. She won't learn and will continue to be a detriment, leaving Clem to make a decision about her "usefulness" to the group.
I'm actually mean. I even go so far as to go out of my way to be mean. It all started when she made me promise to be her friend in exchange … morefor helping me. Like, wth? You can't just help me out of the kindness of your heart, when I'm clearly losing a s***load of blood? She even said she was my age, like she was blind or something. That really annoyed me.
My favorite part was purposely putting up a star, even though she wanted an angel. I didn't know it would matter on the game, but it was for my own delight; interesting enough, she noticed.
I never disliked Sarah. I didn't appreciate her putting pressure on Clementine to promise to be friends when they first met, but since then … moreSarah has proven to be a true friend. She's far from perfect and her actions sometimes jeopardize herself and/or others, but that's to be expected from a girl who was sheltered from reality for so long. Every bit of strife Sarah has felt I have shared with her. The anxiety of Carver's visit, the horror of being held captive and forced to watch her father get tortured in front of her, the heartbreak of her father hitting her, and most recently the life changing tragedy of her dad's death. I love Sarah, and I really appreciate her always being with Clem and making things less lonely and depressing, just as I'm sure Sarah appreciates Clem always being there for her to cheer her up and look after her.
I agree with this.
Also, Sarah seems to be suffering from some sort of mild autism or at least is mentally under-developed. Overprotection… more by her dad obviously hasn't helped. I never blamed her for not being ready for the ZA world.
Another thing is that I think that she's awesome for Clem's character development. She kinda keeps Clementine grounded, sorta keeping her from losing her innocence. Whether this is good for her or not remains to be seen.
I have a problem with not accepting new things, so for a while I would not even let myself be interested in the game in general, so I wasn't seeing it for the beauty it is. Then one day when I was about to leave the page of a youtube video of season 1 episode 2, I looked down at the video a last time quickly, and I saw Clem's face for a split second, close up, and all day after that I couldn't stop thinking about how adorable she was, I was finally letting myself realize it. But with Sarah, I don't even know what the hell happened, I hadn't paid attention to her any more than I already had from simply watching through the episodes, all the sudden I just started really loving her, and while Clem was still my main interest while watching episode 3, as Clem always will be, I regardless found myself saying "where's Sarah" every time she wasn't in a scene, the same way I'm always saying "where's Clem" every time she's not in one.
I actually disliked Clem in the beginning; go figure. It wasn't until season 1, episode 2 that I started to warm up to her. And I didn't abs… moreolutely fall in love with her character until I made to give her some food as Lee, and she asked me if I was okay when I was going to ask her that. It was so unbelievably adorable, I couldn't understand why I had felt indifferent toward her at first. Lol, to think I had ignored everything she said, choosing to keep silent to any question she asked, in the start. I think, had I not ended up feeling truly like she was my responsibility, I may have been the first person in history to have Clem completely hate them and vice versa.
So I get how you feel about Sarah. Though I must say I find her unbelievably annoying and I don't think I'll warm up to her like I did with Clem. She's useless to me, and I wonder how in the world could she ever survive in a zombie apocalypse alone? Clem can survive, I'm sure o… [view original content]
I liked her from the get-go. We don't get enough mentally ill people in apocalyptic fiction who aren't murderin' psychopaths, who have inter… moreesting stories to tell, and she seems like a good match for Clem just theme-wise. Also other ways.
(ps: Clarah OTP)
LOL zombie bait XD At first I thought maybe it was episode 3 that made me start loving her so much but I started loving her weeks before episode 3, and then episode 3 made me love her even more. Episode 3 made me start realizing how pretty she is.
As for Carlos hitting her, if I were in that situation, I wouldn't want an asshole guy like Troy or any asshole, to hit my daughter, especially because if that asshole doesn't care about my daughter, it'll be easier for him to hurt her worse, so I would rather her get a slap from my hand rather than a broken face from an asshole's hand, or weapon, as Troy proved he is not above using to hit little girls in the face.
I didn't give two shits what happened to Sarah until episode 3. When i saw her get child abused by her dad, i felt bad for her, and she brok… moree my emo wall. I started to care for her character. I would personally go look for Sarah if given the choice.
Before episode 3 i considered her Zombie bait.
I like her. as well as liked Carlos. she just need someone who is friendly and teach her how to survive in this world. I think Clem will be that person.
Me too! I just want to sit with her at a kiddie table and do arts and crafts with her, she's so friendly and sunshiny when she's not having an anxiety attack or being smacked.
I think I know why Sarah's gotten some popularity after this episode. It's because she's finally given some character development, unlike everyone else within the Cabin Crew. She was just a sheltered kid in the previous episodes, but now we see her as a troubled, fragile teen that's unprepared for even the best worst-case-scenario. We see how she reacts within Camp Carver, and how it affects her; then at the end, we're now invested to search for her. We want to know how she handles the death of her father, we want to see the extent of the mental damage it has caused her, so we can hug the living hell out of her!
You make very good points, your wording cheered me up and made me laugh! Maybe Sarah will surprise us next episode or something, until that happens though her impulsiveness will just stay at its goofy level.
Mmmm.. No, I'm not feeling it. Sarah annoys me. No matter how I approach her, she just doesn't change. I try to be her friend, she does … moreher own impulsive thing. I try to get her to listen, she does her own impulsive thing. That's the biggest thing for me. She doesn't listen or think about things any further than a dog would. Only the most surface level details register in her mind. It wasn't "Carver is a mad man who made my dad hit me", it was "my dad hit me, now I'm sad". You get the option to spell that out, but even then, it takes a while to sink in (if it even does, as she immediately goes back to behaving the same way).
You tell her to grow up, and she goes off on a tangent about Clem getting hit as if only children get that sort of thing. I seem to recall a certain adult getting his fingers broken for going against this Carver person.
You try to tell her to be quiet during Carver's morning schlock, and she listens f… [view original content]
Since she kinda pissed off and said that Clem's just a little girl, I saw the potential in her
But I still think that she'll cause lot of troubles if it happens to be that she is alive :(
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And as Clementine I play in much the same way as Lee taught her, with compassion and kindness, but still being willing and able to do what needs to be done when it's called for.
In regards to Sarah, I gave her the benefit of the doubt. Sarah DID NOT understand the severity of the situation (at first at least). And by episode 3 she has become a valuable friend to Clem.
(ps: Clarah OTP)
Before episode 3 i considered her Zombie bait.
But from how I first met the character, I was convinced Sarah was a nutcase and I'd be regretting that pinky swear...I might still, but I have Clem owing her a hug now so I hope not T.T Sarah's grown on me definitely.
Also, Sarah seems to be suffering from some sort of mild autism or at least is mentally under-developed. Overprotection by her dad obviously hasn't helped. I never blamed her for not being ready for the ZA world.
Another thing is that I think that she's awesome for Clem's character development. She kinda keeps Clementine grounded, sorta keeping her from losing her innocence. Whether this is good for her or not remains to be seen.
I don't know how else to explain this to you.
If you hit a child. It is child abuse. It doesn't matter what reason. OK
You tell her to grow up, and she goes off on a tangent about Clem getting hit as if only children get that sort of thing. I seem to recall a certain adult getting his fingers broken for going against this Carver person.
You try to tell her to be quiet during Carver's morning schlock, and she listens for about two seconds before she's right back to gibbering on. Given the option, I would have slapped her myself (not nearly as hard as Carver demanded, but still...).
I sincerely hope I have the option to just leave her lost. It may be for the best as she is in no shape to handle this world.
I may be unfair to her, but I feel this way about a lot of the cabin crew. There are only two of them that I really like (with a third that I kinda like); Pete and Nick. Pete immediately sold me on his practical, yet open-minded nature. While Luke wouldn't hear that you were bit by a dog, Pete actually looked for information to confirm or deny it. Nick's first action towards us may have been a panicked gun shot, but his first words were a sincere apology. He's a guy who can recognize his mistakes, openly admit them and show gratitude for kindness. I also like Alvin, but his role in the story is too small to be anything more, despite going down like a boss.
So yeah... Not digging Sarah in the least.
As for Carlos hitting her, if I were in that situation, I wouldn't want an asshole guy like Troy or any asshole, to hit my daughter, especially because if that asshole doesn't care about my daughter, it'll be easier for him to hurt her worse, so I would rather her get a slap from my hand rather than a broken face from an asshole's hand, or weapon, as Troy proved he is not above using to hit little girls in the face.
But I still think that she'll cause lot of troubles if it happens to be that she is alive :(