It's not fair

I don't think it's fair how Kenny is overshadowing the whole cabin group. Kenny has been in seven episodes as of now (eight if you count episode 4). He had five whole episodes of amazing character development in Season 1 with each episode being 2 hours or more unlike the hour and a half episodes in Season 2 (which makes it even worse for the cabin group) and now he stole the spotlight from the cabin group in the two episodes of Season 2 he has been in.


In Episode 1 Telltale fucked up good first impressions with the cabin group which left us with a bad aftertaste. The beginning of episode 2 started laying down a good foundation to character development which was immediately dismissed when Kenny came into the picture. Kenny stole the spotlight for the whole second half of Episode 2.


Now I thought that Episode 3 would focus on the cabin group since we were going to Carver's domain and the cabin group are familiar with the compound. I fooled myself into thinking that in Episode 3 the cabin group would prove their worth since Kenny's not familiar with the layout, you know sort of like home field advantage. I was even convinced that Luke would play a big part in our escape, but what does Telltale do instead? Telltale allowed Kenny to be the one with the plan that helps us escape Carver's camp, they let Kenny be the one who kills Carver instead of the cabin group which would've been more personal, and they grant Kenny a heroic scene in the episode. Kenny overshadowed the whole cabin group in Episode 3 which honestly bothers me. The cabin group are hardly getting any character development as it is (besides Nick), but now they're characterizing Kenny as a admirable hero? This is just disturbing...
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  • Who cares? There's no getting enough of Kenny.
  • The Walking Kenny.
  • I know right? They should change the name of Season 2 to "The Walking Dead Season 2: The Clementine and Kenny Edition".
    JonGon posted: »

    The Walking Kenny.

  • Yeah. I feel like Rebecca, Nick and Sarah are the only members of the Cabin Group who've been given a chance to develop at all - and in Nick's case, that was kind of...stalled, a bit, in episode 3. Seeing as he was hardly there.
  • The Walking Stache
    JonGon posted: »

    The Walking Kenny.

  • For a deuteragonist, Luke barely played a role in Episode 3.

    Yeah. I feel like Rebecca, Nick and Sarah are the only members of the Cabin Group who've been given a chance to develop at all - and in Nick's case, that was kind of...stalled, a bit, in episode 3. Seeing as he was hardly there.

  • Agreed, several members of the cabin group badly needed more development and this episode should have been the perfect time to do it. Focusing so much on Kenny seems like a strange choice on Telltale's part. Maybe this was for the benefit of the new crowd who isn't familiar with S1? :/
  • I agree with the majority of what you said. The cabin group has a lot of potential (mainly Nick for me) but I haven't really been able to get to know them well. I think there may have been a good two or three chances we had to speak to everyone, and I really liked those moments because you could get to know everyone and their thoughts on current events. Like you mentioned, Nick is the only character we've really gotten to know out of the whole new group, and he might even get killed off being a determinant and whatnot. I really hope in the next episode there is less focus on Kenny (even though I love the guy) and more room to get attached to new characters.
  • While I don't particularly like Kenny as a person, I do like him as character in a story. I think his arrival and involvement in episode 2 has been great. I would like more focus on the cabin crew, but I don't begrudge Kenny's involvement. Especially because this time there are a lot more characters who are willing to call him on his crap as opposed to last season.
  • edited May 2014
    Hopefully the remaining Cabin Group like Luke will be given some spotlight in the next two episodes. Which, while it would be great, would have been better when not at a point where there are only a few of them left. :/

    For a deuteragonist, Luke barely played a role in Episode 3.

  • Don't you mean, "the walking beard?"

    The Walking Stache

  • I know, right? I'm willing to bet that if the cabin group would've been given a lot more character development in previous episodes, their deaths definitely would've been sadder that it already was. For instance, I was sad about Alvin's death in Episode 3, but I know that if he had more character development I probably would've been in tears. I was more surprised about Carlos' death than sad which is why I'm upset at Telltale.

    Hopefully the remaining Cabin Group like Luke will be given some spotlight in the next two episodes. Which, while it would be great, would have been better when not at a point where there are only a few of them left. :/

  • I'm not begrudging Kenny's involvement. I just want the cabin group to receive some of the spotlight and character development.
    Evinshir posted: »

    While I don't particularly like Kenny as a person, I do like him as character in a story. I think his arrival and involvement in episode 2 h

  • edited May 2014
    I like Kenny, but everyone should be getting equal amount of spotlight instead of focusing it on one person.
    MayieChii posted: »

    Who cares? There's no getting enough of Kenny.

  • Carlos's death didn't really register until I starting thinking over the episode after I had beaten it. It caught me off guard, and so many other things happened in those last few minutes that it really wasn't memorable at that point. Carlos was a great character, but I feel like he was just there so Sarah would have a reason to snap.

    I know, right? I'm willing to bet that if the cabin group would've been given a lot more character development in previous episodes, their d

  • I'd contest that Kenny stole the spotlight from the cabin group in Episode 2, but you're right that he did in Episode 3. Now that Kenny has had his own time in Season 2, an entire Episode, I feel that it's time for him to go. Episode 4 would be a great time, as we've gotten plenty of Season 2 Kenny now, and the new characters still need time of their own.
  • "Life ain't fair Clem"
  • I'm kidding, seriously though maybe they should have a little bit less Kenny.
    Carley123 posted: »

    "Life ain't fair Clem"

  • edited May 2014
    Yup, forced down our throats and the season 2 characters development has suffered because of it.
  • edited May 2014
    Well Kenny showing up in Episode 2 was such a huge impact that a lot of people forgot about the cabin group. All most people wanted to do was talk to Kenny and stay with him. There were a lot of people complaining that we didn't get enough of Kenny in Episode 2 or wanted to talk to him more.
    Rock114 posted: »

    I'd contest that Kenny stole the spotlight from the cabin group in Episode 2, but you're right that he did in Episode 3. Now that Kenny has

  • LOL I was waiting for someone to post that quote.
    Carley123 posted: »

    "Life ain't fair Clem"

  • I wouldn't say it suffered. It's just say it's not fair always.
    SonEdo posted: »

    Yup, forced down our throats and the season 2 characters development has suffered because of it.

  • edited May 2014
    That's what I propose. They don't have to kill Kenny off, they just need to tone his role down and tone the cabin group's development up in Episode 4.
    Carley123 posted: »

    I'm kidding, seriously though maybe they should have a little bit less Kenny.

  • Yeah, but it was entirely possible for Kenny to talk to Clem for about ten minutes altogether in that Episode. You can choose to not sit with him at dinner, reducing your time with him, and surrender to Carver, also keeping Clem and Ken separate. He's gone for the entire attack by the walkers and up until the last minute of the Episode if you don't go out to find him. And of course people would demand more Kenny, he was an extremely important character in Season 1 and it would terrible if he were simply pushed aside like a determinant character in the second Season. Episode 3, in my opinion, gave the fans all the Kenny that we needed, and now he can finally die in Episode 4 and pave the way for the remaining new characters to shine.

    Well Kenny showing up in Episode 2 was such a huge impact that a lot of people forgot about the cabin group. All most people wanted to do wa

  • If we had to save luke or Kenny and Sarita was alive, I'd save luke.
    Because Kenny has been in the series sooooo long and Luke hasn't really.
    I think a choice where we have to save luke or Kenny would be nice.

    LOL I was waiting for someone to post that quote.

  • It's too bad, the cabin group really didn't get a spotlight. At this point the deaths aren't affecting me nearly as much as S1 deaths did. I was in tears during ep103 but when people died in this season's ep3 it didn't affect me nearly as much. I almost teared up when Alvin died but it was more in the moment, not because I was actually attached. And when Carlos died it took a moment to sink in, during the credits I was more mad than sad, I expected so much more from him.
  • True. That's why I think Kenny might die in some point of episode four... I don't want him to die, but chances are he'll be heroic about it.

    And this is only if they're going to end it this season... if not they might wait til' episode five of this season or next season to kill him ;_;
  • I don't think it would be fair to Luke though. So many people are attached to Kenny (even people who hated him or just didn't care about him in Season 1) and we still barely know anything about Luke. Choosing between Kenny and Luke for some people is like choosing between family and an acquaintance. Not much of a contest for some people really.
    Carley123 posted: »

    If we had to save luke or Kenny and Sarita was alive, I'd save luke. Because Kenny has been in the series sooooo long and Luke hasn't really. I think a choice where we have to save luke or Kenny would be nice.

  • edited May 2014
    Don't you find it strange that if Kenny was a character that we knew almost nothing about, he would've had more character development in Episode 3 than the whole cabin group in all three episodes?
    Rock114 posted: »

    Yeah, but it was entirely possible for Kenny to talk to Clem for about ten minutes altogether in that Episode. You can choose to not sit wit

  • I like Kenny, but if Kenny doesn't die this Season then I'm going to be pissed since it would feel like they're dragging out his character.
    _Juice_Box_ posted: »

    True. That's why I think Kenny might die in some point of episode four... I don't want him to die, but chances are he'll be heroic about it.

  • A New Kenny
    Starved for Kenny
    Long Kenny Ahead
    Around Every Kenny
    No Kenny Left

    All That Kenny
    A Kenny Divided
    In Kenny's Way
    Amid the Kenny
    No Going Kenny
    JonGon posted: »

    The Walking Kenny.

  • edited May 2014
    Seriously! It feels like Telltale are focusing on the story and narrative rather than the characters which I usually wouldn't mind, but it's a huge imbalance.
    TT247 posted: »

    It's too bad, the cabin group really didn't get a spotlight. At this point the deaths aren't affecting me nearly as much as S1 deaths did. I

  • The Walking Kenny: Season Kenny.

    400 Kennys

    A New Kenny Starved for Kenny Long Kenny Ahead Around Every Kenny No Kenny Left All That Kenny A Kenny Divided In Kenny's Way Amid the Kenny No Going Kenny

  • He's important, so not really. And the lack of character development for the cabin group isn't really his fault given that Telltale messed up Episode 1, where the cabin crew was introduced. Plus, there are two more Episodes for the cabin group, meaning that if Kenny dies in Episode 4 the show is entirely theirs. I'll begin to complain if Episode 4 is once again centered around Kenny, but I feel that he has just about the right amount of focus now that he can easily be killed off in the next Episode.

    Don't you find it strange that if Kenny was a character that we knew almost nothing about, he would've had more character development in Episode 3 than the whole cabin group in all three episodes?

  • True and I don't blame Kenny. I'm just upset that Telltale hasn't made up from their big fuck up in Episode 1. Sure I don't hate them as I did before, but I'm not nearly as attached to them as I was to Season 1 characters.
    Rock114 posted: »

    He's important, so not really. And the lack of character development for the cabin group isn't really his fault given that Telltale messed u

  • I agree about not being as attached, and the cabin crew (well, those of them that are left) really do need more characterization. I was very disappointed that I couldn't have a nice chat with Pete or Nick in Episode 1. I mean, all most of them really did was talk about killing Clem and not much else. About the only person who didn't was Pete, and he was the first to go (RIP).

    True and I don't blame Kenny. I'm just upset that Telltale hasn't made up from their big fuck up in Episode 1. Sure I don't hate them as I did before, but I'm not nearly as attached to them as I was to Season 1 characters.

  • This. I've been advocating Kenny's Season 2 death even before he was confirmed to be alive. He's got to die this Season, he's had his 15 minutes (or more precisely, 7 Episodes) of fame.

    I like Kenny, but if Kenny doesn't die this Season then I'm going to be pissed since it would feel like they're dragging out his character.

  • Carver was in Kenny's way....

    A New Kenny Starved for Kenny Long Kenny Ahead Around Every Kenny No Kenny Left All That Kenny A Kenny Divided In Kenny's Way Amid the Kenny No Going Kenny

  • I don't think Luke was talking about killing Clem, but you're right about Pete being the first one to trust Clem. God do I miss Uncle Pete. :c
    Rock114 posted: »

    I agree about not being as attached, and the cabin crew (well, those of them that are left) really do need more characterization. I was very

  • edited May 2014
    Then comes the spinoff: The Kenny Among Us.

    A New Kenny Starved for Kenny Long Kenny Ahead Around Every Kenny No Kenny Left All That Kenny A Kenny Divided In Kenny's Way Amid the Kenny No Going Kenny

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