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*** as Clementine's guardian

o0HeaDShoT0oo0HeaDShoT0o
edited May 2014 in The Walking Dead
Ever since Clementine reunited with Kenny, he seems to have officially become her guardian now. for example, he sometimes calls her "darling" like how Lee called her "sweet pea". He took a beating to the eye so that it wouldn't happen to her. Clem can speak up about not wanting to leave him, and she almost sheds a tear when she hugs him after he wakes up.

How do you people feel about Kenny being Clem's guardian now?

Because, for me, I'm perfectly fine with it. in the finale of Season 1, I had Lee say to Christa and Omid that he wanted Kenny to take care of her, and even though it took over 2 years, his request came true.
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  • USMC1786USMC1786
    edited May 2014
    He's proven to me that he would be a great guardian for Clementine since he took a beating for her and he gets pissed whenever she gets hurt


    I think this is my most liked reply yet
  • Batomys2731Batomys2731
    He's more than earned it, especially after taking the blame for Clem. He'd rather die than see Clem get hurt.
  • o0HeaDShoT0oo0HeaDShoT0o
    I'd also like to add that Kenny also says "That's my girl" to Clem. When I heard that, I actually smiled a little bit for a second.
  • SergeantSnookieSergeantSnookie
    Well, Kenny has always been one to put his family first. And Clem evidently is that family now.

    I haven't always agreed with Kenny in the past, but I'd say Lee would approve.
  • _Juice_Box__Juice_Box_
    edited May 2014
    He has the will to take care of her, and it's heart warming to know how many times he's protected her, but Kenny doesn't "think things through" as Rebecca said. Some of his ideas are dangerous and can put Clementine in danger... if he's able to start changing that however, he'd be perfect for the job. I don't dislike him, but he's had some shitty plans before...
  • OmidOmid
    Kenny is the ultimate family man. He can be an asshole and stubborn sure. But he'll do anything for his family, ANYTHING. Clem is family now, so Kenny's got our back. Also he's a total badass (now with an eyepatch)
  • OnmensOnmens
    I don't see why people give Kenny so much credit for taking the beating.
    He's the one that forced the radio on Clem to begin with.

    Had he not taken the blame he would have been the lowest of the low.
  • TinniTinni
    That's depending how you play the game. My Clem said "I'll do it", because I thought Kenny's reasoning behind the request made sense. Luke knows Clem, Clem is small so she can hide easily etc. And I already told Luke I would get him the talkie, so I figured I should follow through with my promise.
    Onmens posted: »

    I don't see why people give Kenny so much credit for taking the beating. He's the one that forced the radio on Clem to begin with. Had he not taken the blame he would have been the lowest of the low.

  • mythifiedmythified
    The beating was not about the radio. After handing the radio to Carver, Kenny stared straight into his eyes for several seconds and then called him a fucker. Carver gave him plenty of time to take his place next to Sarita and Clementine.
    Onmens posted: »

    I don't see why people give Kenny so much credit for taking the beating. He's the one that forced the radio on Clem to begin with. Had he not taken the blame he would have been the lowest of the low.

  • OnmensOnmens
    edited May 2014
    Even if you chose that option, they weren't done arguing about it yet when Troy arrived.

    And does it really make a difference if Clem agreed? As if Kenny would be less of a dirtbag if he had let Clem take the blame because she agreed with his plan.

    Taking the blame was the only thing to do either way.
    Tinni posted: »

    That's depending how you play the game. My Clem said "I'll do it", because I thought Kenny's reasoning behind the request made sense. Luke k

  • OnmensOnmens
    No, Kenny called him a fucker because Carver said "Three".
    He gave them to the count of three to hand over the radio and when carver said three he meant you're going to get a beating now anyway.
    mythified posted: »

    The beating was not about the radio. After handing the radio to Carver, Kenny stared straight into his eyes for several seconds and then called him a fucker. Carver gave him plenty of time to take his place next to Sarita and Clementine.

  • TinniTinni
    Well, to me it does because that means Clem was in on the plan and was completely willing. I'm guessing you don't like Kenny so we're probably not ever going to agree here, because I love Kenny.
    Onmens posted: »

    Even if you chose that option, they weren't done arguing about it yet when Troy arrived. And does it really make a difference if Clem a

  • TWD PDX503TWD PDX503
    no
  • kennyislovekennyislove
    If anything, Clementine is Kenny's guardian. In fact, Clementine is everyone's guardian lol.

    The whole group can't get shit done without Clem's help.
  • OnmensOnmens
    edited May 2014
    So if you hatch a plan with a little girl and it fails, having her take the fall is even an option for you? Jesus Christ.

    And hey, I hugged the hell out of Kenny later on, doesn't mean I think he's a hero for doing what he did. He did the only sensible thing.
    Tinni posted: »

    Well, to me it does because that means Clem was in on the plan and was completely willing. I'm guessing you don't like Kenny so we're probably not ever going to agree here, because I love Kenny.

  • OnmensOnmens
    Now this I can agree with.
    kennyislove posted: »

    If anything, Clementine is Kenny's guardian. In fact, Clementine is everyone's guardian lol. The whole group can't get shit done without Clem's help.

  • BelanBelan
    I don't think Clementine really needs a guardian anymore, but its nice to have Kenny protecting her.

    My Lee wanted Kenny to look after her after he died. Looks like he is kind of getting his wish.
  • mythifiedmythified
    Well it looked in my game that carver was just standing there and didn't start hitting Kenny until after Kenny called him a fucker. Carver knew that he would have plenty of opportunities to give Kenny beat-downs.
    Onmens posted: »

    No, Kenny called him a fucker because Carver said "Three". He gave them to the count of three to hand over the radio and when carver said three he meant you're going to get a beating now anyway.

  • OnmensOnmens
    No, he was teaching the group a lesson then and there.
    mythified posted: »

    Well it looked in my game that carver was just standing there and didn't start hitting Kenny until after Kenny called him a fucker. Carver knew that he would have plenty of opportunities to give Kenny beat-downs.

  • BelanBelan
    They mutually benefit each other.
    kennyislove posted: »

    If anything, Clementine is Kenny's guardian. In fact, Clementine is everyone's guardian lol. The whole group can't get shit done without Clem's help.

  • kiwi_walking_deadkiwi_walking_dead
    Bring it on, I say. He's a better candidate than the rest of the group. After what he did for Clem, and the fact he has always cared about her, he definitely qualifies to be her guardian.
  • BelanBelan
    edited May 2014
    The entire point was that Carver was going to beat someone if he didn't get the radio in his hand before he counted to 3. Even after getting the radio, he counts off the 3rd second. That was the entire reason why Kenny called him a fucker. Do you really think Kenny would be stupid enough to just randomly incite Carver for no reason?
    mythified posted: »

    Well it looked in my game that carver was just standing there and didn't start hitting Kenny until after Kenny called him a fucker. Carver knew that he would have plenty of opportunities to give Kenny beat-downs.

  • BelanBelan
    Just because what he did was sensible doesn't mean it can't also be seen as heroic.
    Onmens posted: »

    So if you hatch a plan with a little girl and it fails, having her take the fall is even an option for you? Jesus Christ. And hey, I hu

  • TinniTinni
    edited May 2014
    I never said it was an option I would choose, but in the end he still didn't have to take the fall for it, even though it is the sensible thing to do. He could've just stayed quiet, but he didn't. That's why I respect him for what he did. I don't think anyone else would've had the guts to take the blame.
    Onmens posted: »

    So if you hatch a plan with a little girl and it fails, having her take the fall is even an option for you? Jesus Christ. And hey, I hu

  • OnmensOnmens
    Yeah, I just don't see staying quiet as an option, sorry.
    Maybe even especially for Kenny. He's a man that can't handle guilt whatsoever as he's shown many times in the past.

    Ehm, it's just not an option in my book. We'll have to agree to disagree.
    Tinni posted: »

    I never said it was an option I would choose, but in the end he still didn't have to take the fall for it, even though it is the sensible th

  • mythifiedmythified
    YES!!! All of season 1 and season 2 Kenny has been shown to be not too bright and hot headed. Don't you get it? He almost got Clementine and Mike killed by walkers in the shoe store because of his stupidity and hot temper.
    Belan posted: »

    The entire point was that Carver was going to beat someone if he didn't get the radio in his hand before he counted to 3. Even after getting

  • BitesizedBitesized
    I also said I wanted Kenny to look after her, so I am really happy that he has taken on the roll. He has lost so much already poor guy.
  • BelanBelan
    edited May 2014
    We have no idea what the two were even arguing about, so that example means nothing. Its also not even close to being a direct comparison.

    You're the one that isn't understanding this dude. Telltale would not have Kenny randomly insult Carver. That would be stupid and anticlimatic. Even if you don't think Kenny is smart, there is no way on earth he is stupid enough to do what you think he did.
    mythified posted: »

    YES!!! All of season 1 and season 2 Kenny has been shown to be not too bright and hot headed. Don't you get it? He almost got Clementine and Mike killed by walkers in the shoe store because of his stupidity and hot temper.

  • TinniTinni
    That's just it though, staying quiet for Kenny is never an option. He's not a coward, he owns up to his shit and is brave enough to do what needs to be done. Staying quiet is always an option, but not for Kenny. That's why so many people are commending him for taking the fall for Clem. But ok, let's agree to disagree.
    Onmens posted: »

    Yeah, I just don't see staying quiet as an option, sorry. Maybe even especially for Kenny. He's a man that can't handle guilt whatsoever a

  • mythifiedmythified
    edited May 2014
    Okay, You are sent to strengthen a wall so that walkers can't break through. you can see and hear walkers tearing at the wall. do you:

    A: repair the wall so the walkers can't break through it.

    B: argue with the guy you are working with and push him against the weak wall that the walkers are trying to get through
    Belan posted: »

    We have no idea what the two were even arguing about, so that example means nothing. Its also not even close to being a direct comparison.

  • OnmensOnmens
    If Kenny hadn't been involved in the plan I would have called it heroic. But he was atleast as responsible for the radio as Clem was. In my opinion even a lot more.

    Taking the blame for your own actions isn't being heroic.
    Belan posted: »

    Just because what he did was sensible doesn't mean it can't also be seen as heroic.

  • AngreePandaAngreePanda
    I am perfectly fine with Kenny being her guardian. To me it works out better that way that she keeps a strong relationship and bond with Kenny. I mean Kenny to her sort of brings back the essence of Lee still being around. Unfortunately we had to see Lee go but when I saw Kenny the first time it was like a weight was lifted from her shoulders. Of course we all know that Kenny does have the potential to drop a ton of weight on her shoulders or head lol. With the quick changes Clem was experiencing from losing Krista and finding Luke and his group, it was hard for me to trust anyone. So seeing Kenny brought that safe feeling back. Sure it isn't Lee but Kenny also had a good relationship with Lee to be just enough for Clem to get a little more comfortable with her new group.
  • BelanBelan
    edited May 2014
    I don't see why not, depending on the situation. Even if it was morally right for him to take the blame, it still was very brave. He still did a good thing, even if the alternative would have been scum-baggish.

    Also, In my playthrough I had Clem insist on having the radio, so it's not like Kenny had forced it on her or anything. I think its fair to speculate this is how it went down for most other people as well.
    Onmens posted: »

    If Kenny hadn't been involved in the plan I would have called it heroic. But he was atleast as responsible for the radio as Clem was. In my opinion even a lot more. Taking the blame for your own actions isn't being heroic.

  • OnmensOnmens
    I think I'm going to have to make the same deal with you as I did with Tinni.

    Agree to disagree?
    Belan posted: »

    I don't see why not, depending on the situation. Even if it was morally right for him to take the blame, it still was very brave. He still d

  • BelanBelan
    I guess so :)
    Onmens posted: »

    I think I'm going to have to make the same deal with you as I did with Tinni. Agree to disagree?

  • TinniTinni
    edited May 2014
    I don't think that was the wall they were working on because it wasn't a wall, it was a window. After Kenny let Mike away from the window, the board covering it fell down. Yeah Kenny should've kept his cool, but I'd pretty damn pissed off too if I had a safe place with my loved one to stay, fit with electricity, only to have it all taken from me, and get kidnapped due to another groups problems that both a little girl and I had nothing to do with. Scratch that, I'd be monumentally pissed off.
    mythified posted: »

    Okay, You are sent to strengthen a wall so that walkers can't break through. you can see and hear walkers tearing at the wall. do you:

  • BelanBelan
    edited May 2014
    Has nothing to do with anything. Still not a direct comparison to what we're talking about. Not even going to argue the point.
    mythified posted: »

    Okay, You are sent to strengthen a wall so that walkers can't break through. you can see and hear walkers tearing at the wall. do you:

  • OnmensOnmens
    I seem to remember having an argument with you in a Lilly thread a while back that just went on and on.
    I learn from my mistakes. :)
    Belan posted: »

    I guess so :)

  • mythifiedmythified
    edited May 2014
    That scene was to show that Kenny's temper and lack of wit causes him to be a danger to the people around him. It is just like in the truck ride to the camp, he comes up with a hair-brained scheme that fails miserably instead of listening to the carver group who suggested they wait until getting to the camp to make any plans.
    Belan posted: »

    Has nothing to do with anything. Still not a direct comparison to what we're talking about. Not even going to argue the point.

  • BelanBelan
    edited May 2014
    If that's how you saw the scene... well then more power to you I guess. Again though, I'm not going to argue otherwise because it doesn't really have anything to do with the Carver-Kenny scene. The Kenny-Carver scene has nothing to do with Kenny being hot-headed or not.

    Listen to the way Kenny says "Heh, fucker". He doesn't sound angry what so ever. It was him knowing what was coming next...
    mythified posted: »

    That scene was to show that Kenny's temper and lack of wit causes him to be a danger to the people around him. It is just like in the truck

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