Yes it does. that scene and many others were about showing that kenny's lack of forethought and bad temper is eventually going to get people hurt or killed. That is what the whole episode emphasized. It was stressed over and over in the episode, I can't understand how you missed it. I believe they are setting it up so something that Kenny does is going to cause disastrous consequences for the group.
If that's how you saw the scene... well then more power to you I guess. Again though, I'm not going to argue otherwise because it doesn't re… moreally have anything to do with the Carver-Kenny scene. The Kenny-Carver scene has nothing to do with Kenny being hot-headed or not.
Listen to the way Kenny says "Heh, fucker". He doesn't sound angry what so ever. It was him knowing what was coming next...
What I really liked about Kenny this episode was that when Clem disagreed with him or told him to calm down he actually seemed to listen to her most of the time. I haven't seem him do that with anyone before, not even Kat.
Then again, if he had treated Clem like he used to treat Lee when he diagreed with him he would be in a heaps of trouble.
Disagreeing with him seemed to calm him down a bit while agreeing with him only got him more wound up.
I think it's Clem's job to disagree with Kenny as often as possible.
I think you're literally the only person I have come across who doesn't understand what was happening in that scene. There was nothing in that scene that indicated that Kenny was angry. And even if he HAD responded in an angry fashion (he didn't), it was because he knew that Carver was about to beat the shit out of him. There is no denying that at all.
Yes it does. that scene and many others were about showing that kenny's lack of forethought and bad temper is eventually going to get people… more hurt or killed. That is what the whole episode emphasized. It was stressed over and over in the episode, I can't understand how you missed it. I believe they are setting it up so something that Kenny does is going to cause disastrous consequences for the group.
I don't think 'guardian' is the right word... Kenny is essentially family to Clem now. He might make rash decisions at times, but he's exactly what Clem needs right now :)
No Kenny wasn't angry in that scene. He gave no indication that he was angry. Was saying what he said to Carver the smartest thing he could have done? not really. When Carver counted to 3 he pushed Kenny's button. Kenny didn't like it and pushed back. Carver then displayed his authority over Kenny with the beat-down. Watch their eyes during that scene. You'll see it in Carvers eyes just after he counts to 3, then watch Kenny's eyes change just before saying fucker. I have a good understanding of what was happening in that scene. Replay it or watch a video of that scene and watch their eyes, you'll see what I mean.
I don't understand why you're ignoring basically everything I'm telling you..
I think you're literally the only person I have come acro… moress who doesn't understand what was happening in that scene. There was nothing in that scene that indicated that Kenny was angry. And even if he HAD responded in an angry fashion (he didn't), it was because he knew that Carver was about to beat the shit out of him. There is no denying that at all.
Again, everything depends on how you play the game. How you played as Lee and how you play Clementine strongly affect the way things go or could be perceived.
In my S1 playthrough, where Lee disagreed with almost everything Kenny did, but helped him with his family, Kenny never did shit for Clem. They hardly knew each other. Yeah, Kenny may take a beating for her, but that's all he's done.
As far as I'm concerned, Clem doesn't need a guardian.
I've watched the scene a lot. You're misinterpreting the whole thing.
Why would Carver saying the word "three" just randomly push Kenny's buttons? That's ridiculous. And again, Kenny did not say what he said in an aggressive or angry manner. He KNEW what was coming next.
Do you not understand the whole point of Carver counting off the 3rd second? It was essentially him saying "I'm going to beat the shit out of you anyway". THAT is why Kenny said what he said. Look at Kenny's facial expression as soon as Carver says "three". It's a look of shock/fear. Again, because he knows Carver is about to punish him.
No Kenny wasn't angry in that scene. He gave no indication that he was angry. Was saying what he said to Carver the smartest thing he could … morehave done? not really. When Carver counted to 3 he pushed Kenny's button. Kenny didn't like it and pushed back. Carver then displayed his authority over Kenny with the beat-down. Watch their eyes during that scene. You'll see it in Carvers eyes just after he counts to 3, then watch Kenny's eyes change just before saying fucker. I have a good understanding of what was happening in that scene. Replay it or watch a video of that scene and watch their eyes, you'll see what I mean.
in all gamplays carver counts to AFTER Kenny gives him the walkie. you probably one of those people that hate Kenny ( I don't care if you its a video game your choice not to like something) and just hear what you wanna hear.
The beating was not about the radio. After handing the radio to Carver, Kenny stared straight into his eyes for several seconds and then called him a fucker. Carver gave him plenty of time to take his place next to Sarita and Clementine.
Carver can read people, that is how he controls them. He counted to three telling kenny I control things here, the "count of three" is called when I decide. He knows that kenny hates not being the one in control of things. Kenny stares at him. Carver gives a "test me" look to kenny. Then Kenny gives a "fine, asshole" look back. It was all about beating Kenny into submission, the only thing the radio had to do with it is that is the weapon Carver used. But you will see only what you want in your Kenny-colored glasses, just like Tinni above when I talked about the shoe store incident and Tinni said that wasn't the wall they were repairing even though the other three were solid walls, you are doing the same here.
I've watched the scene a lot. You're misinterpreting the whole thing.
Why would Carver saying the word "three" just randomly push Kenny… more's buttons? That's ridiculous. And again, Kenny did not say what he said in an aggressive or angry manner. He KNEW what was coming next.
Do you not understand the whole point of Carver counting off the 3rd second? It was essentially him saying "I'm going to beat the shit out of you anyway". THAT is why Kenny said what he said. Look at Kenny's facial expression as soon as Carver says "three". It's a look of shock/fear. Again, because he knows Carver is about to punish him.
110% speculation on your part, and you continue to ignore any and all evidence given that shows why you are wrong. Some people are so impossible, not sure why I waste time even responding to you. Like I said before, you are LITERALLY the only person I have come across that does not understand this scene.
It was painfully obvious that Carver was about to beat the crap out of Kenny (or at least punish him in some form). There is a reason why Kenny looked fearful/shocked as soon as Carver said "three". Telltale didn't do that for no reason. Come on.
Carver can read people, that is how he controls them. He counted to three telling kenny I control things here, the "count of three" is calle… mored when I decide. He knows that kenny hates not being the one in control of things. Kenny stares at him. Carver gives a "test me" look to kenny. Then Kenny gives a "fine, asshole" look back. It was all about beating Kenny into submission, the only thing the radio had to do with it is that is the weapon Carver used. But you will see only what you want in your Kenny-colored glasses, just like Tinni above when I talked about the shoe store incident and Tinni said that wasn't the wall they were repairing even though the other three were solid walls, you are doing the same here.
No, I don't let my like or dislike of a character cloud my judgement I am able to view things from other perspectives as well as my own. I don't consider my views to be always right and then rigidly hold on to them. I don't like Kenny's personality. I would avoid being around someone like Kenny when possible. I don't view Kenny as a bad person, he has a lot of issues.
There is a Common Thread that runs throughout this episode, that started with Carlos telling Kenny "Rash decisions have consequences..." and continued to the point where Carver tells Kenny "You have a thick skull Kenneth". The scene of Carver beating Kenny is a part of that Thread. If that scene wasn't part of the Thread, then it is a pointless display of gratuitous violence.
I think that TT is setting up a scene where Kenny's "rash actions" and hot temper are going to end with dire consequences for other members of the group and will possibly cause Kenny's death. I could be wrong, I will have to wait until ep. 4 or 5 to find out. If you ever replay this episode or watch a playthrough, pay attention to how many times Kenny's lack of forethought or hot temper are mentioned or displayed.
"in all gamplays carver counts to AFTER Kenny gives him the walkie." You are right I don't contest that fact. Carver's counting to three was a display of his dominance and telling Kenny "I control you". If you don't believe that Kenny hates others to control him than YOU are the one who sees only what you want to see.
in all gamplays carver counts to AFTER Kenny gives him the walkie. you probably one of those people that hate Kenny ( I don't care if you its a video game your choice not to like something) and just hear what you wanna hear.
Did you miss what he did to Carver? Carver deserved to die, but Kenny took it to the extreme. I Love Kenny but right now i am a little worried him going nuts and getting someone hurt/killed. So i would have to say no, not at this point in the game.
I'm in the 'Clem doesn't need a guardian anymore' camp. Kenny might see her as a daughter figure, but I think she's past specifically needing father-figures or guardians, and more about just having people she can trust, rely on, and open up to.
No, I don't let my like or dislike of a character cloud my judgement I am able to view things from other perspectives as well as my own. I d… moreon't consider my views to be always right and then rigidly hold on to them. I don't like Kenny's personality. I would avoid being around someone like Kenny when possible. I don't view Kenny as a bad person, he has a lot of issues.
There is a Common Thread that runs throughout this episode, that started with Carlos telling Kenny "Rash decisions have consequences..." and continued to the point where Carver tells Kenny "You have a thick skull Kenneth". The scene of Carver beating Kenny is a part of that Thread. If that scene wasn't part of the Thread, then it is a pointless display of gratuitous violence.
I think that TT is setting up a scene where Kenny's "rash actions" and hot temper are going to end with dire consequences for other members of the group and will possibly cause Kenny's death. I co… [view original content]
I laughed so hard after reading your comment. It reminded me of what Kenny said in the truck "I don't know what you're sayin', but I know it's bullshit". That line cracked me up. It is my favorite Kenny quote after "you know...because you're...urban"
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Then again, if he had treated Clem like he used to treat Lee when he diagreed with him he would be in a heaps of trouble.
Disagreeing with him seemed to calm him down a bit while agreeing with him only got him more wound up.
I think it's Clem's job to disagree with Kenny as often as possible.
I think you're literally the only person I have come across who doesn't understand what was happening in that scene. There was nothing in that scene that indicated that Kenny was angry. And even if he HAD responded in an angry fashion (he didn't), it was because he knew that Carver was about to beat the shit out of him. There is no denying that at all.
S1 Clem not equal S2 Clem.
In my S1 playthrough, where Lee disagreed with almost everything Kenny did, but helped him with his family, Kenny never did shit for Clem. They hardly knew each other. Yeah, Kenny may take a beating for her, but that's all he's done.
As far as I'm concerned, Clem doesn't need a guardian.
Why would Carver saying the word "three" just randomly push Kenny's buttons? That's ridiculous. And again, Kenny did not say what he said in an aggressive or angry manner. He KNEW what was coming next.
Do you not understand the whole point of Carver counting off the 3rd second? It was essentially him saying "I'm going to beat the shit out of you anyway". THAT is why Kenny said what he said. Look at Kenny's facial expression as soon as Carver says "three". It's a look of shock/fear. Again, because he knows Carver is about to punish him.
It was painfully obvious that Carver was about to beat the crap out of Kenny (or at least punish him in some form). There is a reason why Kenny looked fearful/shocked as soon as Carver said "three". Telltale didn't do that for no reason. Come on.
There is a Common Thread that runs throughout this episode, that started with Carlos telling Kenny "Rash decisions have consequences..." and continued to the point where Carver tells Kenny "You have a thick skull Kenneth". The scene of Carver beating Kenny is a part of that Thread. If that scene wasn't part of the Thread, then it is a pointless display of gratuitous violence.
I think that TT is setting up a scene where Kenny's "rash actions" and hot temper are going to end with dire consequences for other members of the group and will possibly cause Kenny's death. I could be wrong, I will have to wait until ep. 4 or 5 to find out. If you ever replay this episode or watch a playthrough, pay attention to how many times Kenny's lack of forethought or hot temper are mentioned or displayed.
"in all gamplays carver counts to AFTER Kenny gives him the walkie." You are right I don't contest that fact. Carver's counting to three was a display of his dominance and telling Kenny "I control you". If you don't believe that Kenny hates others to control him than YOU are the one who sees only what you want to see.