There should have been a third choice.

edited May 2014 in The Walking Dead
I think, instead of being able to choose whether to watch Kenny kill Carver or to leave, we should have had a third option.

To shoot Carver in the face.

Throughout the episode Carver tells us we are like him, and we see that Kenny essentially becomes like him in that he kills as cruelly as he can, he doesn't just do it quick and painlessly.

My Clem wouldn't want to watch that happen, nor would she want to let Kenny do that to him. She wanted to shoot him in the face to show that actually she was BETTER than Carver. She was the bigger person.

I'm a bit sad that we didn't have this option, but at least we don't have to watch it. My has Kenny changed.

Comments

  • I sort of agree. I mean, I did watch Carver die, but I instantly regretted it. I wasn't thinking so much about Clementine at the time, and was just thinking about how I personally wanted to see him die... not because I enjoy it, just because I wanted to see him die as a way to make sure he was taken care of and wouldn't be coming back. As soon as Clementine looked sort of scared and then looked down on Carver with her evil face... I was genuinely scared.
  • edited May 2014
    I don't know why people are so disgusted with Kenny about this. I mean this is the third time he's destroyed someones face, if we count both Larry and the statue in the attic.

    But I do see where you're coming from. I think I would have liked a third option, too.
  • I don't know...

    I'm generally turned off to all the 'humanity' talk in this forum. As even current world events (for instance Syria), people are plenty capable of being cruel and 'inhumane' to one another, and it's a false dichotomy to distance ourselves from things we find repulsive, even those in the same situation we may very well do the same thing. It's a psychological defense mechanism.
  • Technically speaking, you DO have the option to shoot him in the face. He just doesn't die...
  • Lee ruined that dude's face in my playthough, not Kenny! :D

    I don't know why people are so disgusted with Kenny about this. I mean this is the third time he's destroyed someones face, if we count both

  • I wasn't that fussed about Kenny doing it, because my moral in life is "eye for an eye", What you do to others is how it should be done to you. So for example, a person bashes a dog, then that person deserves to be bashed. Carver tricked Kenny into given the radio back and beat him to a pulp where the mans eyesight in one of his eyes could be lost. I think it's fair to say that Kenny had every right to bash his skull in. Shooting him would be the easy way out for Carver. I think Carver actually does hit Clem in the episode am i right? So i think it's fair to say that she deserves to see him get his face caved in. If you play where he doesn't hit her, i see your point.
  • Either way, I really wish Omid made it to Episode 3, just so he could say that line again.

    Lee ruined that dude's face in my playthough, not Kenny! :D

  • I totally agree. Carver deserved to die but not in that way, it's cruel and it proves that Kenny can be just as ruthless as Carver when he wants to. A quick bullet in the head would have suffice.
  • He will make a suprise return in episode4..." Omid the ruins "!

    Either way, I really wish Omid made it to Episode 3, just so he could say that line again.

  • I give this my official seal of approval.

    He will make a suprise return in episode4..." Omid the ruins "!

  • edited May 2014
    Honestly, Telltale probably thought that this scene would cause more people to be shocked by Kenny.

    They did mentioned the meatlocker before this episode came out (a scene that was highly discussed) and Sarita said something like 'That is not the Kenny I know, I thought that I could save him'.

    (I am just guessing though)
  • It wasn't Clementines decision to kill Carver. Carver killed Alvin and fucked up Kenny. They were the one that decided that.
  • Am I the only one who didn't give a fuck how he died?
  • edited May 2014
    They must have thought that the crowbar-scene was reminiscent to the meat-locker scene, but they failed to realise that they don't have that much in common other than brutal deaths.

    Kenny killing Larry was shocking because the player had a choice of killing a comatose and defenceless man in front of his daughter begging you to help her, along with an innocent little girl who may or may not see the killing blow.

    Kenny killing Carver wasn't shocking, because while Larry was a well intentioned jerkass, Carver was pure scum. No one would cry for his brutal death at the hands of those he tortured.

    Honestly, Telltale probably thought that this scene would cause more people to be shocked by Kenny. They did mentioned the meatlocker b

  • As disturbing as it was to have Clem watch Kenny kill Carver, I wanted the option to have her murder him herself too. And when asked why she wants to be the one to shoot him, there could be dialogue options like "Because Kenny's way is going too far," "I'm the one who got him in this situation, so it's my responsibility" or "Vengeance." That way, it opens up several different developments for Clementine, it could be an even darker turn than her watching Carver die or it could be a moment where she steps up to do the necessary but still humane thing.

    I think part of it might be that the writers feel it's too early to make Clementine a murderer, as if she kills the stranger it's more of an impulsive thing than something she thinks about and decides to do and the death of Lee was a mercy-killing. If so, I just hope she does get the chance to do the deed herself to somebody else who needs to die later on.
  • edited May 2014
    I agree.
    The situations are not much alike.
    I don't see Kenny as anything less, even though a bullet would have been enough.

    It just seems that Telltale wanted to make Kenny look like he would lose it (with what Sarita said and all that) but the 'audience'
    actually sympathized with Kenny, and therefore interpreted the scene as anything but Kenny losing it.

    Man, the irony.
    RichWalk23 posted: »

    They must have thought that the crowbar-scene was reminiscent to the meat-locker scene, but they failed to realise that they don't have that

  • edited May 2014
    There was an option to tie him up I don't know what happens if you choose it but I am pretty sure Kenny still beats the shit out of him. But I think if you picked that option you should of tied him up and used him as bait for the Walker's outside that would of been pretty cool.
  • Eye for an eye logic doesn't work here, as that would mean Carver would be left alive by Kenny.
    Mrwalto69 posted: »

    I wasn't that fussed about Kenny doing it, because my moral in life is "eye for an eye", What you do to others is how it should be done to y

  • I'm sure you're not the only Kenny fan who didn't.
    Moowtje72 posted: »

    Am I the only one who didn't give a fuck how he died?

  • 'Give a bit of yourself to save other people'

    'THIS IS NOT HOW THE WORLD WORKS NOW'-- Lee after not killing Danny St John.

    This sums up how I feel about this. I did NOT want Carver to die knowing I was like him. I wanted a third option of tie him up and throw him to the walkers for a distraction. Maybe Carlos would have lived..
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