If you do not like the way TellTale's way of doing things, then stop playing. Do you think that the thought of a petition, signed by 28 peop… morele who say they love the game, are going to change the way they do things. Where there a few of you complaining, there are millions more who like what they put out. If you are crying and complaining after every episode or the time it takes for episodes to come out, then that can mean only one thing....you have no life beyond Telltale Games and this forum. And for that you have my pity. Do you own TellTale? Did they ever promise you anything more than the best product they can put out? Answer:No. If you get this upset about the time between episodes, I would hate to see how childish you become when waiting for the next graphic novel or the TV show. And let's say your petition got their attention and they said "Well if they do not like the way we are handling the Walking Dead, let's just drop the game all… [view original content]
I don't care now, I'm gonna be the bigger man and walk away, you created an account here to cause trouble. So bye, all aboard the hype train for the trailer.
Yes, but they set that up as what we could expect, and haven't been close to it yet.
Regardless of if the episodes have technically been "delayed", can we all agree that there is a larger gap between episodes than there was for Season One, and that even with a larger gap we are getting short episode, yes? So, agreeing to that, which is a fact, it's not too far off to draw the conclusion that they need to either grow their company, or simply learn to deal with multiple licenses at once, probably both.
That statement was what we came to expect, and as of that time frame, they've been 2-3 weeks "late" each time.
Regardless of if it is technically "late", we are in fact waiting longer for shorter episode than what was in Season One. This is a problem, or at least a clear drop in efficiency. Therefore we can draw the conclusion that they either need to grow their company, learn to deal with developing multiple games(which they'll probably be doing fairly consistently now), or most likely both.
I think they shot themselves in the foot with that statement and should have stated something more realistic. If there is no date they fail … moreto keep though it can't be described as late. Episode three was released two months after episode two by definition that is bi-monthly.
Yes, but they set that up as what we could expect, and haven't been close to it yet.
Regardless of if the episodes have technically bee… moren "delayed", can we all agree that there is a larger gap between episodes than there was for Season One, and that even with a larger gap we are getting short episode, yes? So, agreeing to that, which is a fact, it's not too far off to draw the conclusion that they need to either grow their company, or simply learn to deal with multiple licenses at once, probably both.
So they're lying to us? They are official developers and workers of the company, I don't think they make false promises just to shut us up, … moreI just think they're too nervous handling 4 games, and they have to keep giving "updates" so we won't die of boredom.
Simply stating I am wrong does not prove I am wrong. Yes, because there has been no theorizing or use of logic in any of my posts has there.
The content is art. But, we aren't strictly talking about the content are we? As the discussion is regarding their current design process and how you believe that impacts what they are making. Walking Dead season two might be art but you are also talking about the canvas that painting is on.
You're dead wrong, I at leat theorize and infer, you can't even bring logic into your statements.
Now listen closely,
THIS.
… more IS.
NOT.
SCIENCE.
All of the things you're saying relate to the topics of religion, science, in those topics you actually NEED a proof.
This is art, we critic it, you're being a smart mouth by saying "There's no actual proof"
You know what that reminds me of?
Holocaust deniers! Even though EVERYONE know that something happen, there are always those persistent people that say "it's all an act!"
The truth is known, even if there's no "proof"
You want proof? GO ASK THEM YOURSELF!
They still have the 4-6 weeks statement on their website. Its misleading when it takes twice as long as that now. They should replace it with a 8-10 weeks statement.
They still have the 4-6 weeks statement on their website. Its misleading when it takes twice as long as that now. They should replace it with a 8-10 weeks statement.
lol so you're comparing something as huge as cartoon network to telltalegames' company? im pretty sure 200 followers is a lot more to telltale than 11000 is to cartoon network.
How about we have more episodes too?
I feel like five isn't enough, they could do soo much more with more episodes and you will be able to… more get deeper into the story line and they can have more detail. This may take longer to produce, yes. But it would be worth it.
Lol why are people complaining about the time? As long as they tell a great story then it shouldn't matter. Plus they said time length can be added if you take the time to interact with the surroundings. A petition isn't going to do anything. They want to get TWD and TWAU done before the Summers over because the other games coming out. Plus They did tell the truth about the 400 days cast. They said they'll play a role in 203. They never said they were gonna play a huge role in 203. 204 they will return in the survive the attack trophy. You can decide to side with them or not. Either way they'll end up siding with you and the remaining cast will go to Wellington with you. 204 we'll probably see Nate too.
It's ok for the game to start resembling more to movies and stuff, but the people here personally want the old design back.
That means hubs, richer plot and dialogue, relationships you can build and break, that stuff.
I won't stop playing the game though, as I said, I love it, but I think Telltale is going to lose money over this kind of stuff, and I actually think it's not intended, but a change they had to do because they're short on time. I guess we can just ask them what made the episodes so short, but we will play the game no matter what happens.
I just think it's not the way they wanted season 2 to be you know? I think this is all a result of them getting more and more licenses to make more games, while having a really small crew to handle everything.
I know you're joking, but I'm not demanding anything, this is all criticism intended to help them to improve, and I believe that they had a lot planned out, but they changed it due to the short length (I remember hearing about them changing the plot, I think it was supposed to be more detailed but then they shortened it to have more time to work on GoT and Borderlands).
And yeah you're right, I think it's always like that with people, we complain about new things, but I never complained about season 1, and I think that the quality really went down, even if it's still good.
The thing (I think) we're all angry about is the fact that we expected episodes like we got in season 1 (which were incredible), but we got way shorter and way less detailed episodes for season 2. Again, this is all due to the company's tight schedule.
I agree with what you say, but we're not demanding anything, we're requesting, and I think that they didn't intend season 2 to come out like that.
That's the thing though. I know games and stories are different things. But some things apply to everything. :) Gone Home is a short experie… morence, isn't it? I've not tried it, but that is what i've heard. People have also praised it if I'm right.
But yes, I have no problem with the points you've raised. While I may disagree because I have no real issue with the season, you're not simply complaining because of the length. It's the 'overall' product. That's totally fine, though I guess the complaints are partly occurring because of the length. And the 'not played the game part' was definitely not aimed at you, so no need to justify anything. I was mostly just speaking generally, and regarding all sorts of games. Not just Telltale's stuff. :)
I really do think though, as much as you say you love the games, that you and others should just accept the 90 minute 'movies' or not play the games in the future if you don't like them. This isn't … [view original content]
I said I wouldn't reply more and that is so. We can go round in circles, saying the same things over and over again without changing anyone's views. So, I'll just quickly say that while it may not be people's intention, a petition can be taken as though the petitioners are demanding change.
I do get it though, you see the petition as a way of getting Telltale to acknowledge your issues with the season, rather than using it as a way to demand change. But I think they're well aware of the issues anyway.
So yeah again, I appreciate the civil discussion. I just don't see much point in continuing it now, as I think we've both said as much as we can.
It's ok for the game to start resembling more to movies and stuff, but the people here personally want the old design back.
That means … morehubs, richer plot and dialogue, relationships you can build and break, that stuff.
I won't stop playing the game though, as I said, I love it, but I think Telltale is going to lose money over this kind of stuff, and I actually think it's not intended, but a change they had to do because they're short on time. I guess we can just ask them what made the episodes so short, but we will play the game no matter what happens.
I just think it's not the way they wanted season 2 to be you know? I think this is all a result of them getting more and more licenses to make more games, while having a really small crew to handle everything.
I know you're joking, but I'm not demanding anything, this is all criticism intended to help them to improve, and I believe that they had a lot planned out, but they ch… [view original content]
Simply stating I am wrong does not prove I am wrong. Yes, because there has been no theorizing or use of logic in any of my posts has there.… more
The content is art. But, we aren't strictly talking about the content are we? As the discussion is regarding their current design process and how you believe that impacts what they are making. Walking Dead season two might be art but you are also talking about the canvas that painting is on.
I find your lack of proper grammar...disturbing. You shouldn't offend people's IQ when you come off, sounding like a complete fucking idiot. Many people have actually commented, saying that they would wait even longer for more content inside of an episode, including myself, proving your...theory, wrong.
Petitions aren't childish, it's like saying democracy is childish, we have our legal right to show our opinions and they have the option to refuse, but it's not childish.
You have a point, but "90 minutes" isn't a source of the problem here, lack of focus is the real issue and run time isn't going to fix it. I… morem sorry but no.
My point is that if TT would change the run time, they wouldhave done it with out this childish petition.
Your 1,7K named petition they would forced them to do it sure, BUT they wouldn't do it cause THEY want to do it, they would do it cause they got complains from fans and and then there's danger of dragging unnecessarily the episode. TT also starts to think "how we make these episode longer?". They should ask them selfs, "how we can make these episode more interesting and more compelled"
Anyway, take my like cause you still had a point with your 1,7k and it might work.
Ps. And if this petition would be called "make more focused game" im still would hesitate to sign it cause it is very childish act.
It's not only about the length, it's also about how the length is affecting the content and about how we wait 3 months for 90 minutes of so called "gameplay".
but it's childish, if they isn't listened us here, 1,7k petition isn't change that.
And "90 minute" still isn't an issue, it isn't a pe… moretition how TT doing wrong to the this "interactive story".
Its petition cause of the length, and if they would add 30 minutes to game it would change the lack of focus.
And petition states that TT have abandoned all "HC" fans to make room to the new fans? What, how lazy writing and lack of character development attracts them. And again how half an hour or hour fixes this? You think after this "1.7" petition they just going to throw games script to a oblivion and write/add ton more development and story? Im sorry, you going to need to make petitions description more mature and over 1.5 million names.
Well I hope you get your answer. Unfortunately as I mentioned elsewhere there is nothing which forces them to do so and if you want them to take notice with your petition you want a lot more than 200 signatures.
No, I didn't see you used any logic besides "There's no proof".
Look, as you said now, we can't know for sure, so let's go ask them, why not? Let's hope they give us an answer about it.
Wrong, episode 2 came out on March 4th, and episode 3 came out on May 15th, so it's more than 2 months, so if you wan to be technical they did have a delay of 9 days.
I think they shot themselves in the foot with that statement and should have stated something more realistic. If there is no date they fail … moreto keep though it can't be described as late. Episode three was released two months after episode two by definition that is bi-monthly.
Wrong, episode 2 came out on March 4th, and episode 3 came out on May 15th, so it's more than 2 months, so if you wan to be technical they did have a delay of 9 days.
That's not really an example is it? The closest I can think of would be when they stated Episode two is just around the corner which was still far too vague to communicate anything specific.
Ok, the words aren't 100% the same but it was something like this:
"Hey everyone! We hear you!" yadda yadda yadda "ep 3 is coming out super soon!"
That was 2 weeks before another tweet, and about a month before the release.
Sixth time? You've not proven me wrong at any point so far.Yes, I can't prove what I have stated is the case. At the same time you have not … moreproven anything either. You've stated your opinion on the situation and made deductions based on that. That does not automatically prove that assessment. The lack of other reasons also does not automatically prove what you are claiming either.
Its not bad to change things. Change is good.
The could try it. See how it works out for everyone.
I don't mind the it being an episod… moree game, but id like a few more.
Its half way through this season and I feel like we've barely touched the surface yet.
And hopefully the seasons of the game will go on for a while.
I'm not ready for it to end yet, I feel like its barely begun. Ending it now would be devastating.
It's not my petition, and I'm not forcing them anything, we can tweet it to them or something, maybe if they'll say what I said they do, people will join us and sign the petition.
Well I hope you get your answer. Unfortunately as I mentioned elsewhere there is nothing which forces them to do so and if you want them to take notice with your petition you want a lot more than 200 signatures.
Yeah what episode sir?
Unless you stood there for 15 minutes I doubt it was 3 hours.
Even episode 4 wasn't 3 hours at the most it was … morenear 2 and a half.
Also, think of it from telltales view..
They are working on 4 games and are waaaaaay too busy because there team is waaaaayyy to small to handle 4 games.
So they shortened the episodes because of that reason, it's there fault to do a dumb game like tales from the borderlands and it's screwing the other games over. But making it longer isn't really a big option for them I don't think. But I'll sign your petition because I think its good to support each other.
That's not really an example is it? The closest I can think of would be when they stated Episode two is just around the corner which was still far too vague to communicate anything specific.
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Regardless of if the episodes have technically been "delayed", can we all agree that there is a larger gap between episodes than there was for Season One, and that even with a larger gap we are getting short episode, yes? So, agreeing to that, which is a fact, it's not too far off to draw the conclusion that they need to either grow their company, or simply learn to deal with multiple licenses at once, probably both.
Regardless of if it is technically "late", we are in fact waiting longer for shorter episode than what was in Season One. This is a problem, or at least a clear drop in efficiency. Therefore we can draw the conclusion that they either need to grow their company, learn to deal with developing multiple games(which they'll probably be doing fairly consistently now), or most likely both.
The content is art. But, we aren't strictly talking about the content are we? As the discussion is regarding their current design process and how you believe that impacts what they are making. Walking Dead season two might be art but you are also talking about the canvas that painting is on.
That means hubs, richer plot and dialogue, relationships you can build and break, that stuff.
I won't stop playing the game though, as I said, I love it, but I think Telltale is going to lose money over this kind of stuff, and I actually think it's not intended, but a change they had to do because they're short on time. I guess we can just ask them what made the episodes so short, but we will play the game no matter what happens.
I just think it's not the way they wanted season 2 to be you know? I think this is all a result of them getting more and more licenses to make more games, while having a really small crew to handle everything.
I know you're joking, but I'm not demanding anything, this is all criticism intended to help them to improve, and I believe that they had a lot planned out, but they changed it due to the short length (I remember hearing about them changing the plot, I think it was supposed to be more detailed but then they shortened it to have more time to work on GoT and Borderlands).
And yeah you're right, I think it's always like that with people, we complain about new things, but I never complained about season 1, and I think that the quality really went down, even if it's still good.
The thing (I think) we're all angry about is the fact that we expected episodes like we got in season 1 (which were incredible), but we got way shorter and way less detailed episodes for season 2. Again, this is all due to the company's tight schedule.
I agree with what you say, but we're not demanding anything, we're requesting, and I think that they didn't intend season 2 to come out like that.
But thanks for being calm and collective.
I do get it though, you see the petition as a way of getting Telltale to acknowledge your issues with the season, rather than using it as a way to demand change. But I think they're well aware of the issues anyway.
So yeah again, I appreciate the civil discussion. I just don't see much point in continuing it now, as I think we've both said as much as we can.
Look, as you said now, we can't know for sure, so let's go ask them, why not? Let's hope they give us an answer about it.
See?
"Hey everyone! We hear you!" yadda yadda yadda "ep 3 is coming out super soon!"
That was 2 weeks before another tweet, and about a month before the release.
If you want to know once and for all, try and contact them, until then, this is the most valid assumption.
Even if it's fake, the tweet you talked about was about a month before the release, maybe 3 weeks, and I don't think that:
around the corner = 3/4 weeks
around the corner is something you say when something is really close, and even if it's vague, 1 month away is not "around the corner"