Of course people are gonna love a sadist in GTA. YOU'RE a fucking sadist in GTA. I would've laughed at Carver's death if it had happened in GTA. TWD is supposed to lead you in the opposite direction.
Nate is an incredibly complex character. There are instances where you understand his thought process, and others where you wonder if he's e… moreven present in his own mind at all. All we really know about him is that Eddie shot his friend, and he chased them down to get revenge. A reaction I can completely understand. Enter Russell, and you would never know that he'd lost anyone, he puts up a very good front of the classic misogynistic pig, but I am of the few that believe that's a coping mechanism he uses to deal with, well, everything really. Nate saves Russell, and you think he's a good guy until you meet the couple in the diner. He looks absolutely nuts, the Nate we saw before is gone, and he genuinely wants to kill the couple. And we don't know why, or what caused this sudden shift to blood lust. No, he's not the nicest character, nor is he particularly a good guy, but there's just something about him that is pulling me in, I, for one, find … [view original content]
I guess you can compare it to a Accident or a Force of Nature. Everybody says its horrible and bad to watch but they won't turn their Heads away from it. And he's a Antagonist. Many People are simply more interested in those as in the ones with good Nature.
I don't see what he did, was wrong. Some guys talk about girts in a non flattering way, it is part of life.. Kill the old people, well they started it. I'm not trying to justify it, i don't see it as wrong, i have the DayZ mindset in the ZA.
That's not an excuse for Nate's behavior. Russell's not his drinking buddy, they're complete strangers to each other. I think his issue is m… moreore than just loneliness or social ineptitude. Russell could be his replacement goldfish, sure, but again, it's no excuse.
I like Nate, but I don't try to justify his actions or romanticize him. Nate is, objectively, a misogynist. And while some people may disagree, I think he's a total creep. I don't believe he's a sociopath like some people have theorized, but he's got an issue for sure.
Russell's story is my absolute favorite and I thought Nate was a great villain. It was frightening and entertaining and all played out reall… morey well, like something out of a Quentin Tarantino film. But regardless of how well he's written, Nate's still a huge disgusting creep and if he returns I hope Jane shoots him in the dick, too.
It has nothing to do with survival with the fittest, they shot first so they're a threat, When they were captured, they were pretty much dead anyways, so if Nate wants to kill them whatever. It isn't like i knew them or something, so i could care less.
I liked Nate because he oozed personality, he's colourful, funny, playful, laidback, yet sadistic. Just an interesting and well presented character. I'd kill to play a Nate dlc, but most would find him too unrelatable. I'd love to see a lot more of him.
And then they claim that it's because a "gurl is weaker". Well, if some muscular 7'10" guy would beat me up, no one would care, even though I'm also much weaker than him.
You got to consider her a living person. That's it. You're either living or your not. You ain't little, you ain't a girl, you ain't a boy, you ain't strong or smart. Your alive.
And then they claim that it's because a "gurl is weaker". Well, if some muscular 7'10" guy would beat me up, no one would care, even though I'm also much weaker than him.
Nate was a dangerous psychopath.
He would smile at you, just as easily as shoot you dead.
Anyone who likes a character like that, and I mean this respectfully, may wish to take a step back and 're-examine their character.
Really? don't you think that's a bit drastic? There's a lot of villainous characters people enjoy across all mediums of art from games to books to films. Just because you don't have the same morals as a character doesn't mean you can't enjoy them, that's a very limited way of viewing things, the idea that you can only like what is the same as yourself. For example I like Frank Underwood in "House of Cards", I know he's a power hungry sociopath, but I enjoy the characters outlook because of the fact it's so different to mine. Villains provide range of perspective, something to morally compare against, and to provide what every drama needs, conflict.
Nate was a dangerous psychopath.
He would smile at you, just as easily as shoot you dead.
Anyone who likes a character like that, and I mean this respectfully, may wish to take a step back and 're-examine their character.
Sheesh, why are people talking about Nate as if he's a raging pedophile? It's not like the dude will jump anyone's bones, or else he'd have banged that hot granny.
You do have a good point.
My point mainly is, to be careful about what kinds of character's one allows himself to like.
It's important to be careful as to what a person feeds their mind on.
Cause what we feed our minds on, will often dictate how we act and re-act.
Really? don't you think that's a bit drastic? There's a lot of villainous characters people enjoy across all mediums of art from games to bo… moreoks to films. Just because you don't have the same morals as a character doesn't mean you can't enjoy them, that's a very limited way of viewing things, the idea that you can only like what is the same as yourself. For example I like Frank Underwood in "House of Cards", I know he's a power hungry sociopath, but I enjoy the characters outlook because of the fact it's so different to mine. Villains provide range of perspective, something to morally compare against, and to provide what every drama needs, conflict.
Well I know where you're coming from the idea that someone could say they relate to him, which would indeed be weird and it would imply a weak and highly suggestable mind to begin with but other than that you just can't beat a good old fashioned bad guy, they add so much to a story, if they're well written of course. One of my favourite villains of all time would be Iago in Shakespeare's "Othello", such a great blueprint to create any good bad guy from, one that seems trustworthy, admirable, and your best friend but underneath boils a sea of anger, vengeance and bile.
You do have a good point.
My point mainly is, to be careful about what kinds of character's one allows himself to like.
It's important t… moreo be careful as to what a person feeds their mind on.
Cause what we feed our minds on, will often dictate how we act and re-act.
I think Nate will have gone to Wellington in search of some tail.
"The hunger a man's got for a woman, is all we got left now. No laws, no jobs, ain't nothing that make us men. But they ain't eaten all the women yet."
Sheesh, why are people talking about Nate as if he's a raging pedophile? It's not like the dude will jump anyone's bones, or else he'd have banged that hot granny.
Hey, wait, he DID bang her. Hah.
Well, Wyatt and Eddie are potheads, so that explains that.
Nate... At first he's trying to coax a connection out of Russel, like from one experienced man to a young man. Who knows, Nate might have just been the kind of guy who had fun by visiting bars for drinks and casual nights with women. One thing is for certain, he's a womanizer(not of children), whether he's good or sucks balls at it, and he's crazy. Maybe gone crazier since the declaration of Zombieland independence. I'd like to see him fill a role as a villain. I personally want him to come back because I want to hear him talk. He's not a good guy, but he's a good villain, if that makes sense. It's his jokes and casual spirit I like, not his moral character.
Kenny does horrible things all the time, but that is because he is "rash." and he gets away with it.
Nate does one thing and now he is freaking Hitler. I don't see the world black and white, like you do.
You need to |"re-examine" this character because if you did, you would see it is stupid to judge a character on 15 minutes of screen time.
Nate's character is me. I act just like him. Who knows how i would act in the ZA.
Nate was a dangerous psychopath.
He would smile at you, just as easily as shoot you dead.
Anyone who likes a character like that, and I mean this respectfully, may wish to take a step back and 're-examine their character.
Sheesh, why are people talking about Nate as if he's a raging pedophile? It's not like the dude will jump anyone's bones, or else he'd have banged that hot granny.
Hey, wait, he DID bang her. Hah.
Well, Wyatt and Eddie are potheads, so that explains that.
Nate... At first he's trying to coax a connection out of Russel, like from o… morene experienced man to a young man. Who knows, Nate might have just been the kind of guy who had fun by visiting bars for drinks and casual nights with women. One thing is for certain, he's a womanizer(not of children), whether he's good or sucks balls at it, and he's crazy. Maybe gone crazier since the declaration of Zombieland independence. I'd like to see him fill a role as a villain. I personally want him to come back because I want to hear him talk. He's not a good guy, but he's a good villain, if that makes sense. It's his jokes and casual spirit I like, not his moral character.
I'm glad you understand where I am coming from.
And I'll admit a colorful bad guy can add much to the story.
Like the Joker from the 1989 film Batman.
Though I will say I though Christian Bale is a better Batman, when it comes to the Joker nobody does it like Jack!
Another villain I thought was memorable was Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin in Spider-Man.
Well I know where you're coming from the idea that someone could say they relate to him, which would indeed be weird and it would imply a we… moreak and highly suggestable mind to begin with but other than that you just can't beat a good old fashioned bad guy, they add so much to a story, if they're well written of course. One of my favourite villains of all time would be Iago in Shakespeare's "Othello", such a great blueprint to create any good bad guy from, one that seems trustworthy, admirable, and your best friend but underneath boils a sea of anger, vengeance and bile.
My point mainly was, in a survival situation, whether in a "fantasy world" like TWD, or in the "Real World", you do not have to become the bad guy in order to survive.
You can still be virtuous, while being smart and cautious.
Herschel on the tv series proved that.
Anyone who thinks they have to become a bad guy to survive, may want to re-examine their character and beliefs.
As far as Kenny goes, his brutally murdering Carver was wrong.
However, in light of all the harm Carver had done, if kept alive he would've just come after the group again, and was therefore to dangerous to be kept alive.
Since he was already crippled and defenseless, the best thing would've been to just leave him for the walkers.
Carver wanted Kenny to kill him.
Cause he knew that in that moment, Kenny would be acting just like he would.
That kinda deviousness is Satanic.
And unfortunately Kenny took the bait, through Carver's taunts.
And thus Kenny gave Carver power over him.
When someone is able to influence someone to commit either good or bad, they are to, in effect, have control over that person.
Not giving someone like that what they want, takes not only a cool-level-head, but also strong character.
I don't think this mistake on Kenny's part automatically makes him a bad guy.
I think Kenny can still find redemption.
And hopefully he does.
Sometimes in a survival situation, and in life, hard decisions do have to be made.
However there has to be lines.
If moral lines are not kept, people become like animals.
I think this absolutely hilarious.
Kenny does horrible things all the time, but that is because he is "rash." and he gets away with it… more.
Nate does one thing and now he is freaking Hitler. I don't see the world black and white, like you do.
You need to |"re-examine" this character because if you did, you would see it is stupid to judge a character on 15 minutes of screen time.
Nate's character is me. I act just like him. Who knows how i would act in the ZA.
I think Kenny's character and Nate's character aren't that much different. People aren't black and white. It is the zombie Apocalypse, and those people shot at you first. Personally i wouldn't care what Nate did to them, i don't know them personally so it wouldn't mean anything to me.
My point mainly was, in a survival situation, whether in a "fantasy world" like TWD, or in the "Real World", you do not have to become the b… moread guy in order to survive.
You can still be virtuous, while being smart and cautious.
Herschel on the tv series proved that.
Anyone who thinks they have to become a bad guy to survive, may want to re-examine their character and beliefs.
As far as Kenny goes, his brutally murdering Carver was wrong.
However, in light of all the harm Carver had done, if kept alive he would've just come after the group again, and was therefore to dangerous to be kept alive.
Since he was already crippled and defenseless, the best thing would've been to just leave him for the walkers.
Carver wanted Kenny to kill him.
Cause he knew that in that moment, Kenny would be acting just like he would.
That kinda deviousness is Satanic.
And unfortunately Kenny took the bait, through Carver's taunts.
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He would smile at you, just as easily as shoot you dead.
Anyone who likes a character like that, and I mean this respectfully, may wish to take a step back and 're-examine their character.
Hey, wait, he DID bang her. Hah.
My point mainly is, to be careful about what kinds of character's one allows himself to like.
It's important to be careful as to what a person feeds their mind on.
Cause what we feed our minds on, will often dictate how we act and re-act.
"The hunger a man's got for a woman, is all we got left now. No laws, no jobs, ain't nothing that make us men. But they ain't eaten all the women yet."
Nate to Russell quote.
Nate... At first he's trying to coax a connection out of Russel, like from one experienced man to a young man. Who knows, Nate might have just been the kind of guy who had fun by visiting bars for drinks and casual nights with women. One thing is for certain, he's a womanizer(not of children), whether he's good or sucks balls at it, and he's crazy. Maybe gone crazier since the declaration of Zombieland independence. I'd like to see him fill a role as a villain. I personally want him to come back because I want to hear him talk. He's not a good guy, but he's a good villain, if that makes sense. It's his jokes and casual spirit I like, not his moral character.
Kenny does horrible things all the time, but that is because he is "rash." and he gets away with it.
Nate does one thing and now he is freaking Hitler. I don't see the world black and white, like you do.
You need to |"re-examine" this character because if you did, you would see it is stupid to judge a character on 15 minutes of screen time.
Nate's character is me. I act just like him. Who knows how i would act in the ZA.
And I'll admit a colorful bad guy can add much to the story.
Like the Joker from the 1989 film Batman.
Though I will say I though Christian Bale is a better Batman, when it comes to the Joker nobody does it like Jack!
Another villain I thought was memorable was Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin in Spider-Man.
You can still be virtuous, while being smart and cautious.
Herschel on the tv series proved that.
Anyone who thinks they have to become a bad guy to survive, may want to re-examine their character and beliefs.
As far as Kenny goes, his brutally murdering Carver was wrong.
However, in light of all the harm Carver had done, if kept alive he would've just come after the group again, and was therefore to dangerous to be kept alive.
Since he was already crippled and defenseless, the best thing would've been to just leave him for the walkers.
Carver wanted Kenny to kill him.
Cause he knew that in that moment, Kenny would be acting just like he would.
That kinda deviousness is Satanic.
And unfortunately Kenny took the bait, through Carver's taunts.
And thus Kenny gave Carver power over him.
When someone is able to influence someone to commit either good or bad, they are to, in effect, have control over that person.
Not giving someone like that what they want, takes not only a cool-level-head, but also strong character.
I don't think this mistake on Kenny's part automatically makes him a bad guy.
I think Kenny can still find redemption.
And hopefully he does.
Sometimes in a survival situation, and in life, hard decisions do have to be made.
However there has to be lines.
If moral lines are not kept, people become like animals.