"We're more alike than you think"...Amid The Ruins, lies evil
I don't really understand what Carver meant when he said this to Clementine. Maybe in Episode 4, we will see are more evil, psychotic Clementine starting to emerge? The EP 4 title card seems to imply her slipping either into insanity or something more darker. Unless, Jane convinces her to rub blood on her face.
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Carver does have a point, but at the same time he doesn't. Clem is strong, but not a murder like carver.
And by the end of the episode I nearly agreed with Carver. I stayed and watched Kenny kill him after saying "Just shoot him", and I didn't hesitate to tear into the walker guts and smear myself. Whether its Clementine trying to talk some sense into Sarah or Carver giving the whole group a speech, the overarching theme seems to be that tough is all we got now or else we die.
"We're more alike than you think" was NOT a good thing. Watching Carver get killed is just the genesis of a new Carver.
It's hard to tell man! but Clem has already lost much of her humanity during S01. but she never lost her sense of justice and her love for those who are closest to her. Carver's death really was nothing new to her at all.. That's why Carver saw potential on her. the difference is that Carver uses violence and brutality to impose his motivations and subjugate others. Clem only uses violence to defend herself and to survive in this world. she is not a psychopath.
I think that Clementine/Player will be forced to make a decision...that will make us look like something that Carver would've done...
Like that watch...stole it...knew it was a bad thing...returned it to Nick good thing...I dont even...this game is sometimes screwin' with me...
But I guess some also lack the imagination to understand they are role-playing a small girl, and would have her acting like their favourite FPS persona if they could.
No, he was suggesting that she has something ruthless in her. And right now 75% of Clementines are leaning that way.
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Clem: I want mushroom pizza
Druggie: Shrooms huh?
"Noooooooo! Oh God please nooooooo! NOOOOOOOOOO!"
In the short term Clem leaving the group would be for the best, but at the end of the day she is still only 11 years old and cant even fire a rifle without it knocking her on her ass. She shines in season two because she has people watching her back. Remember how helpless she was in the forest by herself. That dog bite would have killed her. She is strong willed and smart but alone she is vulnerable.
Watching him die doesn't prove anything. It'll only make Clem stronger.
It's kinda silly anyway to try and shelter her from this kind of stuff now, after all this time. She's seen much worse before, and she still does every day. My Lee never sugarcoated anything for her, and she did appreciate his honesty back then.
Carver meant that they are alike in the sense that they are fit to be leaders, and that they aren't afraid of making tough calls. He is right in that, but his way of leading is wrong.
If Clem can still hold onto her humanity and compassion if she were to grow up, it would be enough to prove Carver wrong.
While Carver opresses and controls the weak, Clem should seek to protect and work with them. To look after the ones she cares about.
For example, if Kenny weren't there to kill Carver, he would have come after the group again, this time after blood. He even said he was willing to kill his own kid before letting them escape again. Clem has to understand that someone in the group has to play that role if it means it will be for the best of the ones she cares about. She has to be able to make those tough calls in extreme situations where other people are unable to. If Kenny hadn't been there, and they took up Luke's suggestion to let Carver live, they'd have signed their death sentence.
That does not mean she will turn out like Carver and start murdering people accusing them of being weak of character for not picking berries the right way...
In fact, at the moment she IS definitely stronger-willed than Carver. She hasn't let herself go yet.
Despite all the crap she's gone through in season 1, she still managed to maintain her sense of justice and care for other people.
She's always been a kind-hearted, brave kid.
I agree with you. Kenny did some fucked up shit, but Clem cant afford to be a child anymore. The kids who stay kids die or get people killed. Duck, Ben, Sarah, and even Clem are guilty of that. When her group falls apart she is going to be alone in a world full of cannibals, rapists, and survivors who cant afford to give a fuck about her. My choice to have her watch isnt going to win any morality points, but hopefully it will harden her enough to help her survive when the friends she depends on are gone.
That would be nice, I would like to see an evil Clem, but for story's sake, keep her the way she is.