Do you think Kenny will...
Turn into Walter White on Breaking Bad?
Go from protagonist to antagonist?
I think Kenny will continue to be a good guy.
I honestly don't see Kenny breaking bad, if you will.
Yes Kenny's done some bad things.
But then again who hasn't?
Even Lee killed a man, though Lee's was a crime of passion, whereas Kenny's was more out of revenge.
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I think he'll just become even more extreme in the lengths he'll go to protect his 'family.' (which...if Sarita is done for as many suspect, is basically just Clem.)
He's always been a pretty grey-area character in that regard, I don't think that will change.
For some reason I think Kenny will take it upon himself to take care of Rebecca's baby (because she will probably die in childbirth). He is really the only adult man in the group, excluding Luke, whose always on the run, and Nick, who isn't fit to take care of a child (I think). So I think he will protect Clem and the baby with his life.
I actually agree with that.
Kenny has that nature about him.
And if Sarah turns up ok, I think she'll be included in that.
Kenny will be wearing the pants in the group now that Carlos has died. Carlos filled that role when Pete died. Now Kenny's a third generation leader (pirate).
As long as he keeps his godlike stache, he will be fine
Don't forget Mike, although he'd probably just tell the baby to shut up when it's crying at night and put a pillow over his head to block out the noise. :P
On a more serious note, if Rebecca dies in childbirth, taking care of the baby probably won't be an issue for much longer unless we have a baby formula run like in the show, so somehow I doubt they're going to go that route. Anything's possible, though.
Aww, dammit. You spoiled Breaking Bad for me...kinda
that's not really spoiling...that's actually the whole premise XD
Well, i didn't know. I just began watching it without knowing anything about it at all :c
well it's pretty much the premise of the show : it's about a chemistry teacher who "breaks bad" and decides to cook meth to pay for his cancer treatments. It sounds just alright on paper, but trust me, it's well worth it ! Best show ever ( yes, even better than the Walking Dead TV Show )
Yeah, I kinda get the idea now. I'm up to episode 6 of season 1. So far, its looking awesome!
it has a kinda slow build up ( and a lot of breakfasts llol ) but the payoff is well worth it ! I'm one of the few who never really mind slow pacing because that's just more realistic that way. Shit never hits the fan right away in a story or even in life, so why should it in a tv series or movie ? Anyway you're in for a hell of a ride man ! "Science Bitch !" XD
Kenny is a very responsible man.
He's the type of man who gives a lot of himself.
Like Daryl, Kenny is not gonna let that baby die.
He's gonna do all he can to keep it and Clementine alive.
Lol, @ the breakfasts. yeah, I completely agree on that, I can't wait
SO THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM!
It would completely ruin his entire character if he turned bad. I'd hate it if it happened. It wont though. He has already protected Clem in ep3.
I forget why, but I really liked that show. I think it ended on time (without jumping the shark as it were), but for me, the best part was the relationship between Walter and Jesse, seeing how that evolved as the series went along...
I don't think that will happen. And I don't think Walter was an antagonist, more an anti-hero.
Then again, I can see Kenny theme being somewhere along the lines of "Baby Blue."
I don't know, I don't watch that show. I get a slight Governor vibe from him though (It isn't just the eye either).
Well, I've always seen Kenny as an anti-hero. He does his share of "good" things, but he's too rash and stubborn to think beyond himself and those closest to him. I can't see him turning evil, per se, but he's going down a dark road. It will be interesting to see if he shows any remorse next episode. Back in season one, I kept faith in him, largely because I could see how heavily Kenny's action weighed on his his mind, despite his attempts to justify them. It remains to be seen whether he will have any regrets over what he did to Carver.
I couldn't really see him going a villainous route and actively working against the group. He's not a schemer, he's more of a go-with-his-gut kind of guy and when bad things happen as a result, it's not really because that's what he intended to do. He can be mercenary with people that aren't in his inner circle, but he's extremely loyal and protective to those that are, and I think at his core, he's a good guy trying to navigate his way through a shitty world as best he can. He seems to genuinely regret having to make hard decisions, although that doesn't prevent him from making them.
Also, he's more the, 'screw you, you can get left behind then' type when people disagree with him and not the terrorize/intimidate/injure/kill type characteristic of Carver and the Governor.
He'll become the new Governor. Duh.
Rick Grimes from the TV-series is more likely to take this role, however, personally i don't think anything a person does would make them into an antagonist, considering all of them do it to survive. Sure it's a matter of moral that defies what is right and what is wrong, but i believe most of these completely fades away in an apocalyptic world like the walking dead.
A quote from the Governor: "In this life now you kill or you die. Or you die and you kill."
Best comment on the whole forum.
I couldn't have expressed, or explained the type of guy Kenny is any better myself.
I especially like where you said: "He's a good guy trying to navigate through a shitty world as best as he can."
In fact, when you think about it, that pretty much describes all of us really, most of us are just trying to get from one day to the next.
Great Job!
It wouldn't ruin his character: it's been constantly stressed how he's changing ever since episode 2.
That's character GROWTH, not character ruin.
Well the fact that he's 'good guy trying to navigate through a shitty world' is just the same nearly every single character in the walking dead, so it isn't really saying anything:
The important bit is HOW you navigate the world, and lots of characters have managed it without causing nearly the amount of upset and bloodshed that Kenny has.
He usually has good intentions, but he overreacts more than most (threatening to kill Larry in the drug store) and is very vengeful (leaving Lee to die under a door if he doesn't help him murder Larry) in a way that most survivors, such as Clem, Bonnie, Sarita, Walter, Carlos etc. just...aren't.
Thanks! Funnily enough, I can be pretty critical of Kenny in general and I'm pretty firmly onboard the Luke train in any future versus decisions, but I respect the complexity of Kenny's character and can understand where he's coming from even as I frequently disagree and have my issues with him. I feel all sorts of ways about Kenny depending on the day, which I think is definitely a testament to the strength of the character.
I genuinely think that he will slowly descend into darkness and become a bad person. He seems to be mentally scarred from Season 1, and he has always had an overprotective side to those he counts as his family and a ruthless streak to those who threaten them. He could put people in serious danger, and he definitely has a dark side
You do make a fair point, when talking about how others have managed to navigate through TWD, without causing as much bloodshed and upset that Kenny has caused.
However, to quote an old proverb: "There is no such thing as perfect actions, there are only perfect intentions."
Take that for what it's worth.
I myself am just the opposite, whereas I'm on Kenny's side when it comes to making decisions, generally speaking.
We were pals in the first season, and are still pals even now.
However, though I do not agree with Luke for the most part, I do respect his character.
Luke is a good guy.
And in some ways even agree with him on certain things.
Especially when it came down to killing Carver.
Even though I was in agreement that Carver deserved to die, and was to dangerous to be kept alive, Kenny's reasons for wanting him dead, though reasonable, I did not agree with.
Kenny killed him in anger, and after what happened to him, I felt he was to emotionally involved, to be the one to do it.
Carver needed to die, but he needed to be killed by someone who could look at things more objectively.
And as far as objective viewpoints, I think Clementine was about as objective as you could get in that situation, even though she's the playable character.
I don't think Kenny will become an antagonist, more like that he might lose it a little if Sarita dies or their plan for Wellington doesn't turn out okay. I don't doubt he might become a risk though, or that if he's pushed far enough, he could end up hurting people he wouldn't mean to if he wasn't angry.
To me Kenny is kinda like Joel from The Last Of Us. He's killed others and in some nasty ways, but he still cares about people and for Clementine. Kenny acts brash sometimes without thinking plans through, but it's only because he wants to protect those that are important to him. Inside that bag of hammers is a heart of gold that would give up his life to save Clementine if he had to which is almost did in Episode 3. Kenny is no Governor, no way.
I hear ya, and it's definitely cool when we can all mutually respect the characters and each other, whatever our leanings may be. And yeah, I'm with you on the Carver thing and wish there would have been an option to have Clem take care of the situation with a bullet to the head. She would have been able to do what needed to be done, but would have made it quick and clean, bypassing Luke and the others' unwillingness to get their hands dirty and Kenny and Rebecca's overly emotional investment.
I disagree with that proverb, I don't think a perfect action is impossible at all. In fact, I think the best people in the world are the ones who can turn perfect intentions into perfect actions or get as damn close as they can to it.
you do know that babies don't HAVE to drink formula right? formula is the best thing for them but it's a recent invention in terms of how long humans have lived on this planet. Also milk is not necessary. I mean how do you think the human race has survived for this long in the real world?
that being said modern technology has made it significantly easier to take care of a child. and has decreased the infant mortality rate by a considerable amount. so yeah things look grim for the kid. but it wouldn't be impossible to keep it alive.
but also everyone assumes that when Jane says "she's going to get us all killed" that she is talking about Sarah. I think the is reason to believe she is talking about Rebecca in labor, or the baby crying. So you may have to make a really scary choice. Would easily be the hardest thing that TellTale has asked of us from TWD yet.
Babies do need nourishment otherwise they die.
If they're not fed, they will not make it.
And in the event breast milk is not available, formula works well too.
And as far as Jane goes, if she's intent or if she suggests leaving a pregnant woman behind, she's on my shit-list.
I'll be telling her to go piss-off, and that I'm staying to help Rebecca.
I know Kenny would also be outraged by that kinda suggestion, knowing his character.
As would Luke, Bonnie, and anyone else who's left.
And I would not shoot Rebecca.
That is something I cannot do, that's asking to much.
Amen.
It's nice to be able to discuss our different opinions, our favorite character's, and keep it all nice, friendly and respectful.
To bad some people are not able, or perhaps unwilling, to do as we are now.
We both have expressed our different views and opinions to each other, and yet we've remained courteous and friendly about it.
It's a great way to be!
Him being Season 2's antagonist has crossed my mind before... and I would be lying if I said it wasn't still there.
It's a possibility. That much I do know. It's clear that he's gotten use to using force and acts of violence to protect those he cares for. He also likes revenge (Carver's death). I say him and the group will have somekind of falling out and Clem has to make the decision of who she trusts the most.
Kenny as S2's antagonist would make some sense.
no shit babies need nourishment. but they can survive without milk and formula. you can nourish them with other forms of food and drink. some kids believe it or not are born allergic to milk/formula and have to be given water and other things. my point was that milk and formula were not the only things that can keep a child nourished. despite this technology laden generation believing otherwise. i wasn't suggesting that she would live without food and drink that is absurd.
And i play Clem as a cold hearted survivalist. I would kill/abandon any teammate that was a risk. I very much agree with characters like Jane, Carver, and the Governor... not so much Negan. I think Negan's cruelty is un-needed. But Jane, Carver, and the Governor are only doing what is necessary.
agreed with Flog61. not all growth is positive. just because a character doesn't adapt they way you want doesn't mean the character has been ruined. if anything it makes sense. Kenny has been a dark character for a long long time now. if you think he is a "good" guy you might want to do some revisiting of his character defining moments and the actions he chose. he believes himself a hero, but his actions say otherwise.
How was killing Reggie necessary?
Mm... Breaking Urban? No, that's not funny. Breaking Dead? Nah, doesn't feel right. Breaking Ken? God, that one's awful. Ok... Breaking... er... Eyes? Wow, that's even worse...