I like the dlc idea. Maybe you could play a new character that we have never seen before who is living at carvers camp before carver became evil or something like that. It would give us a chance to actually interact with the 400 days characters properly and explain a lot of things about Carver and what happened between him and the cabin group. Maybe you could play as George
yeah...play as George then die an horrible death at Alvin's hands...nah XD but yeah I like the idea too, experiencing what went on in Carver's camp and seeing the events that changed the whole community. It's hinted that the herd attack might've been the cause, along with the escape of Luke and the gang.
I like the dlc idea. Maybe you could play a new character that we have never seen before who is living at carvers camp before carver became … moreevil or something like that. It would give us a chance to actually interact with the 400 days characters properly and explain a lot of things about Carver and what happened between him and the cabin group. Maybe you could play as George
it's not confirmed whether it was indeed Johnny on the radio or not, they might've been different voice actors, but to me it makes sense for it to have been Hank, given how good of a friend he seems to be for Tavia. I might edit it later on after a few more research...not that I really have the time to be honest. By ear it did sound like Hank to me though...
I'm pretty sure the voice on the walkie-talkie was the voice director who also voiced Johnny from episode 2.
Edit: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Julian_Kwasneski check this link out.
We can never really prove how good friend Johhny and Tavia was as Johnny was shot in the head before he could say anything more than "look at this place Bonny". I guess it might be Hank as the guy on the radio talked a lot like Hank .
it's not confirmed whether it was indeed Johnny on the radio or not, they might've been different voice actors, but to me it makes sense for… more it to have been Hank, given how good of a friend he seems to be for Tavia. I might edit it later on after a few more research...not that I really have the time to be honest. By ear it did sound like Hank to me though...
ok I just listened to both voices and you guys are definitely right, weird that I associated it with Hank's voice then...anyway it's not really confirmed it was Johnny or not so i'll simply delete that one point from my post as it seems irrelevant, if anything it was just another unnamed henchman working for Carver.
We can never really prove how good friend Johhny and Tavia was as Johnny was shot in the head before he could say anything more than "look at this place Bonny". I guess it might be Hank as the guy on the radio talked a lot like Hank .
like most people said, Bonnie says it in one of her unused audio files. I wonder why they left it out though...would've helped fleshing out Carver's character a bit more.
The thing about Rebecca and Carver having an affair might be right. I remember in episode 2 she said 'if he finds out he'll kill me' about Alvin to Clementine, and that does sound like something that somebody who'd had an affair might say. Could've just been a one off Rebecca wasn't proud of and wanted to move on from, but then she starts showing she's pregnant, Carver gets clingy about it being his child and the rest is history o.o and I think you're right, Carver was just waiting for a chance to off Reggie who he kills over one little thing, meanwhile you have someone like Troy screw up that automatic door and Carver says go out of his way to punish or kill that dude. Reggie probably was never going to make it T_T
Here's my little things on Episode 3
The gun Carver kept in his office, the one in his desk. It can only carry *one *bullet and is a puny little thing. And we see very clearly Carver carries a revolver on him at all times, so having protection isn't really a problem for him. Seems like to me the gun in his desk isn't there to shot anybody that threatens to kill him [if it was, it would just be a regular gun that carried much more ammo]. It think instead Carver kept that gun to use on himself, say if the place got overrun by walkers and he knew he wasn't going to make it out, he'd have one bullet left to off himself with.
I don't think Carver was that bad of a guy in the beginning when they first set up that place, just that over time his way of running things became corrupt and that he saw the only way to survive in the new world was by having everyone become like machines, soldiers without weakness. And maybe that's why he kept people prisoner because he wanted to break them into that way of life; or the idea letting them go meant they were better off dead than becoming just another walker to worry about, that or just to set an 'no tolerance' example to the rest of his community if any tried to chicken out and escape. Just, it seemed like Carver was seeking perfection in his community. Problem is, humans aren't perfect and Carver became an asshole, a major asshole o_o
If Carlos wasn't a doctor and useful to the community, Sarah would be long dead. Carver just barely put up with her on a few occasions like when she tells him not hurt Clem at the beginning of Episode 3 and how she keeps talking through his speech that he had Carlos punish her for. And that's exactly it, he had Carlos *do it, it wasn't Carver himself that hit Sarah. Having a doctor around in a time like that would be vital, so Carlos's role was really important. If any harm was to come to his daughter or she got killed for being weak* Carver wouldn't have done it, otherwise something like that would've turned the Carlos against him and that's the last thing he wants. That's why if Carlos wasn't there, or wasn't a doctor, Sarah might've suffered worse as a result, or even death.
The peaches on Carver's desk. They could be fake which I doubt. Now considering you can't go out and buy fruit from the super market anymore, they'd of had to have grown those, and those were some might yummy looking peaches. And given how Carver has a little bit of a chin too, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy got a lot of the good food on offer just for being the 'best boss ever' like his mug proudly proclaims -_- the asswipe.
We all know from unused files that Carver used to be an engineer at some point before the zombie apocalypse. Which is why his compound as electricity and water.
I'm not saying your wrong, but how did you come up with Carver being some sort of Engineer, couldn't someone in the compound be able to do all that stuff, for example the guy who carver asks to fix the door.
We all know from unused files that Carver used to be an engineer at some point before the zombie apocalypse. Which is why his compound as el… moreectricity and water.
I'm not saying your wrong, but how did you come up with Carver being some sort of Engineer, couldn't someone in the compound be able to do all that stuff, for example the guy who carver asks to fix the door.
this is one of the most well thought out posts i've ever seen on these forums.
i really hope we get a prequel DLC, one that perhaps allows us to play as George or even Reggie that allows us to see what the camp was like prior to the last herd. and perhaps see the interactions with Carver and the Cabin survivors. Also allow us to interact with the 400 days characters that went to the camp. so that way they feel more meaningful than a cameo. perhaps even have the big bad as Nate.
interesting insight about Carver's "tiniest gun in the world" haha. I liked that scene with Alvin, as there is quite a lot of symbolism in that simple exchange. Off course there's the phallic allusion, basically saying that Carver talks big but as a "little gun" if you know what I mean...the other being the one you pointed out, a one bullet gun in case things got out of control. I'm actually starting to wonder if he wasn't contemplating suicide. In the short segment before Clementine stole the walkie-talkie, there was a short interaction that could be made on the window over Carver's office. If you pay attention he seems to be putting something back in his desk or checking for something. Might be nothing but it made me wonder back then. Bonnie seemed to pity the guy...
The thing about Rebecca and Carver having an affair might be right. I remember in episode 2 she said 'if he finds out he'll kill me' about A… morelvin to Clementine, and that does sound like something that somebody who'd had an affair might say. Could've just been a one off Rebecca wasn't proud of and wanted to move on from, but then she starts showing she's pregnant, Carver gets clingy about it being his child and the rest is history o.o and I think you're right, Carver was just waiting for a chance to off Reggie who he kills over one little thing, meanwhile you have someone like Troy screw up that automatic door and Carver says go out of his way to punish or kill that dude. Reggie probably was never going to make it T_T
Here's my little things on Episode 3
* The gun Carver kept in his office, the one in his desk. It can only carry *one *bullet and is a puny little thing. And we see very clearly Carver carries a revolver on him at all tim… [view original content]
thanks for the compliment , appreciated I don't think seeing things from Reggie and George's point of view would be interesting...George would die at Alvin's hand after their escape and Reggie...well...he would be left behind. If anything, continuing the story of the 400 days characters as they adapt to their new home would be more interesting. Although it is possible for them to be left at the camp, except Bonnie. Which might actually be interesting to see things from her point of view, since she's the only one who joins no matter what.
this is one of the most well thought out posts i've ever seen on these forums.
i really hope we get a prequel DLC, one that perhaps allow… mores us to play as George or even Reggie that allows us to see what the camp was like prior to the last herd. and perhaps see the interactions with Carver and the Cabin survivors. Also allow us to interact with the 400 days characters that went to the camp. so that way they feel more meaningful than a cameo. perhaps even have the big bad as Nate.
You mean if Carver might've been thinking about giving up? I dunno, but Bonnie mentioned him being stressed right? Maybe everything was starting to take it's toll and he was losing it.
interesting insight about Carver's "tiniest gun in the world" haha. I liked that scene with Alvin, as there is quite a lot of symbolism in t… morehat simple exchange. Off course there's the phallic allusion, basically saying that Carver talks big but as a "little gun" if you know what I mean...the other being the one you pointed out, a one bullet gun in case things got out of control. I'm actually starting to wonder if he wasn't contemplating suicide. In the short segment before Clementine stole the walkie-talkie, there was a short interaction that could be made on the window over Carver's office. If you pay attention he seems to be putting something back in his desk or checking for something. Might be nothing but it made me wonder back then. Bonnie seemed to pity the guy...
You mean if Carver might've been thinking about giving up? I dunno, but Bonnie mentioned him being stressed right? Maybe everything was star… moreting to take it's toll and he was losing it.
And yeah, talks big, little gun XD you just made me think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8tPpS7MI6s
thanks for the compliment , appreciated I don't think seeing things from Reggie and George's point of view would be interesting...George wo… moreuld die at Alvin's hand after their escape and Reggie...well...he would be left behind. If anything, continuing the story of the 400 days characters as they adapt to their new home would be more interesting. Although it is possible for them to be left at the camp, except Bonnie. Which might actually be interesting to see things from her point of view, since she's the only one who joins no matter what.
that would end with the same issue I had with George and Reggie, in that it ends in tragedy. Also like I mentioned in the new facts I gathered, it was never mentioned WHEN Nick's mom died. Thing is, Carver didn't mention her when he was first introduced and didn't ask about her whereabouts to Clementine. Which might be an overlook in the overall story, or it might just be that she died before or while they were still with Carver.
that would end with the same issue I had with George and Reggie, in that it ends in tragedy. Also like I mentioned in the new facts I gather… moreed, it was never mentioned WHEN Nick's mom died. Thing is, Carver didn't mention her when he was first introduced and didn't ask about her whereabouts to Clementine. Which might be an overlook in the overall story, or it might just be that she died before or while they were still with Carver.
I like the dlc idea. Maybe you could play a new character that we have never seen before who is living at carvers camp before carver became … moreevil or something like that. It would give us a chance to actually interact with the 400 days characters properly and explain a lot of things about Carver and what happened between him and the cabin group. Maybe you could play as George
cant believe i read all of that but well worth the time. Glad you pointed that out but TT left a lot unasnwered and didn't paint this picture or point us in the direction
there's still some pieces of the puzzle missing, but unless things start to contradict themselves or simply aren't explored more in the future, I still think that the backstory of Carver and Luke's group can be understood from what I gathered so far. It's not yet a full picture, but I have an idea of what TT might have in store for us...
cant believe i read all of that but well worth the time. Glad you pointed that out but TT left a lot unasnwered and didn't paint this picture or point us in the direction
For me, it's pretty clear that Carver killed Reggie to "teach" the way he thinks things must happen to Clementine and even Sarah.
Carver had a lot of thoughts about teaching this new generation the survival of the fittest way, so they could run the community in the future the same way he does. So yeah, it wasn't about berries at all, lol
And about the writing,I don't get why people complain so much about TTG don't throwing the explanations at our faces, sounds like people doesn't want to think. Telltale got the best writers in the gaming industries, some people just like to complain for fun. But I think i get it, we are in the fucking Internet.
You must not have played season 1 Lol. We complain because it was a let down. Telltale had the momentum and support from season 1 to make season 2 fucking monumental. Didn't meet the hope we all had
For me, it's pretty clear that Carver killed Reggie to "teach" the way he thinks things must happen to Clementine and even Sarah.
Carver … morehad a lot of thoughts about teaching this new generation the survival of the fittest way, so they could run the community in the future the same way he does. So yeah, it wasn't about berries at all, lol
And about the writing,I don't get why people complain so much about TTG don't throwing the explanations at our faces, sounds like people doesn't want to think. Telltale got the best writers in the gaming industries, some people just like to complain for fun. But I think i get it, we are in the fucking Internet.
The problem is that season 1 had longer episodes than season 2.
In my opinion it's a case of "if it isn't broken, don't fix it". Their new business model of "90 minutes episode" isn't enough to satisfy their customers and fans. All i heard so far about it is a bunch of complaining.
I know they adopted this new practice for people to "play in one sitting", but it actually hurts their image and business more than anything. All because some people were whining that the episode were too long...
The thing is, TTG tried to satisfy what i believe is the minority, it doesn't help them at all in the long run, unless they actually enjoy people whining about the length of their episodes. I'm sure we all wouldn't mind if it took us HOURS to finish an episode. I sure wouldn't complain.
It's the same problem i have with movies compared to tv shows. A movie as a limited amount of time to tell a story, while a tv show or episodic game as more time to flesh out characters and tell a good story in details. By reducing the length of the episodes, you also reduce the time to flesh out your characters and the world within your game.
Last episode also had less gameplay than the previous ones and that is something to fear in the future. Last thing i want is a "Beyond Two Soul" David Cage mess of a game. Although the last TWAU episode had quite a lot of gameplay segment and investigative tasks so i still have faith in them.
You must not have played season 1 Lol. We complain because it was a let down. Telltale had the momentum and support from season 1 to make season 2 fucking monumental. Didn't meet the hope we all had
Excellent analysis! I can tell how much work you put into it. Here are some of my thoughts:
-I love your thoughts on the horde attack. I think you hit the nail on the head. That attack was probably a turning point for Carver, and by extension, the entire camp. I'm willing to bet that the cabin group left camp short after that.
-I think Carver not mentioning Nick's mom was a writer oversight. It's heavily implied that she died after they left Carver's camp, since the cabin group developed their own set of rules revolving around democracy, and Nick's mom dying was a huge part of this. This oversight might have also been intentional - for the average gamer, they might not remember the comment about Nick's mom, and if Carver said something like "two farm boys, and old man and his sister," they might be seriously confused. Same thing if Reggie mentioned her in E3.
-I wonder if Wyatt truly gave up looking for Eddie after he wasn't at Carver's camp, or if he wasn't allowed to leave to go find him?
-I'm also curious how long everyone in the cabin group were at Carver's camp prior to escaping. I assume that Carlo-Sarah, Rebecca-Alvin, and Luke-Nick-Pete-Nick's mom were their own little units before arriving to his camp, but were any of them together before that?
thank you ! everyone's comments about this thread has been very appreciated :P
I also agree that perhaps Nick's mom was an oversight in the story, but still, for the sake of continuity, she should've been mentioned if she DID die at the cabin, although it's not quite clear when she died exactly. The only thing we can be sure is that it created a feeling of distrust towards Clementine as a result. They also don't seem to trust strangers in general. Like Carver said : If people don't trust you, how can you trust them ?
Trust seems to be a major theme of this season so far.
Excellent analysis! I can tell how much work you put into it. Here are some of my thoughts:
-I love your thoughts on the horde attack. I … morethink you hit the nail on the head. That attack was probably a turning point for Carver, and by extension, the entire camp. I'm willing to bet that the cabin group left camp short after that.
-I think Carver not mentioning Nick's mom was a writer oversight. It's heavily implied that she died after they left Carver's camp, since the cabin group developed their own set of rules revolving around democracy, and Nick's mom dying was a huge part of this. This oversight might have also been intentional - for the average gamer, they might not remember the comment about Nick's mom, and if Carver said something like "two farm boys, and old man and his sister," they might be seriously confused. Same thing if Reggie mentioned her in E3.
-I wonder if Wyatt truly gave up looking for Eddie after he wasn't at Carve… [view original content]
Hey, this was an interesting read. Whether or not this is what TT had in mind, it was still pretty well thought out. Maybe the last few remaining questions will be answered in the next two episodes?
Hey, this was an interesting read. Whether or not this is what TT had in mind, it was still pretty well thought out. Maybe the last few remaining questions will be answered in the next two episodes?
We already got the achievements on PSN, from what i gathered we'll be separated from the group and will try to regroup along the way. It was also hinted that Eddie might reappear and possibly the rest of Carver's followers. My guess is that there might be a war between factions in the next episode. Whoever is at the ruins of the museum might shed some light on Carver's community a bit more. My guess is that they were members who also fled or had a conflict with them along the way. We'll see...
We already got the achievements on PSN, from what i gathered we'll be separated from the group and will try to regroup along the way. It was… more also hinted that Eddie might reappear and possibly the rest of Carver's followers. My guess is that there might be a war between factions in the next episode. Whoever is at the ruins of the museum might shed some light on Carver's community a bit more. My guess is that they were members who also fled or had a conflict with them along the way. We'll see...
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I think Bonnie says so in one of the unused audio files.
I'm pretty sure the voice on the walkie-talkie was the voice director who also voiced Johnny from episode 2.
Edit: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Julian_Kwasneski check this link out.
Great post. But where did you get that Carver was an engineer? I always imagined him more as a military man, God knows why.
I like the dlc idea. Maybe you could play a new character that we have never seen before who is living at carvers camp before carver became evil or something like that. It would give us a chance to actually interact with the 400 days characters properly and explain a lot of things about Carver and what happened between him and the cabin group. Maybe you could play as George
yeah...play as George then die an horrible death at Alvin's hands...nah XD but yeah I like the idea too, experiencing what went on in Carver's camp and seeing the events that changed the whole community. It's hinted that the herd attack might've been the cause, along with the escape of Luke and the gang.
it's not confirmed whether it was indeed Johnny on the radio or not, they might've been different voice actors, but to me it makes sense for it to have been Hank, given how good of a friend he seems to be for Tavia. I might edit it later on after a few more research...not that I really have the time to be honest. By ear it did sound like Hank to me though...
We can never really prove how good friend Johhny and Tavia was as Johnny was shot in the head before he could say anything more than "look at this place Bonny". I guess it might be Hank as the guy on the radio talked a lot like Hank .
ok I just listened to both voices and you guys are definitely right, weird that I associated it with Hank's voice then...anyway it's not really confirmed it was Johnny or not so i'll simply delete that one point from my post as it seems irrelevant, if anything it was just another unnamed henchman working for Carver.
I changed it on my initial post and also added new facts, thanks for sharing your opinion and the matter :P
like most people said, Bonnie says it in one of her unused audio files. I wonder why they left it out though...would've helped fleshing out Carver's character a bit more.
The thing about Rebecca and Carver having an affair might be right. I remember in episode 2 she said 'if he finds out he'll kill me' about Alvin to Clementine, and that does sound like something that somebody who'd had an affair might say. Could've just been a one off Rebecca wasn't proud of and wanted to move on from, but then she starts showing she's pregnant, Carver gets clingy about it being his child and the rest is history o.o and I think you're right, Carver was just waiting for a chance to off Reggie who he kills over one little thing, meanwhile you have someone like Troy screw up that automatic door and Carver says go out of his way to punish or kill that dude. Reggie probably was never going to make it T_T
Here's my little things on Episode 3
The gun Carver kept in his office, the one in his desk. It can only carry *one *bullet and is a puny little thing. And we see very clearly Carver carries a revolver on him at all times, so having protection isn't really a problem for him. Seems like to me the gun in his desk isn't there to shot anybody that threatens to kill him [if it was, it would just be a regular gun that carried much more ammo]. It think instead Carver kept that gun to use on himself, say if the place got overrun by walkers and he knew he wasn't going to make it out, he'd have one bullet left to off himself with.
I don't think Carver was that bad of a guy in the beginning when they first set up that place, just that over time his way of running things became corrupt and that he saw the only way to survive in the new world was by having everyone become like machines, soldiers without weakness. And maybe that's why he kept people prisoner because he wanted to break them into that way of life; or the idea letting them go meant they were better off dead than becoming just another walker to worry about, that or just to set an 'no tolerance' example to the rest of his community if any tried to chicken out and escape. Just, it seemed like Carver was seeking perfection in his community. Problem is, humans aren't perfect and Carver became an asshole, a major asshole o_o
If Carlos wasn't a doctor and useful to the community, Sarah would be long dead. Carver just barely put up with her on a few occasions like when she tells him not hurt Clem at the beginning of Episode 3 and how she keeps talking through his speech that he had Carlos punish her for. And that's exactly it, he had Carlos *do it, it wasn't Carver himself that hit Sarah. Having a doctor around in a time like that would be vital, so Carlos's role was really important. If any harm was to come to his daughter or she got killed for being weak* Carver wouldn't have done it, otherwise something like that would've turned the Carlos against him and that's the last thing he wants. That's why if Carlos wasn't there, or wasn't a doctor, Sarah might've suffered worse as a result, or even death.
The peaches on Carver's desk. They could be fake which I doubt. Now considering you can't go out and buy fruit from the super market anymore, they'd of had to have grown those, and those were some might yummy looking peaches. And given how Carver has a little bit of a chin too, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy got a lot of the good food on offer just for being the 'best boss ever' like his mug proudly proclaims -_- the asswipe.
I'm not saying your wrong, but how did you come up with Carver being some sort of Engineer, couldn't someone in the compound be able to do all that stuff, for example the guy who carver asks to fix the door.
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this is one of the most well thought out posts i've ever seen on these forums.
i really hope we get a prequel DLC, one that perhaps allows us to play as George or even Reggie that allows us to see what the camp was like prior to the last herd. and perhaps see the interactions with Carver and the Cabin survivors. Also allow us to interact with the 400 days characters that went to the camp. so that way they feel more meaningful than a cameo. perhaps even have the big bad as Nate.
interesting insight about Carver's "tiniest gun in the world" haha. I liked that scene with Alvin, as there is quite a lot of symbolism in that simple exchange. Off course there's the phallic allusion, basically saying that Carver talks big but as a "little gun" if you know what I mean...the other being the one you pointed out, a one bullet gun in case things got out of control. I'm actually starting to wonder if he wasn't contemplating suicide. In the short segment before Clementine stole the walkie-talkie, there was a short interaction that could be made on the window over Carver's office. If you pay attention he seems to be putting something back in his desk or checking for something. Might be nothing but it made me wonder back then. Bonnie seemed to pity the guy...
thanks for the compliment , appreciated
I don't think seeing things from Reggie and George's point of view would be interesting...George would die at Alvin's hand after their escape and Reggie...well...he would be left behind. If anything, continuing the story of the 400 days characters as they adapt to their new home would be more interesting. Although it is possible for them to be left at the camp, except Bonnie. Which might actually be interesting to see things from her point of view, since she's the only one who joins no matter what.
You mean if Carver might've been thinking about giving up? I dunno, but Bonnie mentioned him being stressed right? Maybe everything was starting to take it's toll and he was losing it.
And yeah, talks big, little gun XD you just made me think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8tPpS7MI6s
Ha ! XD
what about playing as Nick's mom/Pete's sister. at the camp and at the cabin/on the road or wherever she got bit.
that would end with the same issue I had with George and Reggie, in that it ends in tragedy. Also like I mentioned in the new facts I gathered, it was never mentioned WHEN Nick's mom died. Thing is, Carver didn't mention her when he was first introduced and didn't ask about her whereabouts to Clementine. Which might be an overlook in the overall story, or it might just be that she died before or while they were still with Carver.
but all walking dead stories end in tragedy.
that what i want
cant believe i read all of that but well worth the time. Glad you pointed that out but TT left a lot unasnwered and didn't paint this picture or point us in the direction
there's still some pieces of the puzzle missing, but unless things start to contradict themselves or simply aren't explored more in the future, I still think that the backstory of Carver and Luke's group can be understood from what I gathered so far. It's not yet a full picture, but I have an idea of what TT might have in store for us...
For me, it's pretty clear that Carver killed Reggie to "teach" the way he thinks things must happen to Clementine and even Sarah.
Carver had a lot of thoughts about teaching this new generation the survival of the fittest way, so they could run the community in the future the same way he does. So yeah, it wasn't about berries at all, lol
And about the writing,I don't get why people complain so much about TTG don't throwing the explanations at our faces, sounds like people doesn't want to think. Telltale got the best writers in the gaming industries, some people just like to complain for fun. But I think i get it, we are in the fucking Internet.
It is
You must not have played season 1 Lol. We complain because it was a let down. Telltale had the momentum and support from season 1 to make season 2 fucking monumental. Didn't meet the hope we all had
Plot Twist: Carver is Clementine's dad. Her dad was an engineer.
The problem is that season 1 had longer episodes than season 2.
In my opinion it's a case of "if it isn't broken, don't fix it". Their new business model of "90 minutes episode" isn't enough to satisfy their customers and fans. All i heard so far about it is a bunch of complaining.
I know they adopted this new practice for people to "play in one sitting", but it actually hurts their image and business more than anything. All because some people were whining that the episode were too long...
The thing is, TTG tried to satisfy what i believe is the minority, it doesn't help them at all in the long run, unless they actually enjoy people whining about the length of their episodes. I'm sure we all wouldn't mind if it took us HOURS to finish an episode. I sure wouldn't complain.
It's the same problem i have with movies compared to tv shows. A movie as a limited amount of time to tell a story, while a tv show or episodic game as more time to flesh out characters and tell a good story in details. By reducing the length of the episodes, you also reduce the time to flesh out your characters and the world within your game.
Last episode also had less gameplay than the previous ones and that is something to fear in the future. Last thing i want is a "Beyond Two Soul" David Cage mess of a game. Although the last TWAU episode had quite a lot of gameplay segment and investigative tasks so i still have faith in them.
Plot Twist: Carver was Lee's wife. She had a sex change.
Excellent analysis! I can tell how much work you put into it. Here are some of my thoughts:
-I love your thoughts on the horde attack. I think you hit the nail on the head. That attack was probably a turning point for Carver, and by extension, the entire camp. I'm willing to bet that the cabin group left camp short after that.
-I think Carver not mentioning Nick's mom was a writer oversight. It's heavily implied that she died after they left Carver's camp, since the cabin group developed their own set of rules revolving around democracy, and Nick's mom dying was a huge part of this. This oversight might have also been intentional - for the average gamer, they might not remember the comment about Nick's mom, and if Carver said something like "two farm boys, and old man and his sister," they might be seriously confused. Same thing if Reggie mentioned her in E3.
-I wonder if Wyatt truly gave up looking for Eddie after he wasn't at Carver's camp, or if he wasn't allowed to leave to go find him?
-I'm also curious how long everyone in the cabin group were at Carver's camp prior to escaping. I assume that Carlo-Sarah, Rebecca-Alvin, and Luke-Nick-Pete-Nick's mom were their own little units before arriving to his camp, but were any of them together before that?
thank you ! everyone's comments about this thread has been very appreciated :P
I also agree that perhaps Nick's mom was an oversight in the story, but still, for the sake of continuity, she should've been mentioned if she DID die at the cabin, although it's not quite clear when she died exactly. The only thing we can be sure is that it created a feeling of distrust towards Clementine as a result. They also don't seem to trust strangers in general. Like Carver said : If people don't trust you, how can you trust them ?
Trust seems to be a major theme of this season so far.
Plot Twist: Nothing really happened and was just Clementine's dream within Lee's dream, as hinted by Kenny. The Walking Dead-ception confirmed !!
Little do you know, Clementine's dream is within Lee's dream, and that is within Rick's dream while he is in a Coma.
They have to go deeper !!!
Hey, this was an interesting read. Whether or not this is what TT had in mind, it was still pretty well thought out. Maybe the last few remaining questions will be answered in the next two episodes?
I got some idea of where the story is heading for next episode...we'll see if i was right when we get there.. "SOON"
What do you think will happen?
We already got the achievements on PSN, from what i gathered we'll be separated from the group and will try to regroup along the way. It was also hinted that Eddie might reappear and possibly the rest of Carver's followers. My guess is that there might be a war between factions in the next episode. Whoever is at the ruins of the museum might shed some light on Carver's community a bit more. My guess is that they were members who also fled or had a conflict with them along the way. We'll see...
That actually sounds pretty interesting. I'm sure many people here including myself would very satisfied if this were to happen.