St John family and cannibalism
Did anyone else find it a bit extreme that the St John brothers turned to cannibalism so quickly into the ZA? Other games have also explored humans being reduced to this (e.g. TLoU), but after years and out of great desperation. We were about 3 months into the ZA, and judging by how 'used to' the family was to their new lifestyle, they must have started very soon after the outbreak. From the awards we saw on their wall, before the outbreak they were smart/sane/Normal... Sure food stocks were running low, but how could that automatically translate into their brain to start eating other people?
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You'd be surprised on how quickly people will go crazy just to save their own skin.
Like Juice_Box said, people go extreme just to survive.
Maybe they already had it planned before the apocalypse? Plus, I wouldn't consider cannibalism to be "extreme". I mean, it's cooked meat, it's not like you'll get any diseases from it or anything. Just be happy you got something to eat.
maybe they were cannibals before the ZA
So... have you eat human flesh?
have you never wonder how it taste....???
What if their father died because someone ate him and they turned to cannibals.
I do,that's why I ask him
According to some questionable sources, it's actually fairly sweet.
Not that I would know or anything.
"You know, when things are taken away, people do some crazy shit."
You're not considering the St John's situation with the right mindset. In Season 1 you played in the role of people holding out for help and expecting everything to return to normal one day. I think for the St Johns, it was never like that. On the first days they must have watched as many of their farm hands and animals were devoured by Walkers - Brenda's statement at the dinner table about the world being overrun with monsters that just eat so they can continue to rot makes me believe those first few days effected her family deeply. They had corn and dairy products, but they didn't have protein. I can just imagine the idea of eating the meat of someone who was doomed anyway coming to mind and seeming like a means of survival for them. If they targeted people who were going to die anyways, then what was the harm? But the family must have gotten more deranged, or they must have stretched what counted as "going to die anyways," to count people they lured in and the Save-Lots Bandits. After all, I can't imagine having much to pick from when your grocery list is exclusionary to people who will die soon but who are not yet dead (since that taints the meat).
The St Johns were never like Lee or the others. They accepted the rules of the new world and must have reasoned that if the living dead were going to eat just so they could go on rotting and eating then what was the harm of a struggling family doing the same in the name of survival? They were a close-knit Southern family; it wouldn't take long for those kinds of ideas to pass around, grow and then be put into practice. Most cannibals you see in other survival or horror games are bands of desperate survivors who figured it was the only way to survive while the St Johns probably went for the, "if the dead are doing it for no gains, then we should do it for an actual reason" and rolled with it. Hell, the moment they met the Motor Inn group they were assessing them as livestock. Lee picks up a white-tipped arrow and remarks that the St Johns probably used it on a walker for target practice. Mark is then later shot with a white-tipped arrow while the bandits (including Jolene) only used ones that were red. They probably didn't even see people as people anymore outside of their family.
I haven't tasted human flesh, but cooked meat, it's definitely something. I'm rather interested in trying it if I'm honest.
Can't say I share that interest, but...whatever floats your boat, I guess.
-_- It's "whatever tickles your peach."
Clearly already a family of nutters, just needed the little push. If it wasn't cannibalism they were probably going to make Mark "squeal like a pig." Both took place in Georgia after all.
God, I wish that had been part of the dialogue: when Carly/Doug goes back to the motor inn, "okay, but if you see an abino kid with a banjo, run."
im pretty sure is pickle.....-.
Well we eat animals so where just as bad
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And in literal terms too
They were cannibals before the ZA begin.
Exactly right. It was clear from the conversation at the dinner table, the set traps, Jolene, the medical paraphernalia and the human slaughter house that they had practiced cannibalism for years. Not just during the apocalypse.
If they had resorted to cannibalism because there was no other way to survive, then I could have understood it to a certain extent.
Yeah that works too
I don't think they were cannibals before. It doesn't make sense. They owned a successful award-winning dairy farm near one of the largest cities in Georgia, they employed some farmhands, and they had tons of visitors. It's extremely unlikely they were cannibals before and no one knew it. I think that Andy and Danny got back home when the apocalypse started (they didn't live in the farm if I remember well) and witnessed most of the farmhands getting killed. Most of the cows died too, and they didn't have much food stocked up, especially meat products. They grow increasingly hungry and desperate. Later, the bandits show up, threaten them and kill a couple of farmhands to show they aren't fucking around. They finally make the famous food for protection deal, and they eventually kill some people as supplies dwindle, both to feed themselves and the bandits.
"Just goes to show you that people will up and go crazy when they believe their life is over."
or something like that :P
You absolutely can get diseases from eating human flesh. Kuru disease is a big one that comes to mind. It's particularly risky to eat flesh from around the head/brain because of the high concentration of prion particles found in the brain, but there is inherent risk in eating human flesh at all because prion particles can be carried in subcutaneous tissue, so.... yeah.
Just since you mentioned the taste, in a lot of places where they engage in cannibalism (like some tribes do in Papua New Guinea, for instance) human flesh is referred to as long pig, and it is said to taste like pork.
I'll never understand this mentality some people get about the taboo of cannibalism, that there's something badass or survivalist in being open about eating somebody else. It isn't really an issue of being willing to try something like that, it's just... a stupid risk. Don't eat human flesh.