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Bit biased much?
Lol "wait a second...Governor bad?"
I am not a fan of the show. I know the basic plot cuz I have a friend who won't shut up about it, but I never got into it. Never read the comics. Game is masterpiece.
Stupid useless slutbag Andrea
Huh. 6/10 is a bit generous for the comic. Bland and horrible writing there.
Haven't seen season four because I lost faith in the show during its third season, but the first two seasons are great.
The game is virtually eclipsed over the other mediums.
The problem with the show is that they fired Frank Darabont over nothing and basically stole the show from him.
He's the one that made season 1 so good and true to the universe of the comic. Then they kept changing writers after that and the show became somewhat inconsistent in it's overall quality.
Might I add that Frank Darabont directed the Shawshank Redemption...a masterpiece in my opinion.
They ruined good characters, killed Dale because the actor was friend with Darabont and made the second season a boring mess that dragged on too long.
So yeah, the game is overall better for its excellent writing and griping story. Hopefully they won't do the same mistakes the show did...
Game 9/10. Show s1 8/10 s2+ 2/10 comic 8/10
the show is not that bad. sure season two was boring but still was cool. season 3.5 (the later half) sucked because they just fucked it up, had just one or 2 great episodes, but I think that Gimple is goin to take it into a better direction. and well the original writers for the game are not really working on it anymore sooo....
are you fuckin kiddin??? the comic is great idk what you like but cmon the comic is better than the show
I agree the game is better than the show, but NO ONE can outmaster Robert Kirkman, and it's a different sort of media so it's not fair to compare them.
Story and writing wise, the comics are unbeatable.
Btw, check this out if you haven't seen it, it's a very "sarcastic" and funny criticism about season 1 and the colossal fuck up that is season 2 (I mean the show)
Fuckin' bitch, her comic counterpart is WAY hotter and WAY more badass.
Are you kidding me?
I recently started reading the comics because I kept hearing so much about how much better they are than the show. I don't think I've ever been so dissapointed in my life.
While I agree that it's probably better than TV show seasons 3 + 4, but that's only because the last two seasons of the show has been some of the worst TV I've watched. The writing in the comics is just horrible. The dialogue is atrocious, I can't believe anybody in their right mind would call that good writing. The pacing sucks as well. It seems extremely rushed and the characters are really bland. I seriously can't describe any of the characters in the comic, they're that one-dimensional.
Yeah, the show had some really sucky parts (Lori+Andrea) but the writing in the first two seasons were better than the comics. Shane is a good example. I was horrified by Kirkman's bad handling of Shane's character. So unrealistic.
Season 2 of the show had horrible pacing (search for Sophia, zzzzz) but the writing, with the exception of Lori, is some of the best writing the show has ever had. Mostly because of Shane and his development.
Lots of action != good writing
Just because Robert Kirkman made it doesn't mean he makes it better than everyone else.
Anyway, everybody kept calling the comics masterpieces and Robert Kirkman an excellent writer, I must say I was extremely dissapointed.
The game is BY FAR the best writing in this whole franchise, including the comics.
That's a bit harsh. I agree with the ordering of Game>Comic>TV Show, but all 3 are good.
Game > Comic > Show
I think the show and the game are better then the comics. The first 50 issues are ok, but they went downhill from there.
Holy shit... you are my twin O_O
I think you're just a shane fan. But ye to me the game i love it very much. But you can't sayv THE comic it's shit
I`d give comics 8 out of 10. They are not that bad, I find them pretty interesting.
You're the first person I hear saying that, honestly.
And the comics get way better in the latest issues, until where have you read? Did you stop after 1 volume? That's not a way to read comics.
The writing there is the most astonishing thing I've ever seen, I can bring you examples if you want, Robert really succeeds in creating the most realistic zombie story ever written, not just story wise but also character wise, he came the closest I've ever seen to portraying the real life human reactions to an apocalypse, and he has some AMAZING speeches and quotes in the book.
And don't say how the writing is supposed to be, he's way more experienced than anyone here and he knows what he's doing, don't forget that the game itself is aspired from the comics and always tries to reassemble it (as it's a new story of the same world).
Do you want me to post an example for good writing the comics?
I agree with the rest (have a like) but just so you know one-dimensional characters does not mean 'can't describe person at all' it means 'I can easily describe this person' lets use Kenny as an example. your description says Kenny is a deep person with a lot going on and his actions are hard to explain, I cannot give you a description for Kenny he has too much character. While One-dimensional Kenny can be quickly described by a man who met him moments ago as "the loud man with the beard"
Yeah that may be it, since he was killed way earlier in issue 5
See, I don't know about later issues but once I read this
I pretty much made up my mind that the game has way better writing.
LOL, that was kinda hilarious I agree, but it is for laughs, that's not serious, it's to break tension in a very "depressing" story.
"It's obvious now that i'm the only sane one here! We already are savages, Tyreese. You especially! The second we put a bullet in the head of one of these undead monsters--the moment one of us drove a hammer into one of their faces--or cut off a head. We became what we are! And that's just it. That's what this comes down to. You people don't know what we are. We're surrounded by the dead. We're among them--and when we finally give up we become them! We're living on borrowed time here. Every minute of our life is a minute we steal from them! You see them out there. You know that when we die--we become them. You think we hide behind walls to protect us from the walking dead! Don't you get it! WE ARE THE WALKING DEAD! We are the walking dead..."
Bad writing? ^
Agreed.
Game > TV show > comic.
I'm still in the process of reading it, not planning to stop.
They just arrived at the prison. So yeah, maybe they get better later, but right now the dialogue feels like something a child could have written to be honest.
I've yet to read a single page that I found deep or profound. The dialogue feels forced and totally out of place.
I'm not arguing that Robert Kirkman has some good ideas on how a apocalypse would turn out and the effects it would have on humans, but that doesn't mean he's a good writer.
I'm aware that the game is based on the comic, but that doesn't mean the comic has better writing. Far from it.
I'll say again, just because Kirkman made it, doesn't mean what he made is the best.
I'm not a writer. I'm not telling anyone how the writing should be, I'm simply pointing out what I find to be poor writing. I don't have to be a writer to point out that other people are not good writers.
Sure, give me some good examples, other than the "We are the walking dead" speech, which I'll admit is pretty good. Other than that, I've yet to see anything good.
This is just one of the cringe worthy scenes I've read in the comics so far, and there are a lot of them.
No, what I mean is there is nothing unique about the characters that make them seem like living people. I'm not talking about physical descriptions, I'm talking about a describing what kind of personality they have etc, which I feel the comic characters don't really have.
A good written character should be easy to describe, a badly written one-dimensional character is hard to describe because he really doesn't have any character traits.
Sure, it's a pretty good speech, I'll admit. But it's the only one I've seen so far.
And it's not even that good, I mean it's not like masterful writing to be honest. It's more the whole concept or the idea that they are the walking dead that's awesome. So yeah, Kirkman's got good ideas but his writing skills needs improvement.
There's a difference between being creative and being a good writer.
No, I'm not "just" a Shane fan. Yes, I found his character to the most interesting in season 2 and they handled it way better in the show than Kirkman did in the comics. But I'm not a fanboy, I'm glad he died when he did in the show, it was the best thing for his character.
I'm simply using Shane as an example of one the parts the show did better than the comics.
And I'm not calling the comics "shit", I'm saying the writing is pretty bland.
How about this one?
And this?
that's the guy's opinion, what he likes/prefers, yet people still dislike his post.
sad
Sorry, no. I don't see how this is fantastic writing at all.
I think you might be confusing Kirkman's ideas and creativity with the quality of his writing. These are two very different things. I've always said that Kirkman has some great ideas and his take on the ZA is probably my favorite of all time. But my gripe is with the WRITING, not the ideas or the world he's made.
The examples you just provided are pretty much the same way. It's just characters stating things like robots. I understand the reasoning behind what they say, but I don't FEEL anything when reading it. It just doesn't feel like REAL people talking.
Also, your examples are painfully cheesy as well... another gripe I have with the dialogue.
Game > show/comic/universe/infinity/anything
I woulda say the how is THAT bad. I like the show a lot. But the game a lot more.
Yeah the video game is class save the best for last lol
I think that because he's creative and has such good skills he knows how to present a story in a way all of us could relate and ask ourselves "What would I have done instead of Rick?", that's brilliant.
It's your opinion, I've never heard anyone say that it's "cheesy", "unrealistic" or "robotic" except you, in fact, I'm always amazed when I read these and for example, when Rick talks to Carl in his coma I was literally shocked with his insights and the way he words them, and I think that people can agree with me on this.
Btw, read his novels, he's writing the characters kinda like "rednecks" and because that's the tone he wanted to give to the comics, you won't believe how sophisticated and detailed his writing is in the novels.