Shouldn't Gods be Fables?

I don't know the exact rules for Fables but... wouldn't Gods be fables? For example, if Grendel is a fable, so should be Beowulf and other norse legends, including Thor, Odin and all the norse gods. (Can you picture Bigby vs Fenrir)? Also, isn't Bigby's father, the North Wind, himself a god? Then why isn't the world of fables filled with overpowered godly beings? Including the "One God" from monotheistic religions. How fucking insanely overpowered he would be... considering the believes around him plus his absolute notoriety.

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  • Lol, I think people would be offended if there were. There should be though. Also, the overpowered thing would cause problems in plots and shit

  • Maybe the Gods didn't escape from the home lands. Why should they bother, right? Bigby's father is still there.

  • Certain beings, like The North Wind, are just too powerful for The Adversary to conquer/drive away or even pose any real threat. The Fabletown refugees are from the conquered lands, and not every part of the Homelands have been conquered (not even close). Besides, if you happen to have power strong enough to challenge The North Wind, you would likely destroy the world if you fought.

  • That's what I was thinking, but it's part of the setting to establish plausible rules for the world and the plot to be and flow the way it is.

    Ascari posted: »

    Lol, I think people would be offended if there were. There should be though. Also, the overpowered thing would cause problems in plots and shit

  • Ok, I understand you could say Gods would have no reason to go to the mundane world to live as regular people but... do they exist in the variou magic lands out there? And shouldn't omnipresent Gods be, you know, everywhere?

  • I stopped reading the comics 70-80 issues in, but I don't remember any gods from any real world religions appearing. I see no reason why they couldn't exist in the Homelands however, but I don't think they fit the setting's millieu personally.

    Ok, I understand you could say Gods would have no reason to go to the mundane world to live as regular people but... do they exist in the variou magic lands out there? And shouldn't omnipresent Gods be, you know, everywhere?

  • i would agree but it is too much of a sensitive issue and in the end they want to sell comics for people to read not have public burnings

  • Yeah. I wouldn't appreciate my God being called a Fable.

    Ascari posted: »

    Lol, I think people would be offended if there were. There should be though. Also, the overpowered thing would cause problems in plots and shit

  • edited June 2014

    You said it yourself, you wouldn't appreciate your God being called a Fable. Every believer has his own interpretation of God, and the disrespect is in not respecting others believes. If there was a "The One God" in Fables it just wouldn't be yours, or anybody else, instead, just as the theme suggests, it would be the author's interpretation of everybody's conception of a monotheistic God manifested as a single entity. I believe believers with minimal maturity would be able to live with that. Maybe radical Muslims wouldn't as any representation of God or their prophet is considered heresy, but... I don't know, I just think the rules of the setting should explain why there are no Godly beings around.

    Yeah. I wouldn't appreciate my God being called a Fable.

  • That's what I'm thinking, but i was hoping for an explanation to justify it some other way, like I said a way that respected the rules of the setting.

    angrykurd posted: »

    i would agree but it is too much of a sensitive issue and in the end they want to sell comics for people to read not have public burnings

  • edited June 2014

    Well no.
    Gods are gods and fables are fables. True is that probably Gods are "more real" in the Fable universe that in the real world. For instance, the woodsman's axe was blessed by druids. This mean druids in the Fable World ( let's say the other side of the mirror) had some magical powers, granted by celtic gods. Gods have some sort of power over Fables, that in the real world have not. Probably, just as fables are strenghten by mundys' knowledge of their tales, Gods are strenghten by mundys' beliefs.

    A conjunction can be seen in demigods. There are a lot of legends and folktales about them, so i think they can easily appear as fables. Grendel for instance is the enemy of Beowulf, who was a sort of demigod. If Grendel is there, I can't see why Beowulf couldn't.

    My point is, maybe we couldn't see Zeus stroll around fabletown, but maybe we could see Hercules.

  • The only problem would be having Gods that contradict others all existing in the same setting but still that makes perfect sense. Thanks for the contribution, really! :-)

    Endrik posted: »

    Well no. Gods are gods and fables are fables. True is that probably Gods are "more real" in the Fable universe that in the real world. For

  • I don't recall seeing actual zombies, Great Old Ones, superheroes, or space aliens in the books either, though the rules of the setting allows for them to be Fables. Should it account for everything?

    Regardless if the can actually exist or whatever possible real world backlash, some things simply doesn't fit the theme/tone/whatever of the book. This is Fables, where the hook is specifically characters from whimsical tales are doing very un-whimsical things. Sure the Tuatha De Danann or some other pantheon of gods could theoretically show up, but I think that's besides the point of the book.

    Sandman is more the type of book where anything can (and pretty much does) show up and would never seem out of place. Or need much of an explanation why they would, actually.

    You said it yourself, you wouldn't appreciate your God being called a Fable. Every believer has his own interpretation of God, and the disre

  • Fucking surprised that people still believe mythicals in the year 2014, must be our filthy nature.

  • edited June 2014

    Fables are based on stories and legends. To associate God with that would really be saying that God is just what it sounds like: A fable. It may not be the intent, but that doesn't change how it sounds. Therefore, it would be best to not associate real world religions into Fables simply to avoid controversy.

    You said it yourself, you wouldn't appreciate your God being called a Fable. Every believer has his own interpretation of God, and the disre

  • I agree, i'm a christian and i wouldn't like my God to be a Fable...

    Fables are based on stories and legends. To associate God with that would really be saying that God is just what it sounds like: A fable.

  • The problem is with YOUR God.But I think the guy was refering to Greek,Scandinavian,Roman and Egyptian Gods.

    nusi2 posted: »

    I agree, i'm a christian and i wouldn't like my God to be a Fable...

  • Most people wouldn't have problems asssociating ancient gods with fables and at that time those were real world religions.I am an atheist,however I wouldn't like to see Allah or Jesus as fables,it would be too weird.If you think,it would be a little too ballsy move for someone to make.I CRAVE to see gods from polytheistic religions as fables.Much more material to work with and it wouldn't annoy people.

    Fables are based on stories and legends. To associate God with that would really be saying that God is just what it sounds like: A fable.

  • Thanks, sorry for misunderstading.

    Adrian14 posted: »

    The problem is with YOUR God.But I think the guy was refering to Greek,Scandinavian,Roman and Egyptian Gods.

  • why did you stop reading the comics? did you no longer enjoy them?

    xChryst posted: »

    I stopped reading the comics 70-80 issues in, but I don't remember any gods from any real world religions appearing. I see no reason why they couldn't exist in the Homelands however, but I don't think they fit the setting's millieu personally.

  • Yeah its human nature after all we are animals and young. Though some ppl still worship the old gods in the past but veeeerry little. It be cool if the fable gods including modern and ancient religions showed up, but that's just crazy confusion

    Web Head posted: »

    Fucking surprised that people still believe mythicals in the year 2014, must be our filthy nature.

  • Lol, I would like some greek gods or something. xD Maybe telltale could make a game about that. But right after their doctor who game!

  • Bigby's father was one of the four Winds, but not really a god.

    And Willingham didn't want to use characters that were oversaturated in modern works, like Thor, who has appeared extensively in Marvel comics.

    Also, Grendel didn't appear in the comics. If he had, Beowulf probably should, too, though.

    Not all Fables escaped the Homelands, though. Many died at the hands of the Adversary before they could escape.

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