About an EP#4 Achievement...

I was looking over the achievements for episode 4 again and I realized that All Fall Down achievement could refer to something so I did some research.

I found out that this is actually one of the lyrics in ''Ring a Ring a Roses". This is how it goes (American version):

Ring-a-round the rosie,
A pocket full of posies,
Ashes! Ashes!
We ALL FALL DOWN

Now I think I might be clutching at straw here but what if this is related to what might happen in the next episode? This rhyme was about the black death which was one of the greatest pandemics in human history.

Might the musuem be up in flames??? Not when they get there but later on maybe?

Or if the british version is followed will tons of people get bitten this episode? It seems possible to me.

I dunno, what does everyone else think?

Comments

  • Yeah I think they will have to leave the museum and it might burn down or get overrun by zombies. This makes sense too because the achievement is almost at the end chronologically.

  • I took it differently. When I heard Jane say "They're all going to die, Don't let them bring you down" I assumed that everyone but Clem will die in the attack and that's what all fall down was.

  • OzzyUKOzzyUK Moderator

    What Jane meant by that is that the group is a burden to Clementine, they are slowing her down and could potentially put Clem in danger or get her killed by their actions, it sounds like she is encouraging Clem to leave the group and go alone or with herself to avoid getting killed by their unintentional mistakes.

    Regarding the All Fall Down achievement maybe they could lose some people, whether its the cabin group or a new group that they meet or maybe a mixture of both, or like you (the OP) said maybe there is a fire and the building will fall down.

    I took it differently. When I heard Jane say "They're all going to die, Don't let them bring you down" I assumed that everyone but Clem will die in the attack and that's what all fall down was.

  • Another idea came with the whole fire thing, what if the camp fire from episode 1 foreshadows the events that is going to happen?

    I hope not xD

  • Camp fire foreshadows? In what way?

    Another idea came with the whole fire thing, what if the camp fire from episode 1 foreshadows the events that is going to happen? I hope not xD

  • Well, you get the choice to either put the log, Kenny's family drawing or Lee's picture on the fire.

    Well, since the only person alive from the objects is Kenny what if it somehows foreshadows him getting burnt if it does happen?

    I dunno, maybe I'm just making something outta nothing?

  • Oh yeah, I forgot about that option. I always found the log and placed in into the fire, so the option of burning the other objects slipped form my mind.
    Well, you never know. I hope not, but you could be right? I mean,in S2e1 at the abandoned camp Clem finds a doll that resembles Bonnie , and hey presto Bonnie appears.

    But IMO they just included those choices to see whether people would let Clem be sentimental or just break with the past.

    Well, you get the choice to either put the log, Kenny's family drawing or Lee's picture on the fire. Well, since the only person alive fr

  • Now that I think about it, Clem does have the option to look at fire in both episode two (at the lodge) and three (out in the prison yard). Perhaps TTG is foreshadowing something? A massive fire maybe? Or possibly something to do with Christa, seeing as the campfire from episode 1 was the setting of the last intimate moment shared between Christa and Clem.

    Another idea came with the whole fire thing, what if the camp fire from episode 1 foreshadows the events that is going to happen? I hope not xD

  • SyracuseSyracuse Banned
    edited June 2014

    Probably means the group will get attacked by walkers and lots of characters will end up dead. It is the penultimate episode and the group is still pretty big, so...

  • Yep, the sad truth!

    Syracuse posted: »

    Probably means the group will get attacked by walkers and lots of characters will end up dead. It is the penultimate episode and the group is still pretty big, so...

  • I think it will be a mixture, it would be too much for the rest of the Cabin Crew to go.

    OzzyUK posted: »

    What Jane meant by that is that the group is a burden to Clementine, they are slowing her down and could potentially put Clem in danger or g

  • in the episode 4 slide it looks like she is doing some kind of ritual.

    Maybe the 'ring around the rosie'
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    means them doing some kind of ritual of some sort.
    I looked this up: >The 'ring around the rosy' referred to the marks that showed up on people's bodies

    "marks on peoples bodies? in rituals don't they do marks on bodies to mean something?

    I don't know what the "pocket full of posie" would mean...

    But the ashes, ashes, we all fall down could mean tem burning the place down, taking lives with them.

    Also I looks up and the poem does have to do with black dead (a sickness) and one of the signs of having it is a read spot on the skin. maybe the 'spot' for amid the ruins is a bite. when bit, its red, and your sick.

  • The rhyme is actually about the plague (The black death).
    "Ring-a-ring-a-rosie!" The marks on the persons body were kinda like red rings, when they got the plague (bubonic plague) those marks will appear and they'd boyle up like pus things, ew.
    "Pocket full of posies!" Because of your body dying, and rotting and the marks on your body, etc, they put posies in there pockets to eliminate the smell so they weren't neglected.
    "Ashes, Ashes!" Once you died, you'd be cremated. Not everyone was, though. Once they couldn't cremate people anymore because everyone was dying off so quickly, so they were thrown onto the streets, and anywhere else.
    "We all fall down!" This kind of speaks for itself, everyone dies. Which most of Europe's population did, and many of countries also.

    The infected that spreads in TWDG is kind of like the septicemic plague but it's not exactly it. If you are bit, you get infected, if you're bit by the diseased flea that was found on rats, it went into the bloodstream and you'd slowly die from there. Kind of like the walker infection, right? Bitten by a walker, and you slowly die.

    To summarise, the achievement "All Fall Down" might have something to do with A LOT of characters dying when walkers attack the museum.
    Give your honest thoughts?

  • It'd be the perfect opportunity to include some sort of Carley/Doug moment from S1 EP1.

    I agree that A LOT of characters will die though.

    The rhyme is actually about the plague (The black death). "Ring-a-ring-a-rosie!" The marks on the persons body were kinda like red rings,

  • http://www.snopes.com/language/literary/rosie.asp Snopes says it's not about the Black Death. They could be wrong though.

    The rhyme is actually about the plague (The black death). "Ring-a-ring-a-rosie!" The marks on the persons body were kinda like red rings,

  • I can totally see a lot of characters dying. It's the penultimate episode and TTG would never allow a horde of zombies attack without a few casualties. Some might not even be from the core group we're focused on right now. Greg Kinney said that we might be meeting new characters in this upcoming episode so it could be them as well.

    The rhyme is actually about the plague (The black death). "Ring-a-ring-a-rosie!" The marks on the persons body were kinda like red rings,

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