Hell, the guy even sexualized a zombie.
Sorry I could resist
I'm not going to try to make him sound like he did nothing wrong but at least he was intoxicated while talking about sex.
I love Nate, because i see A LOT of myself in this character. I have pretty much the same personality. Everyone has good parts and bad parts to them. Nate isn't a rapist. Seriously i laugh when i read this stuff, Why because he talked about a girls boobs? I do this, a lot of other guys do this too, should we all be on some sort of watch list?
Come on seriously. I think Nate would be a awesome member to the group. It would be so find it pretty interesting on how Nate would react with Clem. I think he would feel intimidated a bit at first, i know i would feel that way if i ran into a kid that i had to take care of. I think in the end he would do a good job, sure their would be drama but i think down deep he would do the right thing.
Oh, sorry I thought you were asking what it meant.
lol Nate is immensely misogynist. The only time he ever talks about women is to object… moreify them, and when a woman who isn't old is brought up, his mind immediately just goes to sex. Russell even says himself "Why are you always talking about women like that?" And Nate gives his gross explanation about "the hunger" or whatever.
Hell, the guy even sexualized a zombie.
Jane isn't even that hot, and it's a shame that she's the most attractive survivor at this point. I'd probably give her a 6.25/10. I couldn'… moret decide between a 6/10 and a 6.5/10 so I gave her that score. RIP Carley and Stephanie, they were the hottest.
People giving out dislikes as thoughtlessly as ever.
Also he wouldn't even join the group. There is no scenario in which that makes a lick of sense. No one would want him.
I agree with you here, i don't think Nate would stay with the current group. I think if Nate's character was introduced it would have to be in a later season, where he develops a personal relationship with Clem or whoever, and that is the reason why he joins the group.
Ahh I don't mind the dislikes. They're just mad because I gave Nate a 3. Sorry if I'm not interested in "walking among his cobra" like the r… moreest of this forum.
But yeah no he wouldn't even have a reason to. A cheeky kid with a baseball cap, her anxious and emotionally dependent friend, an (possible) armless woman, a heavily pregnant woman, an old guy with no eye, a smelly chick who shoots guys' dicks off? C'mon. Too much drama, too much baggage, not enough fun. Nate wouldn't even bother with the group in the FIRST place.
Huh? Did you miss the "you wanna kill these folks and take all their stuff?" part? Or when he almost got Russel bitten in an effort to get an evaluation on the walker's good looks? Also the point is that all he wanted to hear about was the sexual side of things. That alone doesn't necessarily mean he'd sink to the level of rape but it does make him misogynistic. And combined with the aforementioned psychopathic tendencies, rape becomes more likely.
I love Nate, because i see A LOT of myself in this character. I have pretty much the same personality. Everyone has good parts and bad part… mores to them. Nate isn't a rapist. Seriously i laugh when i read this stuff, Why because he talked about a girls boobs? I do this, a lot of other guys do this too, should we all be on some sort of watch list?
Come on seriously. I think Nate would be a awesome member to the group. It would be so find it pretty interesting on how Nate would react with Clem. I think he would feel intimidated a bit at first, i know i would feel that way if i ran into a kid that i had to take care of. I think in the end he would do a good job, sure their would be drama but i think down deep he would do the right thing.
Larry is fucking huge. He's probably physically the strongest character in the game. Lee's victory over Kenny is determinate. Molly is just badass as hell and grapples all over the city, you can't blame Kenny for getting served by her. She can determinately kick Lee's ass as well. Carver had the distinct advantage of being armed himself and having armed guards, so if Kenny made a move he and his loved ones were liable to get shot. Notice Kenny just stood there and waited for Carver to hit him, he didn't try to fight. We have seen Kenny get back up after having his face bashed in to the point of his eye probably being history and then proceed to make two clean knee cap shots on Carver while only having one eye. Nate on the other hand... hasn't really shown much strength or endurance as I recall.
And who wants to think that such things could possibly happen? It's very dark, but as we've seen - not all survivors are sane or kind.
Nate is a disturbed individual and knows how to sneak up on people (look how quickly he found Eddie and Wyatt without being spotted - in a truck, no less). I think he could very well stalk the group without being spotted and strike the first chance he got.
He found Wyatt and Eddie pretty quickly after losing them on the back roads. And (if Wyatt stays with the car), he doesn't notice Nate is even there until the guy is on him. (Wyatt barely escaped).
Well by no one I mean no one among the group and none of them are that unhinged, lol. I think they'd notice being followed, especially for s… moreuch an extensive period and by somebody who probably isn't much of an expert tracker. Thank goodness, the idea of him catching one of the girls is too dismal.
Maybe not misogynistic, but definitely sexist. And possibly a pedophile, as he wanted to know more about an underaged girls rack for mental wank material.
And there's no arguing that he is a loose canon and possibly deranged - given how he chased down Eddie and Wyatt in order to kill them for accidentally murdering a companion, and placed Russell's life in danger - twice- just for personal kicks.
Seriously, that guy is so hard up for some action that he attempted to pressure a teenaged boy into talking about an underaged girls breasts. In this new world where living people are scarce, what do you think he'd do if he came across a woman? Make nice with her just to be friends?
I love Nate, because i see A LOT of myself in this character. I have pretty much the same personality. Everyone has good parts and bad part… mores to them. Nate isn't a rapist. Seriously i laugh when i read this stuff, Why because he talked about a girls boobs? I do this, a lot of other guys do this too, should we all be on some sort of watch list?
Come on seriously. I think Nate would be a awesome member to the group. It would be so find it pretty interesting on how Nate would react with Clem. I think he would feel intimidated a bit at first, i know i would feel that way if i ran into a kid that i had to take care of. I think in the end he would do a good job, sure their would be drama but i think down deep he would do the right thing.
Did you miss the "you wanna kill these folks and take all their stuff?" part?
The old people shot first, that is how things are in the Zombie Apocolpyse. Yeah i really didn't care anything about those old people. I didn't know them, they weren't my best friends. They were just strangers. She was dead/dying and he was a old racist asshole so i let Nate do whatever he want.
Or when he almost got Russel bitten in an effort to get an evaluation on the walker's good looks? Also the point is that all he wanted to hear about was the sexual side of things. That alone doesn't necessarily mean he'd sink to the level of rape but it does make him misogynistic
He was just playing with Russel. He may of taken it a little far, but that doesn't make him a misogynistic. I don't see how you can judge the character on maybe ten minutes of dialogue, and label him a rapist killer. I find it funny.
And combined with the aforementioned psychopathic tendencies, rape becomes more likely.
Nate is not the only character who has exhibited "psychopathic" tendencies, so in your rational Kenny would also be a rapist. I find it funny that everyone forgets all the horrible things Kenny has done, but they let him slide, but if Nate talks about some made up girls boobs, he is Hitler.
Huh? Did you miss the "you wanna kill these folks and take all their stuff?" part? Or when he almost got Russel bitten in an effort to get a… moren evaluation on the walker's good looks? Also the point is that all he wanted to hear about was the sexual side of things. That alone doesn't necessarily mean he'd sink to the level of rape but it does make him misogynistic. And combined with the aforementioned psychopathic tendencies, rape becomes more likely.
Seriously, that guy is so hard up for some action that he attempted to pressure a teenaged boy into talking about an underaged girls breasts… more. In this new world where living people are scarce, what do you think he'd do if he came across a woman? Make nice with her just to be friends?
I find this rather doubtful.
Larry is fucking huge. He's probably physically the strongest character in the game. Lee's victory over Kenny is determinate. Molly is just … morebadass as hell and grapples all over the city, you can't blame Kenny for getting served by her. She can determinately kick Lee's ass as well. Carver had the distinct advantage of being armed himself and having armed guards, so if Kenny made a move he and his loved ones were liable to get shot. Notice Kenny just stood there and waited for Carver to hit him, he didn't try to fight. We have seen Kenny get back up after having his face bashed in to the point of his eye probably being history and then proceed to make two clean knee cap shots on Carver while only having one eye. Nate on the other hand... hasn't really shown much strength or endurance as I recall.
He found Wyatt and Eddie pretty quickly after losing them on the back roads. And (if Wyatt stays with the car), he doesn't notice Nate is even there until the guy is on him. (Wyatt barely escaped).
Jane isn't even that hot, and it's a shame that she's the most attractive survivor at this point. I'd probably give her a 6.25/10. I couldn'… moret decide between a 6/10 and a 6.5/10 so I gave her that score. RIP Carley and Stephanie, they were the hottest.
You see nothing wrong with murdering strangers? They shot first because they apparently recognised Nate, plus they could've just not gone into the building after getting shot at. The old guy was just taking care of his wife wasn't he? He wasn't interested in spreading his hate speech, I don't see why murdering him was necessary. As for the old lady, her dying isn't a good defense to just murdering her instead of letting her pass in peace.
Endangering someone's life goes way beyond playing. It was misogynistic of him at the very least, even if he himself isn't a misogynist, though it reflects very poorly on him because of how sexist that dialogue was. The dialogue alone isn't what makes me label him a rapist killer, it's the fact that he's not only a pervert prone to saying sexist things but is also willing to murder people and endanger his supposed ally's life.
Once more, it's the combination of the dialogue and the psychopathic behaviour. Either one alone, I wouldn't say the possibility of him being a rapist is well-founded but the two traits together are worrying. Don't mistake me for an unwavering Kenny loyalist, I fully acknowledge that guy is definitely not all there. A brutal, spiteful murderer and a sadist. Hell I was expecting him to try to murder Luke after all the crazyass looks he was giving everyone in A House Divided. But he never said anything to objectify women, which is why I don't see him raping anybody.
Did you miss the "you wanna kill these folks and take all their stuff?" part?
The old people shot first, that is how things are in … morethe Zombie Apocolpyse. Yeah i really didn't care anything about those old people. I didn't know them, they weren't my best friends. They were just strangers. She was dead/dying and he was a old racist asshole so i let Nate do whatever he want.
Or when he almost got Russel bitten in an effort to get an evaluation on the walker's good looks? Also the point is that all he wanted to hear about was the sexual side of things. That alone doesn't necessarily mean he'd sink to the level of rape but it does make him misogynistic
He was just playing with Russel. He may of taken it a little far, but that doesn't make him a misogynistic. I don't see how you can judge the character on maybe ten minutes of dialogue, and label him a rapist killer. I find it funny.
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What 'horrible things' has Kenny done? the only thing that immediately comes to mind is not helping Lee save Shaun from walkers - and that's about it. Everything else he did that could be seen as psychotic, he had a more than reasonable excuse for.
Did you miss the "you wanna kill these folks and take all their stuff?" part?
The old people shot first, that is how things are in … morethe Zombie Apocolpyse. Yeah i really didn't care anything about those old people. I didn't know them, they weren't my best friends. They were just strangers. She was dead/dying and he was a old racist asshole so i let Nate do whatever he want.
Or when he almost got Russel bitten in an effort to get an evaluation on the walker's good looks? Also the point is that all he wanted to hear about was the sexual side of things. That alone doesn't necessarily mean he'd sink to the level of rape but it does make him misogynistic
He was just playing with Russel. He may of taken it a little far, but that doesn't make him a misogynistic. I don't see how you can judge the character on maybe ten minutes of dialogue, and label him a rapist killer. I find it funny.
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Unless he was the one who initially attacked them, resulting in his wife's mortal wound, as the old man claimed (and I see no reason for that old man to lie), Nate didn't murder the old lady (she was left to turn - as she was later made into one of the guard dogs for She'l group). Which is even worse, when you think about it.
I personally thought his comment about 'killing them and taking their stuff' was said in poor taste, as Russell -not a short while earlier - said that his former group leader said that very same thing, which caused Russell to abandon the group, as he wanted no part of that mind set.
You see nothing wrong with murdering strangers? They shot first because they apparently recognised Nate, plus they could've just not gone in… moreto the building after getting shot at. The old guy was just taking care of his wife wasn't he? He wasn't interested in spreading his hate speech, I don't see why murdering him was necessary. As for the old lady, her dying isn't a good defense to just murdering her instead of letting her pass in peace.
Endangering someone's life goes way beyond playing. It was misogynistic of him at the very least, even if he himself isn't a misogynist, though it reflects very poorly on him because of how sexist that dialogue was. The dialogue alone isn't what makes me label him a rapist killer, it's the fact that he's not only a pervert prone to saying sexist things but is also willing to murder people and endanger his supposed ally's life.
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With all the shit that had been going on since the beginning of the end, there are no doubt countless things that people can talk about (where had they been, where are they going, what have they encountered, how did they survive so long, etc).
And even though that's how the conversation started, what did Nate focus on? The teenaged daughter, her rack, and if anyone slept with her. When Russell voices his disgust at his comments, Nate's response is (quoted from the game itself) 'Women? Ha! Okay, let me see if I can answer your question. Because...because the hunger a man has for a WOMAN is all we got left now. No laws, no jobs, ain't nothing to make us men. But they haven't eaten all the women yet'.
Then when Russell doesn't play ball - Nate deliberately places the boy's life in danger - just for fun.
Nope - can't understand why anyone would ever think that a man as good and free spirited as Nate could be seen as mentally deranged and a possible rapist.
Sometimes, you only need a few minutes to tell if there's something off about a character.
Look at the Saint Johns as a prime example of this. First time I saw them on screen, something seemed off about them (and the playthroughs I saw of this episode, none of the players took kindly to them upon first meeting; they all suspected that something wasn't quite right about them - their suspicions only getting worse the more time they spent with them). Then there was the guy on the walkie talkie - you didn't have to meet him before acknowledging that he was off his rocker. Carver, who when you first meet him, you have no idea what he's like (as everyone avoids talking about him), gives the vibe that he is a very dangerous person the moment you lay eyes on him.
It's all about the way the character is designed and how they speak. It's one of those uncanny valley moments where you know that there's something wrong with what you're seeing/hearing, but you can't place what it is, as what you're looking at/listening to seems normal.
All those folks were physically stronger than Kenny or had some advantage against him in a fight (Molly was armed with a grappler and Carver had his gun totting goons).
The one moment we see Nate in a scuffle (with Wyatt, if Wyatt stays with the car while Eddie looks for the guy they struck with the car), he can barely get his hands on the chubby hipster before said hipster slashes Nate's hand against broken glass and escapes his clutches.
You see nothing wrong with murdering strangers? They shot first
I am very good at compartmentalization. No, i do not see anything wrong with it in the Zombie Apocalypse. She was dying, and he was a racist so yeah. They shot first, and if i was shot at in the Zombie Apocalypse, i would of just killed them and not talked to them as Nate did. Life is hard in the Zombie Apocalypse. I play Rust/DayZ to give you a idea of how i think.
They shot first because they apparently recognized Nate.
Nate said he didn't do it, and he doesn't strike me as a liar. The people who attacked before had masks, therefore they could be anyone. Guilty until proven otherwise...
I don't see why murdering him was necessary. As for the old lady, her dying isn't a good defense to just murdering her instead of letting her pass in peace.
It was necessary because he was a threat. What if someone else came by, he got confused again and started shooting at them, What if he kills someone? What if it was Clementine? Then you would be partly responsible because you could have stopped him. You just don't go out and shoot at someone, then expect hey its ok guys we friends. It doesn't work that way. The old lady was gut-shot, a bullet to the brain would of been mercy. Being shot in the belly is extremely painful.
Endangering someone's life goes way beyond playing. It was misogynistic of him at the very least, even if he himself isn't a misogynist, though it reflects very poorly on him because of how sexist that dialogue was
Guys will be guys. I know there will be some guy out there, that says* I NEVER talked about a girl's boobs ever in my life*! i have, many times and you know what, that doesn't make me a bad guy. I don't go around and put women down.
The dialogue alone isn't what makes me label him a rapist killer, it's the fact that he's not only a pervert prone to saying sexist things but is also willing to murder people and endanger his supposed ally's life.
I just can't connect the dots here. So if your a "pervert" and you kill old people who shot at you, that makes you a rapist killer? 0_o
But he never said anything to objectify women, which is why I don't see him raping anybody.
Anyone can be a rapist, regardless if they do talk about a girl's rack or do not.
You see nothing wrong with murdering strangers? They shot first because they apparently recognised Nate, plus they could've just not gone in… moreto the building after getting shot at. The old guy was just taking care of his wife wasn't he? He wasn't interested in spreading his hate speech, I don't see why murdering him was necessary. As for the old lady, her dying isn't a good defense to just murdering her instead of letting her pass in peace.
Endangering someone's life goes way beyond playing. It was misogynistic of him at the very least, even if he himself isn't a misogynist, though it reflects very poorly on him because of how sexist that dialogue was. The dialogue alone isn't what makes me label him a rapist killer, it's the fact that he's not only a pervert prone to saying sexist things but is also willing to murder people and endanger his supposed ally's life.
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Not helping Lee in Episode 2, when he takes on one of the St. John Brothers, forget which one, but he just hides in the stall. Then runs off, Lee has to save his wife's life but where is Kenny? Oh yeah that is right, he is still mad you didn't help him smash Larry's head, so he treats you crap for the rest of the game.
Not helping Lee when the door falls on him at the drugstore unless you kiss his butt.
Leaving Shawn to die
Smashing Larry's head in
Stealing the food
Horrible to Ben
Letting Lee go off on his own to find Clementine unless you kiss his ass on every decision in the game.
Being a pain in the ass to deal with generally.
Season 2.
Removing Carvers head in front of Clementine, you would think he would stop and think. Gee should i be doing this in front of her. OH ITS OK i'm Kenny so i get a free pass.
What 'horrible things' has Kenny done? the only thing that immediately comes to mind is not helping Lee save Shaun from walkers - and that's about it. Everything else he did that could be seen as psychotic, he had a more than reasonable excuse for.
Jane isn't even that hot, and it's a shame that she's the most attractive survivor at this point. I'd probably give her a 6.25/10. I couldn'… moret decide between a 6/10 and a 6.5/10 so I gave her that score. RIP Carley and Stephanie, they were the hottest.
Maybe not misogynistic, but definitely sexist. And possibly a pedophile, as he wanted to know more about an underaged girls rack for mental … morewank material.
And there's no arguing that he is a loose canon and possibly deranged - given how he chased down Eddie and Wyatt in order to kill them for accidentally murdering a companion, and placed Russell's life in danger - twice- just for personal kicks.
Nate was had 500 words total in that whole DLC. So what can you learn about him? How do you know he wasn't just BSing Russel to see how he would react to certain situations? There isn't enough information to make a fair judgement on his character.
Sometimes, you only need a few minutes to tell if there's something off about a character.
Look at the Saint Johns as a prime example of … morethis. First time I saw them on screen, something seemed off about them (and the playthroughs I saw of this episode, none of the players took kindly to them upon first meeting; they all suspected that something wasn't quite right about them - their suspicions only getting worse the more time they spent with them). Then there was the guy on the walkie talkie - you didn't have to meet him before acknowledging that he was off his rocker. Carver, who when you first meet him, you have no idea what he's like (as everyone avoids talking about him), gives the vibe that he is a very dangerous person the moment you lay eyes on him.
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Nate was had 500 words total in that whole DLC. So what can you learn about him? How do you know he wasn't just BSing Russel to see how he would react to certain situations? There isn't enough information to make a fair judgement on his character.
All those folks were physically stronger than Kenny or had some advantage against him in a fight (Molly was armed with a grappler and Carver… more had his gun totting goons).
The one moment we see Nate in a scuffle (with Wyatt, if Wyatt stays with the car while Eddie looks for the guy they struck with the car), he can barely get his hands on the chubby hipster before said hipster slashes Nate's hand against broken glass and escapes his clutches.
Well Nate should of just left them but I wouldn't call him a psycho. And pretty much everyone on Earth is a psycho, you and me and pretty much everyone. We cover things up and call them something else and make it sound like it's good but it's not good. We start wars over fucking gas and shit, we eat animals when we could easily live on non-living things like chocolate, beans, pizza, fruit, bread, noodles, etc. But we go the extra step. But back on topic, Nate should of just left them alone. I would love him to return, his personality is amazing. Would love to just get in his truck and ride into the sunset.
You see nothing wrong with murdering strangers? They shot first
I am very good at compartmentalization. No, i do not see anything wr… moreong with it in the Zombie Apocalypse. She was dying, and he was a racist so yeah. They shot first, and if i was shot at in the Zombie Apocalypse, i would of just killed them and not talked to them as Nate did. Life is hard in the Zombie Apocalypse. I play Rust/DayZ to give you a idea of how i think.
They shot first because they apparently recognized Nate.
Nate said he didn't do it, and he doesn't strike me as a liar. The people who attacked before had masks, therefore they could be anyone. Guilty until proven otherwise...
I don't see why murdering him was necessary. As for the old lady, her dying isn't a good defense to just murdering her instead of letting her pass in peace.
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With all the shit that had been going on since the beginning of the end, there are no doubt countless things that people can talk about (whe… morere had they been, where are they going, what have they encountered, how did they survive so long, etc).
And even though that's how the conversation started, what did Nate focus on? The teenaged daughter, her rack, and if anyone slept with her. When Russell voices his disgust at his comments, Nate's response is (quoted from the game itself) 'Women? Ha! Okay, let me see if I can answer your question. Because...because the hunger a man has for a WOMAN is all we got left now. No laws, no jobs, ain't nothing to make us men. But they haven't eaten all the women yet'.
Then when Russell doesn't play ball - Nate deliberately places the boy's life in danger - just for fun.
Nope - can't understand why anyone would ever think that a man as good and free spirited as Nate could be seen as mentally deranged and a possible rapist.
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The guy is driving with a passenger. You just made him sound worse!
I love Nate, because i see A LOT of myself in this character. I have pretty much the same personality. Everyone has good parts and bad parts to them. Nate isn't a rapist. Seriously i laugh when i read this stuff, Why because he talked about a girls boobs? I do this, a lot of other guys do this too, should we all be on some sort of watch list?
Come on seriously. I think Nate would be a awesome member to the group. It would be so find it pretty interesting on how Nate would react with Clem. I think he would feel intimidated a bit at first, i know i would feel that way if i ran into a kid that i had to take care of. I think in the end he would do a good job, sure their would be drama but i think down deep he would do the right thing.
I don't think it is fair to label him a misogynist, over one conversation that lasted maybe a few minutes,
I liked Lilly and Molly, i found there personalities more like my own.
Kenny been beaten up at least four times i can recall. My money is on Nate.
Why not? I would...
I agree with you here, i don't think Nate would stay with the current group. I think if Nate's character was introduced it would have to be in a later season, where he develops a personal relationship with Clem or whoever, and that is the reason why he joins the group.
Huh? Did you miss the "you wanna kill these folks and take all their stuff?" part? Or when he almost got Russel bitten in an effort to get an evaluation on the walker's good looks? Also the point is that all he wanted to hear about was the sexual side of things. That alone doesn't necessarily mean he'd sink to the level of rape but it does make him misogynistic. And combined with the aforementioned psychopathic tendencies, rape becomes more likely.
Larry is fucking huge. He's probably physically the strongest character in the game. Lee's victory over Kenny is determinate. Molly is just badass as hell and grapples all over the city, you can't blame Kenny for getting served by her. She can determinately kick Lee's ass as well. Carver had the distinct advantage of being armed himself and having armed guards, so if Kenny made a move he and his loved ones were liable to get shot. Notice Kenny just stood there and waited for Carver to hit him, he didn't try to fight. We have seen Kenny get back up after having his face bashed in to the point of his eye probably being history and then proceed to make two clean knee cap shots on Carver while only having one eye. Nate on the other hand... hasn't really shown much strength or endurance as I recall.
Of course, they wouldn't.
And who wants to think that such things could possibly happen? It's very dark, but as we've seen - not all survivors are sane or kind.
Nate is a disturbed individual and knows how to sneak up on people (look how quickly he found Eddie and Wyatt without being spotted - in a truck, no less). I think he could very well stalk the group without being spotted and strike the first chance he got.
I would hope no one would.O.o
My heart immediately sunk when I heard he may show up in Season 2. If that rumor was true, you know something dark is going to happen to someone.
He found Wyatt and Eddie pretty quickly after losing them on the back roads. And (if Wyatt stays with the car), he doesn't notice Nate is even there until the guy is on him. (Wyatt barely escaped).
Maybe not misogynistic, but definitely sexist. And possibly a pedophile, as he wanted to know more about an underaged girls rack for mental wank material.
And there's no arguing that he is a loose canon and possibly deranged - given how he chased down Eddie and Wyatt in order to kill them for accidentally murdering a companion, and placed Russell's life in danger - twice- just for personal kicks.
Seriously, that guy is so hard up for some action that he attempted to pressure a teenaged boy into talking about an underaged girls breasts. In this new world where living people are scarce, what do you think he'd do if he came across a woman? Make nice with her just to be friends?
I find this rather doubtful.
The old people shot first, that is how things are in the Zombie Apocolpyse. Yeah i really didn't care anything about those old people. I didn't know them, they weren't my best friends. They were just strangers. She was dead/dying and he was a old racist asshole so i let Nate do whatever he want.
He was just playing with Russel. He may of taken it a little far, but that doesn't make him a misogynistic. I don't see how you can judge the character on maybe ten minutes of dialogue, and label him a rapist killer. I find it funny.
Nate is not the only character who has exhibited "psychopathic" tendencies, so in your rational Kenny would also be a rapist. I find it funny that everyone forgets all the horrible things Kenny has done, but they let him slide, but if Nate talks about some made up girls boobs, he is Hitler.
He was giving him a ride and asked for a little conversation. I don't see the harm, Russel is just a prude, so Nate decided to mess with him.
A TKO is still a TKO in boxing any way you look at it.
Did you forget why Nate was perusing them? Eddie killed Nate's friend, he shot him while he was taking a dump in the woods.
I think we're all forgetting the true hottie of twdg...
WTF seriously?
You see nothing wrong with murdering strangers? They shot first because they apparently recognised Nate, plus they could've just not gone into the building after getting shot at. The old guy was just taking care of his wife wasn't he? He wasn't interested in spreading his hate speech, I don't see why murdering him was necessary. As for the old lady, her dying isn't a good defense to just murdering her instead of letting her pass in peace.
Endangering someone's life goes way beyond playing. It was misogynistic of him at the very least, even if he himself isn't a misogynist, though it reflects very poorly on him because of how sexist that dialogue was. The dialogue alone isn't what makes me label him a rapist killer, it's the fact that he's not only a pervert prone to saying sexist things but is also willing to murder people and endanger his supposed ally's life.
Once more, it's the combination of the dialogue and the psychopathic behaviour. Either one alone, I wouldn't say the possibility of him being a rapist is well-founded but the two traits together are worrying. Don't mistake me for an unwavering Kenny loyalist, I fully acknowledge that guy is definitely not all there. A brutal, spiteful murderer and a sadist. Hell I was expecting him to try to murder Luke after all the crazyass looks he was giving everyone in A House Divided. But he never said anything to objectify women, which is why I don't see him raping anybody.
What 'horrible things' has Kenny done? the only thing that immediately comes to mind is not helping Lee save Shaun from walkers - and that's about it. Everything else he did that could be seen as psychotic, he had a more than reasonable excuse for.
Unless he was the one who initially attacked them, resulting in his wife's mortal wound, as the old man claimed (and I see no reason for that old man to lie), Nate didn't murder the old lady (she was left to turn - as she was later made into one of the guard dogs for She'l group). Which is even worse, when you think about it.
I personally thought his comment about 'killing them and taking their stuff' was said in poor taste, as Russell -not a short while earlier - said that his former group leader said that very same thing, which caused Russell to abandon the group, as he wanted no part of that mind set.
With all the shit that had been going on since the beginning of the end, there are no doubt countless things that people can talk about (where had they been, where are they going, what have they encountered, how did they survive so long, etc).
And even though that's how the conversation started, what did Nate focus on? The teenaged daughter, her rack, and if anyone slept with her. When Russell voices his disgust at his comments, Nate's response is (quoted from the game itself) 'Women? Ha! Okay, let me see if I can answer your question. Because...because the hunger a man has for a WOMAN is all we got left now. No laws, no jobs, ain't nothing to make us men. But they haven't eaten all the women yet'.
Then when Russell doesn't play ball - Nate deliberately places the boy's life in danger - just for fun.
Nope - can't understand why anyone would ever think that a man as good and free spirited as Nate could be seen as mentally deranged and a possible rapist.
Sometimes, you only need a few minutes to tell if there's something off about a character.
Look at the Saint Johns as a prime example of this. First time I saw them on screen, something seemed off about them (and the playthroughs I saw of this episode, none of the players took kindly to them upon first meeting; they all suspected that something wasn't quite right about them - their suspicions only getting worse the more time they spent with them). Then there was the guy on the walkie talkie - you didn't have to meet him before acknowledging that he was off his rocker. Carver, who when you first meet him, you have no idea what he's like (as everyone avoids talking about him), gives the vibe that he is a very dangerous person the moment you lay eyes on him.
It's all about the way the character is designed and how they speak. It's one of those uncanny valley moments where you know that there's something wrong with what you're seeing/hearing, but you can't place what it is, as what you're looking at/listening to seems normal.
Jeez she looks gorked in that scene.
I wonder if the resemblance to Paula Dean was intentional.
All those folks were physically stronger than Kenny or had some advantage against him in a fight (Molly was armed with a grappler and Carver had his gun totting goons).
The one moment we see Nate in a scuffle (with Wyatt, if Wyatt stays with the car while Eddie looks for the guy they struck with the car), he can barely get his hands on the chubby hipster before said hipster slashes Nate's hand against broken glass and escapes his clutches.
BWAHAHAHA!
I am very good at compartmentalization. No, i do not see anything wrong with it in the Zombie Apocalypse. She was dying, and he was a racist so yeah. They shot first, and if i was shot at in the Zombie Apocalypse, i would of just killed them and not talked to them as Nate did. Life is hard in the Zombie Apocalypse. I play Rust/DayZ to give you a idea of how i think.
Nate said he didn't do it, and he doesn't strike me as a liar. The people who attacked before had masks, therefore they could be anyone. Guilty until proven otherwise...
It was necessary because he was a threat. What if someone else came by, he got confused again and started shooting at them, What if he kills someone? What if it was Clementine? Then you would be partly responsible because you could have stopped him. You just don't go out and shoot at someone, then expect hey its ok guys we friends. It doesn't work that way. The old lady was gut-shot, a bullet to the brain would of been mercy. Being shot in the belly is extremely painful.
Guys will be guys. I know there will be some guy out there, that says* I NEVER talked about a girl's boobs ever in my life*! i have, many times and you know what, that doesn't make me a bad guy. I don't go around and put women down.
I just can't connect the dots here. So if your a "pervert" and you kill old people who shot at you, that makes you a rapist killer? 0_o
Anyone can be a rapist, regardless if they do talk about a girl's rack or do not.
Gee really??
Season 1
Being a pain in the ass to deal with generally.
Season 2.
Woah, dislikes for that? Jane is not hot though, otherwise you have low standards. The hottest now is defo Bonnie. Jane is a strong six.
My Lee got wooped by Kenny.
He's funny though, defo someone you could just sit down with and have a laugh.
Nate was had 500 words total in that whole DLC. So what can you learn about him? How do you know he wasn't just BSing Russel to see how he would react to certain situations? There isn't enough information to make a fair judgement on his character.
You do realize that works both ways, right?
Kenny had a gun when he got steamrolled by Molly train.
All aboard, ready to punch your ticket.
Well Nate should of just left them but I wouldn't call him a psycho. And pretty much everyone on Earth is a psycho, you and me and pretty much everyone. We cover things up and call them something else and make it sound like it's good but it's not good. We start wars over fucking gas and shit, we eat animals when we could easily live on non-living things like chocolate, beans, pizza, fruit, bread, noodles, etc. But we go the extra step. But back on topic, Nate should of just left them alone. I would love him to return, his personality is amazing. Would love to just get in his truck and ride into the sunset.
You do realise Russel is in University and that the girl is not underaged?