"You two sure look like a match" Luke and Nick's friendship
When Kenny said this in Episode 2, was he implying that Luke and Nick are a gay couple? I think Nick might actually have feelings for Luke, seeing as how defensive he got and how emotionally angry he can be. Luke's perfect for him. They've been friends for many years, he's friendly, sweet, understanding, and could ease the sorrow of any man or woman.
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Is this like another version of...you know who?
No, it's just a question to bring about a discussion. That's what this forum is for, after all.
Alright then. Here's my answer: I don't think Luke has feelings for Nick, but that is just my opinion and prep.
I don't think he was implying a romance between the 2... he was probably just joking.
I'm pretty sure everyone would react the same way as Nick reacted when told that you and someone look like a couple.
To me, it just seemed like Kenny was making fun of them. I don't think he actually meant that he thinks they're dating.
Well Kenny was staying with a gay couple so i guess he jokingly said that to them.
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They've been friends for about 20 years. Don't you think he'd make his move already if he was gay?
Maybe he doesn't like being called gay. If i was nick i probably would have punched Kenny for that comment. It doesn't matter if Nick is gay or not. It isn't any of Kenny's business. He said that to intentionally piss them off, and it was a homophobic comment.
That is the way i took it too,, personally i took it as a insult.
Kenny's saying he boats Nuke.
Heres how i see it, Nick likes Luke more than friends but Luke doesn't feel the same way, i think this because Nick always defends Luke, and Luke doesn't even agknowlage that Nick is dead ( if he was killed in episode 2) but Nicks the one making the flirty jokes like "coming to tuck me in" and hes the one who talks anout Luke all the time and always sides with Luke
no, thats the exact reason why, hes been friends for 20 years with Luke, wouldn't want to risk losing it even though he probably wouldn't
Alright
You're free to your own theories and opinions but..
They've been best friends for over twenty years. Luke was there when Nick lost his mom and Nick was there when Luke lost his own family. Most people don't have the opportunity to see their friends or loved ones anymore at this point in the ZA. Nick is also mentioned to be depressed with possible suicidal tendencies -- Luke is like an anchor to him now, the last he has of his old life. Of course he would be defensive of him.
Neither does anyone else in the group (aside from a question from Carlos which is later dropped and never mentioned again). It's poor writing on TTG's part. I suspect we'll be getting an actual reaction in the future from him.
A lot of friends do that when they're extremely close.
Guys, they aren't together. Do you really think Telltale would put Luke in a relationship with a determinant character? Nick is going to die, just like all of the determinate characters do. Matthew and Walter are the only gay couple that Telltale announced, and if Luke and Nick were a couple, they would have told us by now.
I think it's very, very possible Nick could have feelings for Luke, but I don't see them as reciprocated. And I wouldn't really want them to be, because I disagree, I don't think Luke would be good for Nick. Personally I think Luke tends to patronize Nick and doesn't really have respect for him as an equal. Nick talks a lot about how much he admires Luke and how much he wishes he was like him, but you don't get any of that from Luke's end. You get stuff like "I'm worried about that kid, I don't trust him to tie his own shoes." That's not a balanced relationship and it wouldn't be healthy, romantically, either.
Personally I think it would be a very wise and interesting move for Telltale to make Nick gay and have feelings for Luke, and there's a lot of valid evidence that could support it even now, but I just don't see a romantic relationship between them happening, especially since Nick is determinant.
Also, just as a warning, we've had threads like these before and they've become VERY controversial, so be careful.
I don't think he said it to piss them off? He only just met them, he had no real reason to make mean comments yet. My assumption was that he'd been living with Walter and Matthew so long that when he sees two guys together his thought is, "Oh, maybe they're dating."
Possibly? Idk, speaking from experience, when it comes to having a crush on a friend that stuff can be really nerve-wracking because you don't want to ruin what you have. It makes it especially hard if you have low self-esteem, like Nick does. And with that low self-esteem, I have trouble imagining him as being very self-accepting if he was gay. So it might be something he'd keep to himself.
Or maybe he tried to and was rejected. Ha, that would be sad.
No. Please don't start this again
Why the fuck not? It would be an interesting story, and I wouldn't even care if they did start being a couple or something...as long as it would be at the right moment.
I don't understand what you mean by "Why the fuck not"? I'm in favor of this. I think it's very possible for Nick to be gay and have unrequited feelings for Luke, and it's an addition to his character I would like to see.
My only qualm here is that I don't think Luke would feel the same way.
I meant, why not, why can't it happen? It's not a bad idea. I see your point of view, and I agree.
Luke doesn't talk about Nick the way Nick talks about him. They're old friends, yeah, and they do care for each other a lot, but I get the feeling that Luke feels a sense of reluctant responsibility for Nick, whereas Nick admires and envies Luke a lot and has expressed this multiple times. Their friendship isn't as balanced as a lot of people think it is.
I'm not trying to villainize Luke here or criticize people who ship them. I just feel like, realistically, it's probably going to be unrequited. And like I said, I personally prefer it that way--not because I don't want to see gay relationships, trust me, I do, but I just don't see this as being a good pair. I don't think Luke intends to be hurtful with some of the patronizing things he has said to/about Nick ("I don't trust him to tie his own shoes" "Keep on an eye on that kid for me" "Are you kidding me? If Clem can do it you can"), but it clearly has an effect on Nick nonetheless ("I wish I was like him, I wish I could just keep moving on, but I'm just not built like that"), so I worry that if they were to have a romantic relationship it might be escalated and that would be toxic for Nick's self-esteem.
Again, I agree with you. I think Nick would be more insecure and unsure of himself if he was with Luke. He'd probably just keep thinking that Luke doesn't feel the same, or Luke feels bad for him and doesn't want him to feel hurt. But, I would actually ship Nuke if it was confirmed...
Oh, well, yeah, I think it would be an interesting dynamic to see. I wouldn't be against it if it happened. I'd just feel really bad because Nick is my favorite character and I'd hate to see him struggling with yet another issue.
I think Kenny said that because of just living in the same household as a gay couple, and so he said it because he wanted them to make sure they knew he had nothing against gay people, in case they were feeling slightly uncomfortable because of it and just didn't raise up the confidence to ask.
It's Kenny. Like he says, crazy shit just comes out of his mouth sometimes. And a couple more years in the apocalypse didn't make him more well-mannered.
He didn't like Luke, Nick, or the rest of the cabin group from the get-go. They're group of strangers, they met at gunpoint, and they're rivals for Clem's loyalty. He was sizing them up and pushing their buttons. That's why when they confront him about it, he responds with a coy "I'm just sayin' you look like good friends is all." He was expecting that kind of a reaction and got a kick out of it.
This might be a weird example, but it's kinda like in TV shows and movies when a guy meets his recent ex's new boyfriend and acts like a dick to him. Not anything major, just small jabs here and there to rile them up and establish dominance and control.
I don't know. I really don't view it that way. I mean, just before that moment he made a light-hearted (if kind of gross) joke. And yeah, it fell flat, but I assumed that "match" comment was another attempt to make small talk that also fell flat.
It's hard to say because Kenny has made some pretty sly digs, but you can usually tell pretty easily that they're such. Like when he says to Nick, "That's right, yer a man", it's very clearly sarcastic. But this comment didn't sound sarcastic or malicious to me like that one had, you know?
I mean... Kenny's been living with a gay couple for a while now, and Walter clearly really liked Kenny so I can't imagine Kenny saying things to make him and Matthew uncomfortable. He's not the most sensitive guy in the world, but he's not so pig-headed and disrespectful that he'd make comments like that after a really kind and gracious gay couple took him and his girlfriend into their home and gave them food, shelter, and support when they needed it.
I kind of feel (and hope) that Luke not mentioning Nick's death was just a mistake on the writers' part, because after how worried he was about finding Nick in the beginning of episode 2 (if you chose Nick and not Pete) it just feels out-of-character that he wouldn't care.
However, I have to agree with you. If anything's going on here, it's that Nick has feelings for Luke but it's not reciprocated. Like I said below, a lot of Luke's comments to/about Nick are very patronizing, like he finds him frustrating and childish. But Nick shows nothing but admiration and envy for Luke. By episode 3 it's nothing short of hero worship.
Like others said before, Kenny seems like that guy who makes assumptions. "You're... you know... urban." being the most famous example. Luke and Nick seem close when he first meets them (they both go outside together to do some stuff, sit next to each other at dinner, etc) so he's going to assume from his time living with Matthew/Walter that they could be together and wants to get that out in the open. But idk. And I think Luke and Nick poke fun at his "joke" later when Nick asks if Luke is going to tuck him in lol.
But I think Nick could have feelings for Luke, but they are not returned. Luke just seems like he's unsure of how to "deal with" Nick, but knowing each other for 20 years must make them very very close friends.
I don't think so, to me it was like Kenny was trying to get them mad, kind of degrade them so he seemed superior.
No! I don't mean that being gay is degrading, just- you know what I mean.
Regardless if they are into each other or not, i'd say that there is defiantly an imbalance in their relationship, at least that we know of, chances are that Luke's lack of concern for Nick is just a mistake on the writers part, but it could be easily fixed with them mentioning that if Nick was alive, Luke couldn't be all best buddies with Nick because he needed to focus on more important things such as saving the whole group. and if Nick died, Luke found out when he talked to the group shortly after talking to Clem and he was upset at the moment but having the ability to move on quickly tries to ignore his distress in order to focus on saving the group.
I have a theory that, if Nick died, Luke saw him as a walker back at the ski lodge (because no one shot Nick in the head after he was bitten), and had to shoot him. So he's not talking about it because he's trying to block it out and focus on the group, in typical Luke fashion.
that's also a really good theory, I think if this was a writing error on telltales part, they could easily patch it up with some really cool ways such as the one you just listed
Lol he was clearly trying to piss them off. DO you know Kenny's character at all ?
I lose a little respect for this forum every time I come on and see theories like this. This is pretty much the whole reason why I rarely come on here anymore. Anyways, enjoy the 3 week wait until news because clearly you guys have run out of stuff to talk about.