A way to solve TellTale's determiant problem

Okay, let's say in the next episode (this is not what I think will happen, only an example), a major part of the story line is for Nick to be captured by bandits, and held for ransom. Of course Nick is a determinant, so it wouldn't work for people who didn't save Nick. How about, if in the game for people who didn't save Nick, Mike replaces Nick in that storyline. They wouldn't even have to record a whole different group of audio clips, the bandits could just be like "We have your friend!" they don't even know who Nick or Mike are anyway. I've only played through part of the first Mass Effect game, but I've heard, if one of your partners who is vital to the story dies in the first game, a different character of the same species replaces them in the next game. I think TellTale could do this.

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  • That just creates a new problem, because now you have Mike as a determinant character(I'm assuming whoever the bandits capture dies)

  • Just thinking the same thing.

    So how would you pull it off, Wanderer?

    That just creates a new problem, because now you have Mike as a determinant character(I'm assuming whoever the bandits capture dies)

  • edited June 2014

    Not necessarily. Whoever they captured wouldn't have to die.

    That just creates a new problem, because now you have Mike as a determinant character(I'm assuming whoever the bandits capture dies)

  • I think Telltale already does something like this. For example, the storylines of Doug and Carley were similar and ended the same way.

  • Yeah, but the difference is either of them could have died. I was talking about having a non determinant fill a determinant's slot.

    I think Telltale already does something like this. For example, the storylines of Doug and Carley were similar and ended the same way.

  • (If he is alive) Nick can kill the character he is supposed to replace, and if Nick has died in previous episodes, the new character will not be killed by Nick and therefore has the ability to take his place. I also thought about this too, I'm glad somebody mentioned it on the forums.

  • That's a good idea.

    FlyKittyFly posted: »

    (If he is alive) Nick can kill the character he is supposed to replace, and if Nick has died in previous episodes, the new character will no

  • Also, I forgot to mention, they already sort of did this with Christa and Ben, so they could do it again!

  • edited June 2014

    Oh okay. But it seems pointless to have a non-determinant character fill a determinant character's slot when a determinant character's role provides little to the story anyways.

    Yeah, but the difference is either of them could have died. I was talking about having a non determinant fill a determinant's slot.

  • Well, my reasoning is I just don't think it's fair to people who saved them, that they don't get to enjoy their part in story.

    Oh okay. But it seems pointless to have a non-determinant character fill a determinant character's slot when a determinant character's role provides little to the story anyways.

  • Then Nick is still there and the branching continues.

    Not necessarily. Whoever they captured wouldn't have to die.

  • edited June 2014

    I agree with you, but I think a better solution would be for Telltale to expand the storylines of determinant characters if you save them.

    Well, my reasoning is I just don't think it's fair to people who saved them, that they don't get to enjoy their part in story.

  • edited June 2014

    Of course it wouldn't have to be Mike, they pulled of determinants surviving in Mass Effect, with another character being introduced if the original dies.

    Then Nick is still there and the branching continues.

  • Can we make Nick a double determinant?

  • I agere, I agree.

    BenUseful posted: »

    Can we make Nick a double determinant?

  • Yeah, that could work also.

    I agree with you, but I think a better solution would be for Telltale to expand the storylines of determinant characters if you save them.

  • That doesn't solve the problem, Telltale would still try to kill him the third time. We need him alive.

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    ChoicesMustMatter

    BenUseful posted: »

    Can we make Nick a double determinant?

  • TripleDeterminant

    Rafoli posted: »

    That doesn't solve the problem, Telltale would still try to kill him the third time. We need him alive. SaveNick ChoicesMustMatter

  • We have to go deeper

  • It could be that if they capture Nick, he dies, and if they capture Mike, they save him.

    Then Nick is still there and the branching continues.

  • I considered that too.

    It could be that if they capture Nick, he dies, and if they capture Mike, they save him.

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    That just creates a new problem, because now you have Mike as a determinant character(I'm assuming whoever the bandits capture dies)

  • In a story that I'm writing, with choices yes, it's not Tales of Europe, it's something unreleased.. When I make a character determinant I pass his dialogue over to someone who wouldn't have gotten much dialogue.. Let's say like.. There might be a choice between saving someone or not.. If he dies someone else gets his dialogue.. If he lives he'll have his dialogue.. So a person can either be the mastermind behind everything or dead.

  • I would love it if one of the determinant characters only was determinant in order to save another character down the line. For example, Nick could have been offed in Episode 2. Say, in Episode 5, Mike is about to be devoured by a herd of walkers. If you saved Nick, he will come in last minute to save Mike. If you let Nick die, there's nothing you can do but watch Mike die. Not really a choice, sure, but it gives more impact to a determinant like Nick than just to have him hang around for a while.

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