Yeah, but it's ironic because, if Kenny was in a group with Walter and Matthew(who were gay couple), then why would he make fun of Luke and Nick being gay? Despite how much people like Kenny, there's no doubt that he really wouldn't be a good friend.
I don't think so, to me it was like Kenny was trying to get them mad, kind of degrade them so he seemed superior.
No! I don't mean that being gay is degrading, just- you know what I mean.
I lose a little respect for this forum every time I come on and see theories like this. This is pretty much the whole reason why I rarely co… moreme on here anymore. Anyways, enjoy the 3 week wait until news because clearly you guys have run out of stuff to talk about.
Agreed. Kenny can say stuff without thinking sometimes, but I don't think he's so insensitive that he'd mock the orientation of the men who took in him and his girlfriend and offered them so much hospitality. Clearly Walter liked him enough to talk highly of him. I doubt he would speak that way if there were issues of homophobia going on.
Yeah, but it's ironic because, if Kenny was in a group with Walter and Matthew(who were gay couple), then why would he make fun of Luke and Nick being gay? Despite how much people like Kenny, there's no doubt that he really wouldn't be a good friend.
I lose a little respect for this forum every time I come on and see theories like this. This is pretty much the whole reason why I rarely co… moreme on here anymore. Anyways, enjoy the 3 week wait until news because clearly you guys have run out of stuff to talk about.
There's a difference to why kenny sai on the truck and what he said at the lodge at the lodge he wasn't pissed off at the cabin group at the truck he was
I don't know. I really don't view it that way. I mean, just before that moment he made a light-hearted (if kind of gross) joke. And yeah, it… more fell flat, but I assumed that "match" comment was another attempt to make small talk that also fell flat.
It's hard to say because Kenny has made some pretty sly digs, but you can usually tell pretty easily that they're such. Like when he says to Nick, "That's right, yer a man", it's very clearly sarcastic. But this comment didn't sound sarcastic or malicious to me like that one had, you know?
I mean... Kenny's been living with a gay couple for a while now, and Walter clearly really liked Kenny so I can't imagine Kenny saying things to make him and Matthew uncomfortable. He's not the most sensitive guy in the world, but he's not so pig-headed and disrespectful that he'd make comments like that after a really kind and gracious gay couple took him and his girlfriend into their home and gave them food, shelter, and support when they needed it.
Kenny seemed to like Walter a lot, calling him "one smart son of a bitch" and complimenting his cooking. Kenny was also devastated when Walter died. If you go to him for help, he says "Walt" really sad, then flies into a rage and tries to shoot Carver a few more times as he calls him a "motherfucker." From the interaction we saw between those two, it looked like they were actually pretty good friends.
Yeah, but it's ironic because, if Kenny was in a group with Walter and Matthew(who were gay couple), then why would he make fun of Luke and Nick being gay? Despite how much people like Kenny, there's no doubt that he really wouldn't be a good friend.
Well, yeah. That's my point. It was a weird introduction, but he wasn't pissed off at them. There was no real reason for him to try and put Luke and Nick down at that point.
There's a difference to why kenny sai on the truck and what he said at the lodge at the lodge he wasn't pissed off at the cabin group at the truck he was
It's Kenny, guys. He's Floridian, crazy shit is coming out of his mouth.
But seriously, I can see Nick having feelings for Luke but he su… morerely won't ever tell him. But it could also be that he admires him a lot.
I see them as close friends but I wouldn't mind if Nick had feelings for Luke.
Why do you feel the need to reassure your view on the matter, by stating that the majority would agree with you on the matter ? Why can't you be an individual and talk on behalf of yourself.
I'm quite sure Luke isn't into guys. He made a comment in ep 1 about liking girls. "I'm an expert at talking to girls who don't wanna talk to me." And I guess I just don't think in slash terms, because I hadn't even considered the possibility that Nick likes Luke until I started reading about it on these forums.
I didn't think twice about that Kenny comment. Kenny is very up front. If he was trying to insult Luke and Nick, they would have known. He was just being annoying in his own adorable, un-self aware way. I think his comment says way more about him than about Luke or Nick. But now that I think of it, it COULD be that Nick has a little crush on Luke. Or it could just be that Nick became a little more attached to Luke once Luke became his only surviving framily (friend/family). We'll probably never know.
Yeah, but it's ironic because, if Kenny was in a group with Walter and Matthew(who were gay couple), then why would he make fun of Luke and Nick being gay? Despite how much people like Kenny, there's no doubt that he really wouldn't be a good friend.
I mean... I guess it depends on the person, but people get the most defensive when they feel they need to protect something in some way. I dunno, Luke just didn't even really react to the comment, but I feel like it's very valid to believe that Nick may have reacted that way because he panicked and wanted to idea something.
Like i said, it depends on the person. I'm sure there are people out there who get defensive over things they needn't.
I mean... I guess it depends on the person, but people get the most defensive when they feel they need to protect something in some way. I d… moreunno, Luke just didn't even really react to the comment, but I feel like it's very valid to believe that Nick may have reacted that way because he panicked and wanted to idea something.
Like i said, it depends on the person. I'm sure there are people out there who get defensive over things they needn't.
Well, yeah, Nick is quite clearly insecure in his manhood. I think a lot of that has to do with his father absence in his life. He's very Freudian, bless 'im.
I mean, yeah, it could be just that, or it could be a little more complex--being gay while already having insecurities on being a man would no doubt weaken his already flimsy self-esteem, and the defensiveness of now wanting to be found out, that I mentioned before, all stems from the fact that he doesn't want to be perceived as less than a man.
Well, to me, it was a reaction that said
"Hey buddy, I know what you're saying, don't call me that!"
Assuming that he isn't gay, it's probably insulted his 'man hood' in his kind of terms.
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I'll assume the picture's about brushing teeth...
Yeah, but it's ironic because, if Kenny was in a group with Walter and Matthew(who were gay couple), then why would he make fun of Luke and Nick being gay? Despite how much people like Kenny, there's no doubt that he really wouldn't be a good friend.
Yeah, usually one would want to brush their teeth after that...
/bad joke
Alrighty then don't let the door hit on the way back out I guess
Agreed. Kenny can say stuff without thinking sometimes, but I don't think he's so insensitive that he'd mock the orientation of the men who took in him and his girlfriend and offered them so much hospitality. Clearly Walter liked him enough to talk highly of him. I doubt he would speak that way if there were issues of homophobia going on.
Nobody forced you to come here and complain, so yeah...
There's a difference to why kenny sai on the truck and what he said at the lodge at the lodge he wasn't pissed off at the cabin group at the truck he was
Kenny seemed to like Walter a lot, calling him "one smart son of a bitch" and complimenting his cooking. Kenny was also devastated when Walter died. If you go to him for help, he says "Walt" really sad, then flies into a rage and tries to shoot Carver a few more times as he calls him a "motherfucker." From the interaction we saw between those two, it looked like they were actually pretty good friends.
Well, yeah. That's my point. It was a weird introduction, but he wasn't pissed off at them. There was no real reason for him to try and put Luke and Nick down at that point.
It's Kenny, guys. He's Floridian, crazy shit is coming out of his mouth.
But seriously, I can see Nick having feelings for Luke but he surely won't ever tell him. But it could also be that he admires him a lot.
I see them as close friends but I wouldn't mind if Nick had feelings for Luke.
Well said!
Why do you feel the need to reassure your view on the matter, by stating that the majority would agree with you on the matter ? Why can't you be an individual and talk on behalf of yourself.
I'm quite sure Luke isn't into guys. He made a comment in ep 1 about liking girls. "I'm an expert at talking to girls who don't wanna talk to me." And I guess I just don't think in slash terms, because I hadn't even considered the possibility that Nick likes Luke until I started reading about it on these forums.
I didn't think twice about that Kenny comment. Kenny is very up front. If he was trying to insult Luke and Nick, they would have known. He was just being annoying in his own adorable, un-self aware way. I think his comment says way more about him than about Luke or Nick. But now that I think of it, it COULD be that Nick has a little crush on Luke. Or it could just be that Nick became a little more attached to Luke once Luke became his only surviving framily (friend/family). We'll probably never know.
I think he was just trying to insult them. When you call people something they aren't they'll get defensive.
Plus Kenny was already originally suspicious with him and Nick. He was probably just sizing them up, looking for a reaction.
I mean... I guess it depends on the person, but people get the most defensive when they feel they need to protect something in some way. I dunno, Luke just didn't even really react to the comment, but I feel like it's very valid to believe that Nick may have reacted that way because he panicked and wanted to idea something.
Like i said, it depends on the person. I'm sure there are people out there who get defensive over things they needn't.
Well, to me, it was a reaction that said
"Hey buddy, I know what you're saying, don't call me that!"
Assuming that he isn't gay, it's probably insulted his 'man hood' in his kind of terms.
Well, yeah, Nick is quite clearly insecure in his manhood. I think a lot of that has to do with his father absence in his life. He's very Freudian, bless 'im.
I mean, yeah, it could be just that, or it could be a little more complex--being gay while already having insecurities on being a man would no doubt weaken his already flimsy self-esteem, and the defensiveness of now wanting to be found out, that I mentioned before, all stems from the fact that he doesn't want to be perceived as less than a man.