Has Been Done To Death But....{Carver And Kenny}
Did you stay and watch the Carver ending of episode 3 season 2?
I didn't, it would prove Carver was right about Clementine
In my mind anyway
And I didn't want to let him win that
you? and reasons?
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I did at first, because I wanted to see what happened.
Now I just leave, so Clementine doesn't have to see that and like you said, can prove Carver is wrong.
I did because I wanted to see.
My reasons were a bit more complicated than "I wanted to watch Carver die." I did it to (hopefully) prove a point to everyone that Clementine is no longer a sweet innocent little girl. She's jaded and indifferent to death now. I wanted to speak through action.
My wish was that Kenny would take note of my presence and halt that... display. I now know something about Kenny though that few others do.
My Clem is a hardened Survivalist. After all he has done, I wanted to finish him off myself, So I stayed there and watched.
I chose to stay and watch, just to double check and make sure he actually died.
I didn't care about proving Carver wrong.
I just didn't want my Clem to see something like that.
Staying and watching was just amazing. I think Telltale overdid themselves with that scene, it is definitely a pivotal moment in this season. I stayed because I wanted to at least look Carver in the eye when he died, considering we had officially brought about his destruction.
Nope, I didn't watch. As soon as the option came up to leave I took it and I'm glad I did. I honestly saw no reason to let Clementine watch, she's already seen her fair share of violent deaths, one more wouldn't make her any more or less tough, and seeing how much she hated the meat locker scene in season 1, I felt there was no reason to let her go through that again. Plus like you said, staying would've proved Carver right and I wasn't going to let him have that satisfaction. I can't even bring myself to let her watch in my other save files, but watching it on YouTube really scared me, not because his death actually scared me, but because of Clementine's reaction, it was just too cold and makes me fear for her future if she does watch it.
I made Clementine leave.
As a player, I was curious to see what would have happened if I stayed, but I ultimately still made Clementine leave. While it's a tough world out there and sometimes morally questionable events occur, my Clementine is not a cold, hateful person. I did not want to prove Carver right by making her witness and enjoy watching him get his face bashed in with a crowbar. Like @Espurr said, her reaction when she does stay is dark. Way too dark for the person I want Clementine to be.
I stayed because I thought I would be granted the ability to talk Kenny out of it... needless to say I wasn't paying attention.
I stayed, all four of us needed closure. I couldn't give less of a damn if I "proved Carver right", like that matters once his face is crushed. Besides, I don't take his character seriously.
I stayed because clementine has to be ready for the bad stuff that might to happen later on. Because if she isn't hardened enough, i could mean life or death for her later on. You cant be innocent in this word because the ones who are don't survive.
I hope the group reacts to our choice, be it in a positive or negative way, just... react to the protagonist.
If you don't see the body...
I stayed because it was cold outside.
Somebody give this man a prize!
I had the same reasoning.
I accidentally stayed because I noticed Carver had a gun still and I didn't want Kenny to get hurt. I didn't want to watch his face get smashed in.
When I think about it I can't think of a honest, justifiable reason to why I stayed other than making sure Carver was indeed dead. The brutality didn't really surprise me (Kenny did say it was going to get messy), but what did interest me is how Clementines reaction changed during the beating.
At first Clem is showing no expression during the first couple of initial blows, then she started to cringe and grimace at the brutality as Kenny continued; finally she briefly shut her eyes and assumed a expression that I could only equate to as... resolve. I think this could be interpreted in a couple of ways, but I honestly don't think it will personally affect Clem. However I definitely think that a couple of the cabin members may see Clementine in a different light, which may result in her being shunned in some form or another.
Clem stayed and watched for me. There's no telling what Clem could see further down the road. Maybe seeing that will make her somehow ready for whatever else she may see. But it's okay though. Lee said so.![Optional title Alt text](http://i.imgur.com/hPAFYa8.png)
I stayed and watched that piece of shit get his head crushed. I was basically in blood rage on him after Alvin died in that control room, including all of the shit Carver has caused and done, I was sick of his crap. Clementine is going to see messed up stuff in the future anyway, if Clem was still that little 9 year old not being able to deal with violence, then my choice would've been different.
Because your picture wasn't scary enough.
I stayed because I didn't know that Rebecca was also staying and I didn't want Kenny to be alone in case something happened.
I stayed and watched since I hated Carver and I knew Clem hated him too plus Carver can claim Clementine is like him all he wants since I and everyone else here know that's not true
I can totally see Luke bringing this up in future episodes
yes, though I kinda thought that Melissa hutch didn't do her voice at that moment all badass, it should've been a lil more bland.... like less emotional but not in a serial killer psycho way. just like she feels like she needs to see. like she needed to see he was really dead, or to finally show that she wasn't that little girl that people are seeing. or some deep shit like that
yeah, I stil wanted to see but I thought I could probably make him stop or change the way he killed him, from fucked up ( I thought he was going to like chop him up or somethingidk..) to just simply bullet and that it. I thought maybe It could've been like in season one depending on what you choose Kenny would react, like in the train................. and also thought maybe I could get a shot in there...
Plus, if you tell Luke to shoot Carver, a 'Luke will remember that' message will pop up.
Left cause i thought someone * cough * Nick ,Sarah,Carlos * cough * might need my help and would die if i wasn't there to help ,otherwise i would have stayed , but actually i'm glad i didn't cause then when i saw Carver's death scene it just didn't felt right.
Stayed. I think it's an important piece of character development. I want to see how the loss of innocence changes her. Still not sure whether or not that will be the path I take on my canon playthrough.
It was disgusting as hell, though. You could see teeth in where his nose used to be and it looks like his eyeballs were completely squashed.
I felt as though when you leave it didn't feel right, especially since they cut off right before the first blow.
I feel like I'm in the heavy minority but I actually made Clementine leave. It took me a while but eventually I realized that I would only prove Carver's point by staying to watch him suffer. My Clementine is nothing like Carver. She's been through some shit, but that doesn't mean she'll watch a now defenseless man getting his face smashed in.
All I'm saying is that my Clem at least still has some bits of her season 1 version left buried beneath her new fighter-mentality. And it's exactly those bits I aim to cherish as much as possible without risking her life.
This is really interesting how people have different views ^^ one of the things I adore about these games is seeing other peoples choices and their reasons for it
Did you notice if you choose the dialog option, "I'm not going anywhere." It says that "They will remember that."(meaning the group) and if you say "Kenny, Please don't do this." It says "Kenny will remember that" instead?
People are all like "Oh I didn't want Clementine seeing that". What y'all they fail to realise you're playing AS Clementine here. And if I'm in Clementine's position, at 11, I'm staying behind and then regretting staying behind later; it's a situation of any other little kid. So many people telling you no you should leave, of COURSE you're gonna wanna see - you just won't actually have wanted to after.
On top of that, Clementine has been through enough shit by now that seeing Kenny beat the shit out of the guy who hit her twice, killed two of her friends (at least), and ruined Kenny's face isn't gonna be detrimental to her at all. No, fuck that guy.
Of course I stayed. My Clementine ain't no pussy.
Back in SE1EP2, when you choose to kill Larry, Clementine will close her eyes and run in the corner, yelling "I DON'T WANNA WATCH!".
In SE2EP3, if you stay to watch Carver's death, you can see her cold and slighting star at Carver, whose skull was breaking in.
It sums up all the reasons why I left.
fuck yeah
i let her watch shes seen worse
There wasn't any reason for Clementine to stay and watch. Watching a mentally disturbed man brutally beat someone has no benefits. Clementine isn't like Kenny or Carver. The only thing Clementine would gain from watching would be her becoming more desensitized and careless towards humanity, which isn't good at all or what Lee would've wanted.