Do you think Luke will kill?
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I just wanted to say that near the end, Luke didn't want to kill Carver, despite the fact that he was, well, evil.
Do you think he'll get over this feeling of 'I won't kill anyone'?
I could imagine him accidentally killing someone, which would be ironic, as he scolded Nick for killing, even if it wasn't completely intentional. To be honest, I could see this being Kenny.
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Thanks for staying with me. This is how I think it may go:
Kenny and Luke are arguing, it's getting very tense.
Kenny: Listen, asshole! If you don't like how this group's going, then FUCK OFF!
Kenny shoves Luke.
Luke: Calm the fuck down, okay? Just... calm the FUCK down!
Kenny: I said, GET OUT OF HERE!
Kenny lunges for Luke's machete, which is in his hand.
Kenny: You sonuvabitch! Fuck off, ya' here me?! GET OUTTA HERE!
Lukes swings his free hand at Kenny's face. Kenny grunts and swings a punch of his own. Luke barely dodges.
Jane:Stop this, you idiots, this is getting out of hand!
Kenny looks towards Jane
Kenny: You know what? You can piss off too. Go with this asshole right here!
Luke drops his machete and pulls out his pistol, aiming it at Kenny's head.
Clementine: Luke, NO!
Kenny turns and his eyes go wide.
Kenny: Get that goddamn gun out of my-
Kenny swings a punch, aiming for Luke's gut.
Luke pulls the trigger. Kenny falls to the floor.
So, what do you think?
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MERHEHHEHEHAH...
Luke is too big of a wussy to do that.
MERHEHEHEHHE.
Or is he?
Lee once said:
"When things get taken away, people do crazy shit."
Maybe Luke'll lose Nick in Episode 4, we never know. He IS determinant, after all.
Luke is too much of a baby to even think about holding a gun on Kenny.
That would make Kenny determinant.
People thought Ben was just a baby. He stood up to Kenny. We know he pisses people off easily and he's a pretty bad fighter. I wouldn't be surprised if he 'pushes Luke over the edge' too.
Which would be quite a cool twist actually. Save one character, another dies.
Because of this, I could imagine Kenny giving Luke shit for not killing Carver just as he gave Ben hell. I mean, he'd have more reason to shout at Ben, but this isn't the same season 1 Kenny anymore.
I have to disagree. He flipped out on Carlos in the van and is constantly insulting Luke in front of the others. It's only a matter of time before he starts insulting him face-to-face.
Luke isn't 'scared' or a 'pussy', but he respects life too much to kill anyone. He won't kill animals or people. About the only thing he would kill is walkers.
I guess he could kill someone by accident, but not on purpose.
Luke could definitely experience having to take a human life. Accidental or not, I think it would be cool to see that unfold and how it affects him as a person.
I don't think he would ever kill off a member of his own group, though. He may not like Kenny all that much but he's not the type of person to lose his head. I see him as the type of person to try to calm situations down instead of adding fuel to the fire.
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What if Luke was a ghost all along?
I think Luke killing someone would be great for developing his character, be it accidental or not.
He's too moral for his own good and challenging those morals could make for some pretty good exploration of his character.
That punch on Carver and his ability to subdue Mike with ease, says otherwise about his fight skills.
I can see a fight between Luke and Kenny, similar to this scenario, but with no one dying.
I see Mike and Bonnie breaking it up.
It would actually be an interesting character development mainly because Nick says that Luke wasn't phased by pretty much anything. Although Luke seems to be very adamant about killing any person ( if they are living). So it would be interesting to see how he would react to something like that and if he was phased at all.
Clem jumping on Carver pushed him forward enough for Kenny to punch him that hard. And who knows about Mike? Maybe he preferred to talk Kenny out of a fight. You could be right though. It has been over 2 years or something like that. Maybe he learned how to be a better fighter.
No. He wouldn't even kill Carver. So no he won't kill.
I swear, if Luke even lay a finger on Kenny, he should know that it's not going to end good at all. We already know that Luke isnt the "fighting" person. I see him as more of the Peacemaker out of all of them, since he's the one that always tries to avoid fights. But who knows? Maybe he'll finally think things out and realize that it's a "kill-or-be-killed" world out there.
If Luke kills Kenny, for no legit reason, I'll kill him in return.
Lee could take Kenny down without seriously hurting him, than I don't see Luke needing to resort to killing Kenny.
So with that thought in mind, too me if Luke does that, it's deliberate cold-blooded murder!
That would be kind of out-of-character for Luke at this point. He isn't a violent person and he normally tries to reason with people most of the time. Remember when he first saw Kenny's group? He didn't even have a weapon pulled out.
I think Luke could kill, but it depends on the circumstances. He clearly doesn't like the idea of taking human life, and is often the one trying to keep the peace to avoid a fight. If he had to shot somebody, he'd most likely shoot to disarm them rather than kill them
It'd probably be from such a thing however that he might accidently kill someone [say for example if person was about to draw a gun on him to shoot him or one of the others, he might do so as well but not have time to think about where to aim before he pulls the trigger, and thus hit a fatal organ or something.]
As a means of self-defence or protecting his friends being just seconds from death, I could see it being possible. But to kill out of revenge or strange up anger, that's too strong for Luke. For something like that to happen, he'd have to be REALLY pushed to the extreme, and I mean the real soul crushing, psychologically testing extremes of losing EVERYTHING and not being able to pick himself up afterwards.
He seemed liked he was willing to kill troy when he went to pick up that gun.
I think Luke is willing to kill but maybe more as a last resort or when he gets too pissed off.
O.o that would explain everything!!
I like Luke and I really hope he doesn't do that... and it'd be especially out of character for this to happen. When they were arguing at the lodge, Luke remained mostly quite and tried to change the subject some times. He's more of a 'walk away' type whenever it comes to fighting/arguing.
I honestly think he hated Troy more than Carver- i'm the same way.
I thought you'd go more into a "I actually have no choice but to kill someone" direction. The situation you described shows Luke killing Kenny just to avoid a fist-fight. But, to follow your initial idea, Kenny's enough of an asshole to Luke to get into a fight with him, but I don't even see it going past a few blows, specially if Clem's there. If Kenny actually snaps due to Sarita's death and leads him into a kill-or-be-killed situation, THEN Luke would be forced to kill Kenny, but not any other way. To be honest, I'm more inclined to believing Luke will kill an actual enemy of the group and then feeling bad about it, even if he had no choice.
Nooo. Luke nooooooo
Oh please, he is a scared pussy.
Yeah right, Luke taking out Kenny? That would never happen.
'Yup, cause as we all know, being a man means brutally and mercilessly killing others with cold calculus. That's the Charles Manson school of self-proclaimed "machismo."
Mike didn't want to fight, he just wanted to get on with his work. Fighting Kenny would just get him in trouble.
I don't know about this, but how smart am I... People can do crazy shit, you know
The Kenny fanboyism is strong in this one.
Why are people arguing with me? Sarita said herself he got stronger.
She meant that he was stronger than from when she first found him in the restaurant. She said that he couldn't even hurt a fly, or something to that effect. I don't think she knew his physical prowess in fighting.
(I only remember one instance of her mentioning Kenny's strength, so I apologize if there was another part mentioned of it.)
" Try for the two on the right. Go for them dead-center! That way if you miss a little, you'll still hit something." Robert Redford to Paul Newman in a standoff with a Bolivian gang, from 1968 film, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
Shooting a gun out of a person's hand, like a lot of movies show, is impossible.
When fired upon, police and soldiers alike are trained to "shoot to kill."
So if Luke shot to wound somebody, that idea would more than likely backfire.
From what I've seen of Luke, he would have a hard time killing someone, and would feel bad about it afterward.
For human beings in general, taking a life, whether human or animal, is hard to do.
My uncle, who was in the Vietnam war from 1970-1971, which was the most violent time during that whole conflict, can testify to that personally.
Even though my uncle lives on a farm, when it comes time to shoot a fatally injured or deathly sick animal, he said it's still hard for him to do.
Even a prison warden, who was legally sanctioned to execute criminals, said he still suffered the psychological and emotional trauma from ordering it.
He said, even though these people he executed were dangerous, he said his conscious still plagued him with guilt.
At the end of the interview, the warden concluded, based on his own experience, and I quote, "The human brain was not designed to kill."
Luke, if he's put in that position of having to kill another human being, even if it's in self defense or in defense of the group, will still feel the effects of it.
And, no doubt, we'll see Kenny also being plagued, as a result of his actions towards Carver, if not in the next episode, perhaps future ones.
If Kenny, is not shown to be plagued by his actions, than it shows there's something wrong in his thinking.
And sadly, that type of thing does happen.
For example, some people who are in combat for a long time, can come back, and their view towards human life is no longer sacred.
Some have been so numbed by the experience of having to kill, that they no longer feel the pangs of conscious from committing such acts.
My Grandma told me that when her oldest brother,( who's now deceased), came back form fighting the Japanese in WW2, that he was a changed/dangerous man.
But I have confidence, that Kenny will still have his humanity.
I'm certain, even though he committed a heinous act, Kenny will still try to be a good man.
As I'm sure Luke would do also.
Luke is a good man.
Even if Luke had to kill someone in self defense or in the defense of another, that doesn't make him a murderer.
And Kenny, even though he's has murdered, to me still has a shot at redemption.
The chances of Luke and Kenny physically fighting are slim. The chance of Luke mindlessly killing Kenny is even slimmer.
Bottom line, both Troy and Carver were assholes!
And both needed and deserved to die.
Honestly, why do people care? Kenny is Kenny. He's gonna fight even if he can't fight.