Did anyone else think *******'s death was too soon?
Did anyone else think Carver's death was too soon?
I just Feel that 3 episodes Isn't really enough for a villain like him,I think That He should At Least have Got To The Final episode,I don't Think He Was given enough character development.
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For those that liked him as a villain, yes I suppose they did kill him off quick. For me though, I couldn't wait for him to meet his demise. Horrible character, that was way over the top. The Walking Dead will now be better off without him.
Good Point:)
Yeah, too soon. Being able to tie Carver up should've actually been an option. Then he could come back in EP5 or something
I do think he was killed off early, but I think his death is going to affect Clementine if you stayed and watched. I also think that he will still be mentioned in the next 2 episodes.
What's the point of the spoiler if you already spoiled it in the title? :P
Yes. I thought he was going to be the Big Bad for the season; a menacing shadow that continues to hang over the group as they travel north. Wasted potential in my opinion.
When I started playing E3, I kinda got in the mindset that we may be here for the rest of the season. Maybe escape in E5. But I have to say I'm glad it ended the way it did because I didnt care for the whole senerio. It's like the TV show being stuck in the prison for most of the season and I wasnt a big fan of that. For me, I'm glad Carver died when he did and the game can continue with something new,
I wanted him to die in episode 3 but i didn't want him to have such an easy and meaningless death.
It was too soon. I thought he was going to be around until Episode 5
I thought he was a really good villain but they just wasted him in the end. The build up to him in episode 1 was really good especially when their at the river and find all the bodys, Nick mentions Carver and gives Pete a scared look. You don't know what to expect but you know that he has definitely done something to make the cabin group afraid of him. Then in episode 2 he's introduced a calm and clever guy who's more than just your average insane bad guy. He also makes a good point on how should Clem trust the cabin group when they don't even trust her. He makes you think that your new friends might have a dark past and that maybe Carvers actually the better person. Then in episode 3 they almost seem to throw all that out of the window and turn him into some generic villain. If in episode 3 he didn't turn into a complete psycho then I would have liked him to have maybe survived. Although he did have a cool death scene.
you make a good point.. when Carver asked how can Clem trust the group when they didnt trust her, it makes you think, "what if" someone in the group like Carlos was really the bad guy somehow. But then again usually the better villians are a bit charismatic or manipulative and liars so why would Clem trust some guy that just showed up and walks through the cabin. But he did make you think about it.
Still, the group didnt know Clem, couldnt tell it was a dog bite and in this world it's wiser to be safe than sorry so looking from their point of view, they did the right thing in seperating her to the shed. Survival-wise, that was smart. We as the players knew it was a dog bite, we saw it, the group did not. Sometimes you have to look past what we know and realise the group was only doing what they thought best.
Respect your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more.
If Carver was over the top, then what do you think of the villains in the other mediums, such as The Governor and Negan?
Can you elaborate on why you felt Carver was too over the top? Because you're stating your opinion as fact when it isn't.
Personally, I liked Carver because he had those great quotes, and he definitely did his job. He was menacing, strong, and he was extremely manipulative. When he made Carlos slap his own daughter, that was a great moment as it showed Carver was a true dictator. He's not exactly insane, but he's a survival of the fittest kind of guy, and what he says goes.
Yeah I can see how maybe Carver was manipulating Clem into not trusting the cabin group to make it a little easier for him to recapture them. Then in episode 3 he didn't need to keep up the act anymore because he had them all where he wanted. I'm still hoping for a dlc that could take place in Carvers camp before the cabin group escaped the first time. It could explain a lot.
That probably means someone else is ou there waiting to get the spotlight
The only Issue I have is wanting something explained like the back story of the group.. What happened at Carvers camp that made the group need to escape.. My point is, we don't need it explained. It's perfectly reasonable that we (Clem) would never know the past's of every other character we meet. Sure some may open up a bit to us and tell a little of their past but for the most part I think most people wouldn't give out too much personal information as one, it wouldn't matter and two, the more information you give out, the more they can use against you. Think about Rebecca and the whole "whose baby is it" scene. Clem now know's a secret and could have used it against her somehow. In this ZA world, it's better to keep your mouth shut or not be too quick to trust otherwise you could have it come back to bite you!
I agree about Clem not needing to know but I think it would be cool for us as the players to know. We'd get to know the cabin group more and understand why they do the things they do in the main season. It'd also be cool to see if Carver wasn't always a bad person and to see more of the 400 days characters.
I totally get that.. We as the players would like to know more back stories of the other characters. Understood. But, for the game and story, I would rather not know more because I (we) play as Clem and she wouldn't know all that and I feel it would tarnish the story!
Example. Bonnie.. We all know a bit about Bonnie from 400 Days.. We know she really isn't a bad person but we have some insight about her.. Then in E3 we're given the option to tell Bonnie about Luke and the radios. I think the majority of players told Bonnie about Luke. Now, if we never met Bonnie in 400 Day's, she would have just been another member of Carver's group and I think most people wouldn't have been so quick to trust her and tell her about Luke.
That little extra insight that we the players have carried over to Clem and she didn't have that insight.
Oh yeah I get what your saying. So it would be like if we had a dlc about Carver and knew more about his past, we the player might treat him differently as Clem because we know about his dead son or something like that which Clem wouldn't know about. So it wouldn't make sense for Clem.
I hope this makes sense XD
I thought that Episode 3 was going to be living at Carver's hellish camp and defending Rebecca while the baby came, then Episode 4 Clementine snapped and murdered everyone.
Carver was a very interesting character, and wasn't necessarily "wrong." Put yourself in his shoes, what would you of done with these rebellious, shortsighted but useful people who would defy you at nearly every turn while you did nothing but try to save them from the apocalypse outside. While you devoted your "new life" to making this community something functional and working.
Carver was NOT an enemy of Clementine! Period. He was an enemy of the Camp Group and sending him off feels appropriate.
I thought so too at first until I realized I have no idea what Telltale has planned for the rest of the season so I feel like I shouldn't complain till at least the season is over
that makes sense to me
No, the death came so soon it made it better. The day before episode 3 was released I made a death predictions thread and carver was in the 'safe' area along with Luke, Sarah, Kenny, and Clem, and everyone agreed with me that Carver would not die.
And then he died; I really dont believe his character was wasted, he was an amazingly written character in episode 2 and I liked him in episode 3. When he died I was remember yelling "HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!"
Yes, he should have survived long enough so that his group and Clem's group can go at war. Also, RIP. He'll be missed. (By me at least)
I think he was a psycho anyways, he killed Walter for no reason, Walter did nothing to him. He killed Alvin and nearly killed Sarita/Clementine.
ugh kenny killed jonny first
Lol are usernames are really similar.
A little to similar..
Maybe Tavia will take his place and come for revenge?
Ok, i'm tired of this. Same threads week after week after week. Telltale really needs to give us something to talk about.
Oh yeah sure, clementine looks so switzerland when they killed him. Seriously Clementine was an enemy of carver. You can spot hate in clementines eyes and you could see she hated Carver and wanted him dead.
Well this is what happens when you move Fanfictions, the questions get repetitive.
Why are you guys always misunderstanding me? I wanted to Smash Carver's head myself after he smacked Clem. Still, Clem and Carver weren't enemies in 202. As a normal person in the ZA, You met people who locked you up and left you to die. You're supposed to feel neutral towards them. Just because they have an enemy called Carver, Doesn't mean it's your enemy as well until he got Clem involved in all of his shit.
Yeah, I think so. I feel he should have died near the tail end of Episode 4, and then Episode 5 could have been the group (or what's left of it) dealing with the aftermath of their fight with him as they finally arrive at Wellington.
I'll wait to see what the rest of the Season will cover. Maybe his death will open the doors for another villain, or maybe the writers have another message to give us...
Personally I'm glad he wasn't around for too long. There wasn't really much more that could be done with him and we've already seen characters like him in other Walking Dead media so I wasn't too broken up by his death.
Nah. The way he was written, I was glad to see him go "this early".
It wouldn't have been too soon if the episodes had been longer, and they actually developed his character a little... but instead, telltale totally fumbled and dumped all his potential down the toilet. they made him too evil, which didn't make him interesting. had he had even a sliver of humanity, or a story that made you wonder... it would've been so much more amazing... but that would've taken more time.
they should change their name from telltale to tellsynopsis.
Why'd you add 7 stars his name is only 6 letters?!
"I couldn't wait for him to meet his demise."
That's the whole point of a villain. They make you want to fucking kill them, but then when they don't die, you get even more pissed.
A lot of potential was lost when Carver was killed off. I feel that at least making him last one more episode would've been enough for his character to develop, and for him to meet his maker in the best way possible. I do think HOW they killed him off was great, but it was ENTIRELY too soon.
I was hoping that Carver would be the villain for the remainder of the season.
Having a final battle with him in an intense blizzard at the end of episode 5 would have been great