No, I didn't but I saw some little girl get smacked by her mother one time. I was in the mall with my friends. I was finally made them buy T… moreTG TWD GOTY Edition. We got outside. There was that little, cute girl. She was telling her mother that she was thirsty. But she didn't give a single fuck about it. They were waiting the bus. So are we. ''Mom, I'm thirsty. Can you buy me some water?'' Then SLAP!! ''STOP SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN! Huh, you thirsty.'' It was none of my buisness and I shouldn't have get between them. But seeing some sweet, innocient girl get slapped... even that was came by her mother... she wasn't asked much. I yelled at her; ''HEY! THAT GIRL ASKING YOU THAT SHE WAS THIRSTY THAT WHOLE TIME! THAT GIRL IS NOT A TOY THAT YOU CAN SMACK HER! BEING A MOTHER DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANY RIGHT TO DO THAT TO HER! TRY BEING A MOTHER!'' I argued with her I don't know how long. Then I bought her a water. She smiled at me. God...… [view original content]
Oh I saw her today. They were in the mall, buying some stuff for breakfast. And then she saw me. She and her daughter was... happy. Maybe I was acted like an asshole in that day. But they were happy now. So am I.
I know that debate is healthy, but on the Internet ? Too many trolls, and only a few will listen to each other. This won't be a debate, it will be more a VS.
Well. here in Brazil, not long ago it was reported a case of a woman who abused her yorkshire. often she did it in front of his own daughter's only 3 years old. neighbors then recorded a video in the act and she was arrested. and forbidden to have any domestic animal for a period of 10 years.
where do anyone go to jail for animal cruelty?? there was a very and I mean VERY fucked up guy not too long ago that in his garage had multi… moreple dismembered animals. puppy head and cats and that piece of fuckin shit only got like a year in jail and got fined as he only destroyed material stuff. so tell me how the fuck is this society hypocritical?
well that's brazil, and many countries are becoming more protective of animals and that makes my happy but here in the US if very disturbing. many people do protect animals but still..
Well. here in Brazil, not long ago it was reported a case of a woman who abused her yorkshire. often she did it in front of his own daughter… more's only 3 years old. neighbors then recorded a video in the act and she was arrested. and forbidden to have any domestic animal for a period of 10 years.
Nah, you did not act as an asshole. The mother slapped her child because she was stressed, and this is not a reason to do so. You were a Good Guy Greg. I'd have done the same thing you did. It just that in my place, some parents (a minority) can be "vengeful".
But still, you were a Good Guy Greg.
Oh I saw her today. They were in the mall, buying some stuff for breakfast. And then she saw me. She and her daughter was... happy. Maybe I was acted like an asshole in that day. But they were happy now. So am I.
But physical pain isn't the only form of discipline. And I would argue that it's not as effective as other forms of discipline. So why do it? Why physically hit someone, a small child no less, when there are other forms of discipline you can use that are just as if not more effective? It just seems like an easy cop-out to me.
Yep, I live in Ohio, but the public transportation is bad, and i would rather just drive. I don't think i could handle not driving, I sometimes just like to go on drives to get away from the mundane, and I don't come back for a while. I am the adventuring type.
I suppose it's time for full disclosure in this debate; my mother would slap me on the face if I wised up. I have no problem with that, and … moreI understand why she did it. After a while, there were times even when I would start to get out of line and she would say "Do you want a slap?" and that would get me to cut it out. It was a method of keeping me in check, and I'd say I have a good relationship with my mother.
Conversely, my father never hit me, but he would yell, berate, mock, those kinds of things, and his words were "to inflict pain so I never did them again," - my father is somebody with whom I do not have the best of relationships. (It's sort of strange... Watch Paul Schrader's 'Affliction' or read Pat Conroy's 'The Great Santini') I don't want to get into the specifics, (granted, reading some of the posts on this thread, I'd say I've had relatively understanding and permissive parents)
By the way, you have car? I thought I was o… [view original content]
You are right, a spanking or two will not traumtize a child.
It does teach a kid manners.
Showing respect for others, will get a person far in life.
Not showing respect, will get a person nowhere.
To many people today it seems, are either afraid, or unwilling, to spank their kids, when the kids are acting out.
As a result, we have an entire generation of young people who have no regard for anyone.
Why do you think we hear reports of children, assaulting their parents, because they have no respect.
A friend of mine, had his 13 yr old stepdaughter swing a glass at him, clipping him in the nose.
In response, he slapped her across the face.
After she tried to assault him like that, she had that coming, in my book.
I do not blame my buddy for doing what he did!
She tried to physically assault him, and he defended himself.
I want to state clearly, that I do not agree with striking a child in the face, as a form of discipline.
But if the child tries to physically assault you, the way my friend's stepdaughter tried to do to him, then in that case you have the right to defend yourself.
It's a damn shame, that a child would push their parents to that kind of behavior.
It's a crying shame, that kids today would have the ordasity to act in such a way towards their parents.
Parents, who love their children, work very hard to provide for them.
They quite literally pour every once of their beings into providing for them.
Cause they want them to have it good, or at least a little better than they had it when they were kids.
It's ashame that most don't appreciate that fact about their parents, until they're older.
And I also agree that discipline, like a spanking, and abuse, are two completely different things.
And that there is a fine line between both.
As long as the spanking does not result in bruising, then it remains in th parameters of discipline.
You are right, discipline and abuse are two completely different things.
As is self-defense.
BUT, there is a line between disciplining a child and abusing a child. You shouldn't physically hurt a child beyond what is needed to teach… more. A spank or two isn't going to traumatize anyone, but it's enough to teach the child manners. Hitting, slapping, or spanking beyond reason is abuse, and I believe abuse should be met with punishment.
Do not mistake discipline with abuse. Abuse is traumatizing. Discipline is something you learn from.
No, I didn't but I saw some little girl get smacked by her mother one time. I was in the mall with my friends. I was finally made them buy T… moreTG TWD GOTY Edition. We got outside. There was that little, cute girl. She was telling her mother that she was thirsty. But she didn't give a single fuck about it. They were waiting the bus. So are we. ''Mom, I'm thirsty. Can you buy me some water?'' Then SLAP!! ''STOP SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN! Huh, you thirsty.'' It was none of my buisness and I shouldn't have get between them. But seeing some sweet, innocient girl get slapped... even that was came by her mother... she wasn't asked much. I yelled at her; ''HEY! THAT GIRL ASKING YOU THAT SHE WAS THIRSTY THAT WHOLE TIME! THAT GIRL IS NOT A TOY THAT YOU CAN SMACK HER! BEING A MOTHER DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANY RIGHT TO DO THAT TO HER! TRY BEING A MOTHER!'' I argued with her I don't know how long. Then I bought her a water. She smiled at me. God...… [view original content]
I got punched In the ribs last night as I was cuing for food at a fast food place. He was behind me - Caught totally unawares, No reason behind it whatsoever, guy was a massive dick. :P
No, I didn't but I saw some little girl get smacked by her mother one time. I was in the mall with my friends. I was finally made them buy T… moreTG TWD GOTY Edition. We got outside. There was that little, cute girl. She was telling her mother that she was thirsty. But she didn't give a single fuck about it. They were waiting the bus. So are we. ''Mom, I'm thirsty. Can you buy me some water?'' Then SLAP!! ''STOP SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN! Huh, you thirsty.'' It was none of my buisness and I shouldn't have get between them. But seeing some sweet, innocient girl get slapped... even that was came by her mother... she wasn't asked much. I yelled at her; ''HEY! THAT GIRL ASKING YOU THAT SHE WAS THIRSTY THAT WHOLE TIME! THAT GIRL IS NOT A TOY THAT YOU CAN SMACK HER! BEING A MOTHER DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANY RIGHT TO DO THAT TO HER! TRY BEING A MOTHER!'' I argued with her I don't know how long. Then I bought her a water. She smiled at me. God...… [view original content]
I don't know the situation.
But if you were mouthing off, and got in your dad's face; getting violent with him, then yes you did have it coming.
Like I said, I do not know what the situation was, but if a child, particularly teenagers, get violent with their dad, cause they do not want to do what he tells them, then they deserve to get smacked.
And as long as the parent is not asking them to do something that is morally wrong, then children, whether they be little, teenagers, or even young adults who are still living at home, should comply.
Doing so shows their parents respect.
And it also shows appreciation for all the hard work their parents have done for them.
Parents, who love their children, work very hard to provide for their kid's needs.
While also trying to show their children love and affection.
Essentially, they pour their entire beings out, despite making mistakes like everyone else, because they want the very best for their kids.
They thus, not only deserver respect because they gave their children life, but have also earned it.
Now of course there are obviously people that do not give a damn about their kids.
Those kind of people really have no business being parents!
But for those who do, those who love and cherish their children, they do deserve respect.
We have, and I say we cause everyone in the world is somebody's son or daughter, have the ability to either bring our parents the greatest joy, or the worst heartache they will ever experience.
So why not they to make their experience as parents a rewarding one?
And hopefully one day when you're a parent, your children will do the same for you.
I know you probably won't appreciate what I'm saying at this time.
When I was your age, I didn't either.
More than likely, you'll have greater appreciation for this when you're older, and having to fend for yourself.
As I did.
well that's brazil, and many countries are becoming more protective of animals and that makes my happy but here in the US if very disturbing. many people do protect animals but still..
Couldn't have put it better myself.
You were simple, and direct.
Sometimes that's the best way to present an issue.
The key is, knowing when to take that approach.
That calls for prudence.
Like I said above:
Discipline teaches. Abuse traumatizes.
If you're not traumatized and you learned manners or learned important life skills in the process, then it is discipline.
I agree with you. The definition of discipline is self-control and you're not teaching your kids self-control by losing your's and whupping them. Patience is key
But physical pain isn't the only form of discipline. And I would argue that it's not as effective as other forms of discipline. So why do it… more? Why physically hit someone, a small child no less, when there are other forms of discipline you can use that are just as if not more effective? It just seems like an easy cop-out to me.
What is wrong with this generation. I got my ass whopped from getting out of line and I turned out just fine.
That is why kids these days are just awful, they lack discipline, and whenever the parents give it to them, they are reprimanded.
I agree with you. The definition of discipline is self-control and you're not teaching your kids self-control by losing your's and whupping them. Patience is key
Yeah hitting a child is just a show of weakness for the parents IMO. Abuse just shows that they've given up on even trying to raise the child and just use them as a punching bag for their own problems.
Finally, Someone who speaks my language.
I don't really believe discipline is the key to create a good character, But still, You make a very valid point.
Yeah hitting a child is just a show of weakness for the parents IMO. Abuse just shows that they've given up on even trying to raise the child and just use them as a punching bag for their own problems.
Don't know what that means... invasive... er... so... so... I evaded her... questions? Wat? And upset her. Ummmm... okay... I'm just saying … morewhat I'd do in the situation. Anyone fucking touches me and they'll get a nice taste of the kitchen knife. Buttttttttt... erm... okay. Conversation can end now... so... I'll just... be bored again. Might watch CuteFuzzy guy.
I got punched In the ribs last night as I was cuing for food at a fast food place. He was behind me - Caught totally unawares, No reason behind it whatsoever, guy was a massive dick. :P
No, I didn't but I saw some little girl get smacked by her mother one time. I was in the mall with my friends. I was finally made them buy T… moreTG TWD GOTY Edition. We got outside. There was that little, cute girl. She was telling her mother that she was thirsty. But she didn't give a single fuck about it. They were waiting the bus. So are we. ''Mom, I'm thirsty. Can you buy me some water?'' Then SLAP!! ''STOP SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN! Huh, you thirsty.'' It was none of my buisness and I shouldn't have get between them. But seeing some sweet, innocient girl get slapped... even that was came by her mother... she wasn't asked much. I yelled at her; ''HEY! THAT GIRL ASKING YOU THAT SHE WAS THIRSTY THAT WHOLE TIME! THAT GIRL IS NOT A TOY THAT YOU CAN SMACK HER! BEING A MOTHER DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANY RIGHT TO DO THAT TO HER! TRY BEING A MOTHER!'' I argued with her I don't know how long. Then I bought her a water. She smiled at me. God...… [view original content]
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That.. Is kind of you.
But she might have got worse because of that...
Imm test your bloody theory I right do declare. And to do that I challenge you to a battle of words m'lord.
Oh I saw her today. They were in the mall, buying some stuff for breakfast. And then she saw me. She and her daughter was... happy. Maybe I was acted like an asshole in that day. But they were happy now. So am I.
That's why we have mods. They can jump in if things get out of hand. If we can't have deep discussions on here, what's the point?
Well. here in Brazil, not long ago it was reported a case of a woman who abused her yorkshire. often she did it in front of his own daughter's only 3 years old. neighbors then recorded a video in the act and she was arrested. and forbidden to have any domestic animal for a period of 10 years.
well that's brazil, and many countries are becoming more protective of animals and that makes my happy but here in the US if very disturbing. many people do protect animals but still..
Nah, you did not act as an asshole. The mother slapped her child because she was stressed, and this is not a reason to do so. You were a Good Guy Greg. I'd have done the same thing you did. It just that in my place, some parents (a minority) can be "vengeful".
But still, you were a Good Guy Greg.
But physical pain isn't the only form of discipline. And I would argue that it's not as effective as other forms of discipline. So why do it? Why physically hit someone, a small child no less, when there are other forms of discipline you can use that are just as if not more effective? It just seems like an easy cop-out to me.
Yep, I live in Ohio, but the public transportation is bad, and i would rather just drive. I don't think i could handle not driving, I sometimes just like to go on drives to get away from the mundane, and I don't come back for a while. I am the adventuring type.
Oh yeah black mommas are scary.
My siblings and I got slapped around pretty good.
You are right, a spanking or two will not traumtize a child.
It does teach a kid manners.
Showing respect for others, will get a person far in life.
Not showing respect, will get a person nowhere.
To many people today it seems, are either afraid, or unwilling, to spank their kids, when the kids are acting out.
As a result, we have an entire generation of young people who have no regard for anyone.
Why do you think we hear reports of children, assaulting their parents, because they have no respect.
A friend of mine, had his 13 yr old stepdaughter swing a glass at him, clipping him in the nose.
In response, he slapped her across the face.
After she tried to assault him like that, she had that coming, in my book.
I do not blame my buddy for doing what he did!
She tried to physically assault him, and he defended himself.
I want to state clearly, that I do not agree with striking a child in the face, as a form of discipline.
But if the child tries to physically assault you, the way my friend's stepdaughter tried to do to him, then in that case you have the right to defend yourself.
It's a damn shame, that a child would push their parents to that kind of behavior.
It's a crying shame, that kids today would have the ordasity to act in such a way towards their parents.
Parents, who love their children, work very hard to provide for them.
They quite literally pour every once of their beings into providing for them.
Cause they want them to have it good, or at least a little better than they had it when they were kids.
It's ashame that most don't appreciate that fact about their parents, until they're older.
And I also agree that discipline, like a spanking, and abuse, are two completely different things.
And that there is a fine line between both.
As long as the spanking does not result in bruising, then it remains in th parameters of discipline.
You are right, discipline and abuse are two completely different things.
As is self-defense.
(?) The Little;girl will remember this.
I never was smacked. Thank god,
I got punched In the ribs last night as I was cuing for food at a fast food place. He was behind me - Caught totally unawares, No reason behind it whatsoever, guy was a massive dick. :P
wow so many stories.. A few words from my dad were enough for me to be scared like shit.
Only strong independent women have slapped me, and I usually deserved it. Much like Jack Sparrow
Your avatar reminds me of the first time I joined. Welcome to the forum, fellow rabbit.
Reading this and looking at your avatar.... YOU ARE LEE EVERETT.
No I haven't but there were moments where I nearly was.
I don't know the situation.
But if you were mouthing off, and got in your dad's face; getting violent with him, then yes you did have it coming.
Like I said, I do not know what the situation was, but if a child, particularly teenagers, get violent with their dad, cause they do not want to do what he tells them, then they deserve to get smacked.
And as long as the parent is not asking them to do something that is morally wrong, then children, whether they be little, teenagers, or even young adults who are still living at home, should comply.
Doing so shows their parents respect.
And it also shows appreciation for all the hard work their parents have done for them.
Parents, who love their children, work very hard to provide for their kid's needs.
While also trying to show their children love and affection.
Essentially, they pour their entire beings out, despite making mistakes like everyone else, because they want the very best for their kids.
They thus, not only deserver respect because they gave their children life, but have also earned it.
Now of course there are obviously people that do not give a damn about their kids.
Those kind of people really have no business being parents!
But for those who do, those who love and cherish their children, they do deserve respect.
We have, and I say we cause everyone in the world is somebody's son or daughter, have the ability to either bring our parents the greatest joy, or the worst heartache they will ever experience.
So why not they to make their experience as parents a rewarding one?
And hopefully one day when you're a parent, your children will do the same for you.
I know you probably won't appreciate what I'm saying at this time.
When I was your age, I didn't either.
More than likely, you'll have greater appreciation for this when you're older, and having to fend for yourself.
As I did.
Yes. it is very sad..
Never, I have been yelled at for doing very bad mistakes, But I've never been hit as far as I remember.
by my step grandpa during Christmas Eve when he saw that i forgot to shave.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
You were simple, and direct.
Sometimes that's the best way to present an issue.
The key is, knowing when to take that approach.
That calls for prudence.
I agree with you. The definition of discipline is self-control and you're not teaching your kids self-control by losing your's and whupping them. Patience is key
This ^
Amen!
I got very lightly slapped when I said I had not much of an opinion on gay rights by my friend that's a girl :P
Finally, Someone who speaks my language.
I don't really believe discipline is the key to create a good character, But still, You make a very valid point.
Yeah hitting a child is just a show of weakness for the parents IMO. Abuse just shows that they've given up on even trying to raise the child and just use them as a punching bag for their own problems.
Tell me about it. I've had many levels of the so-called "Discipline". It made me a mess, But i managed to survive.
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I bet you're a troll.
There are People which actually doesn't need a personal Reason for Harming another One. A Dipshit planed that for me too back in School.
I see. Game has some Effects on you
You really think so?
Oh... totally. I became over-protective urban.
What the hell is up with that?
i wish i got spanked like that in the ass though