I feel bad for.... *spoilers*

Vivian, and Georgie. He seemed like he really cared and loved her. It sucks that she felt the need to pull her ribbon off. Plus their explanation of how it started as a gimmick (discretion is our guarantee) and how the CM turned it into something more. The feels :'(
It was sad that they had to kill those girls or the there would be hell to pay with the CM (CM would have killed Viv). Now i'm not excusing them for murdering, I just feel bad that things turned out so wrong for them because they associated with the CM.

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  • he was a pimp who killed 2 people while she was a slaver that enslaved lots of women and forced them to become whores... i didn't feel any sadness when they died

  • They got themselves caught up in something awful. I won't say I felt sympathetic--Georgie still killed those girls, she still helped enslave them, there's no excusing that and it's hard for me to look past--but I did pity them. They seemed to love each other a lot.

  • For a second, I seriously almost cried. The interaction that I noticed between them...he showed SOME humane side to him. I was devestated when she took off the ribbon and he fell to her side. Man. The feelings!! :'(

  • edited July 2014

    Eh, Georgie can stuff it, but I do wish there would have been a way to save Vivian and still remove the spell. It was a pretty shocking scene, that's for sure.

  • Yeah, seriously. This whole "I'm going to put a spell on them, so they can't talk about anything related to work and we can easily kill them off when needed" deal? Seriously, maybe Vivian convinced herself she had best of intentions, it was still awful thing to do. Exploiting women in debts with all of those "fees"? That was all their idea. By the look of things, CM just took over existing bussiness model. I don't give a damn if Georgie cared about Vivian - he's still a piece of trash in my book, even ignoring the murders. Vivian at least had some conscience, he was rotten.

    hampusjo95 posted: »

    he was a pimp who killed 2 people while she was a slaver that enslaved lots of women and forced them to become whores... i didn't feel any sadness when they died

  • edited July 2014

    Yeah, I feel bad for Georgie. I think we got to see that he wasn't a complete scumbag, and he does have his side to the story. He was simply too scared of the Crooked Man, and was worried about Vivian. That doesn't excuse him for the actual carrying out of the murders, but he felt like his hand was forced.

  • edited July 2014

    I'm surprised by how quickly I felt sorry for Georgie. It was pretty clear that he loved Vivian and wasn't just another heartless psycho like Bloody Mary.

  • Let's just say I chose to end his death quickly.
    I think everyone that did really did feel sorry for him.

  • Georgie can burn in hell for all I care, Vivian is the one I felt sorry for.

  • edited July 2014

    Agreed. He was a selfish, disgusting piece of excrement. Do people forget how he talked to Nerissa when Bigby first goes to the Pudding and Pie in Episode 2? He talks to her like she's a subhuman, worthless, piece of human refuse. He's despicable and so was Vivian for using her ribbons so carelessly. I feel no sense of loss when it comes to their deaths, especially his death. He's a misogynistic, whiny, cowardly murderer who chose to treat women like slaves and kill them instead of being a good man and refusing to. Good, decent people would rather die than enslave or kill an innocent person. Georgie obviously didn't feel that way. Whoever ended up abused or dead didn't matter to him, as long as he got his cut at the end of the day.

    hampusjo95 posted: »

    he was a pimp who killed 2 people while she was a slaver that enslaved lots of women and forced them to become whores... i didn't feel any sadness when they died

  • edited July 2014

    He was a complete scumbag. Any person who enslaves, exploits, and murders weaker people for the sake of money and their own well-being is a scumbag. He was not a good guy forced into a bad situation. Remember how he was talking to Nerissa when she was dancing for him in Episode 2? He was cruel. There is nothing redeeming about the guy, in my opinion. Scum, through and through. Good riddance to bad rubbish. The guy only got what he dished out to others. The only difference is that they weren't murdering, extortionist, slave-drivers. They were weak, poor, disadvantaged women who had no means of defending themselves.

    Belan posted: »

    Yeah, I feel bad for Georgie. I think we got to see that he wasn't a complete scumbag, and he does have his side to the story. He was simply

  • what about the others he killed 2 girls, and he will do it again I dont care about him or her she also was involved with the murders she has no right to be happy, she should of killed herself to save about 10 people she was selfish not to take her own life just to protect her she could of saved so many people and stopped faith and lilly death.

  • The problem with showing their side to the story and their deaths is that Faith and Lilly didn't get the same treatment. I wonder if people would be as sympathetic towards Georgie if they had seen him going through the process of murdering those women. We got a small glimpse of how he treated them when Bigby walks into the Pudding and Pie for the first time and Georgie is shouting degrading, dehumanizing things at Nerissa. I bet if we were allowed to see the murders of Faith and Lilly that less people would sympathize with that guy. Just a thought.

    pudding_pie posted: »

    For a second, I seriously almost cried. The interaction that I noticed between them...he showed SOME humane side to him. I was devestated when she took off the ribbon and he fell to her side. Man. The feelings!!

  • That kind of ties into what georgie says though there as guilty as each other yet you see vivian as better purely as shes a girl i've seen plenty of other people with the same view .

    From what they said they were equal partners in everything

    Eh, Georgie can stuff it, but I do wish there would have been a way to save Vivian and still remove the spell. It was a pretty shocking scene, that's for sure.

  • I tried to tear the ribbon off of Vivian's neck and then made Georgie suffer before killing him. They were selfish murders who deserved to die. I wasn't sure I should make him suffer before he died, but I decided he deserved it for what he had done. You should sacrifice your own life before committing murder out of fear and selfishness. It might be a shitty situation and I would have compassion for anyone put into that situation until they chose to murder someone instead of fighting back.

  • Never felt sorry for them, especially not for Georgie, he was an abusive asshole who killed 2 women.

  • Georgies a product of his lifestyle. Maybe if the fable government gave him a small grant to start a family friendly business, none of this would have happened. Lol.

    Agreed. He was a selfish, disgusting piece of excrement. Do people forget how he talked to Nerissa when Bigby first goes to the Pudding and

  • I felt bad for Georgie. He was trying to protect Vivian, in a terrible way but still

  • He killed those women. But I can't say the Crooked Man made the situation any better.

  • I never said he was a good guy, only that there was a shred of good in him. We also have no idea how much of his business was taken over by the Crooked Man's rules and regulations. I think its fair to say that the CM had a big hand in it, and Georgie obviously felt very controlled by him.

    He was a complete scumbag. Any person who enslaves, exploits, and murders weaker people for the sake of money and their own well-being is a

  • edited July 2014

    Georgie's pained expressions were what really made me feel sorry for him, also, nobody deserves to have their guts hanging out like that. ;(

    A shame about Vivian too, I really wish there were some sort of option (or something) to save her.

  • Not really they are exploiting freaking fairy tale princesses into prostitution and murdering them, I dunno about you but I'm pretty sure they're burning in whatever hell exists for them

  • Lets be honest though, would YOU kill yourself to let others live? I wouldn't, I would want to keep living.

    Funnymen123 posted: »

    what about the others he killed 2 girls, and he will do it again I dont care about him or her she also was involved with the murders she has

  • Georgie gets no sympathy from me. But I didn't lower myself to his level, I ended his suffering.

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