Luke serves better as an older brother figure. And that is it!
Kenny could serve as a sort of surrogate father towards Clementine and Bonnie maybe could be a surrogate mother.
All I have gotten or ever will get from Clementine and Luke's relationship is a brother-sister one. In fact, the reason why I like Luke as a character so much is because I happen to have an older brother in real life, and seeing Clementine and Luke interact reminded me a lot of that, and I loved that Clementine can have a relationship like that. Especially after seeing many games over the past few years only explore father-daughter relationships, not that they're bad, but after so many you do get tired of seeing it over and over again, so I was happy to see a video game finally explore a brother-sister relationship.
Even if Clementine reaches the age of 17 like you're suggesting, the age gap would be too big imo, and the fact that Clementine has known Luke from such a young age would just be creepy. Studies have shown that if you have grown up with a person, it's less likely that you would be attracted to them, so if Clementine has grown up with Luke for another 7 years or so with a brother-sister relationship, I highly doubt anything romantic will ever happen with them. The idea that you're suggesting also makes Luke look like a pedophile, which he clearly is not, so please stop.
Yeah, people on here consider it pedophilia of where they live (country of the 'free') but morals are always different.
So in this zombie a… morepocalypse I'd consider a girl old enough when she has her menstruation and can give birth, that's when girls in ancient times were married.
11 is about when I started becoming a little bit boy crazy, but I never actually wanted to be in a relationship til' a few years later... i'm going to assume Clem is the same way.
Not to mention, I doubt Clementine at age eleven is even thinking about such things, not sure why, there's only annoying zombies at the wors… moret possible time, a psychopathic asshole, worrying about hunger, having to trust strangers,.......but other than that, not sure why. lol JK
. I would rather it happen with someone slightly older than her..like twelve or thirteen. But overall, I don't see her in a relationship right now. I just can't DO it. No one should see an eleven year old girl in a relationship.
It was more of an opinion and hearing what others have to say about it. And I'm not saying Luke is waiting for her grow mature but as when s… morehe does there might be something, In no way would I state pedophile things I just use facts of reality as what may happen/occur if there were to be a decline of human population especially during an apocalypse. Our society would find it gross but society changes if things like this happens.
The reason for that is that I embrace moral nihilism. There's no good, no bad, just facts and physics and what is most reasonable. But well, the majority of this forums are Americans who are usually super moral and often times obnoxious about it.
Pedophilia is not ok.
Cluke won't happen.
Luke doesn't have a romantic interest in an 11 year old girl.
Clementine doesn't have a romantic interest in a 20-30 year old man.
Why can't you shippers get it through your fucking skulls?!
I'm not suggesting Luke as a pedophile I'm just stating facts but not just with Clem and Luke, and honestly I'm fine with him being like the older brother but some parts in the game it seems more then that. The facts I'm using is facts that would happen in decline of population and that our society as of now would find as being a pedophile but if there were to be some kind of epidemic that drastically killing off half of the human population you better expect that society will change and that it would be like the medieval days that you can marry a 13 year old in order to restore the population. I didn't mean to annoy people since I'm new here and didn't know this is a common thread but every fact I tell people they always dismiss it and think it's still being a pedophile, but I'm not talking about pedophiles I'm talking about our races past and how it may happen again if something like this were to happen.
No. Just no.
All I have gotten or ever will get from Clementine and Luke's relationship is a brother-sister one. In fact, the reason why … moreI like Luke as a character so much is because I happen to have an older brother in real life, and seeing Clementine and Luke interact reminded me a lot of that, and I loved that Clementine can have a relationship like that. Especially after seeing many games over the past few years only explore father-daughter relationships, not that they're bad, but after so many you do get tired of seeing it over and over again, so I was happy to see a video game finally explore a brother-sister relationship.
Even if Clementine reaches the age of 17 like you're suggesting, the age gap would be too big imo, and the fact that Clementine has known Luke from such a young age would just be creepy. Studies have shown that if you have grown up with a person, it's less likely that you would be attracted to them, so if Clemen… [view original content]
I believe in good and bad but most of the time I think logically and every time I say something that's logic but doesn't seem right people will start arguing as to how sick I am. For instance I talked to someone about cannibalism and that if your stuck somewhere with some people and end up growing very hungry, all you would think about is food and will end up eating people and the same thing happens not only with humans but with animals too no matter how high your morals. But then of course people would start denying the facts that I give them.
The reason for that is that I embrace moral nihilism. There's no good, no bad, just facts and physics and what is most reasonable. But well, the majority of this forums are Americans who are usually super moral and often times obnoxious about it.
I'm not a shipper I have no interest in shipping, I'm just saying that it's possible. If the walking dead was 100% realistic then I think it's about time people should stop denying the logic of young adults 13+ would end up with someone 5-10 years older. If you know history correctly then you would know that these things were normal and always happened but over the years as our population has inclined and we started living longer, having relationships with 13+ year old became unnecessary then soon to be known as pedophilia. But I am talking about the decline of population and that soon we would have to start all over again to raise the human population and the possibility that when evolution occurs they would be able to fight the virus although it would take time. Again I am fine with the whole brother and sister thing but for people to question their relationship as more then that then just means either people are delusional, me included, or that TellTale failed at giving off more of the brotherly vibe and only did well with giving Lee the father figure type.
Pedophilia is not ok.
Cluke won't happen.
Luke doesn't have a romantic interest in an 11 year old girl.
Clementine doesn't have a romantic interest in a 20-30 year old man.
Why can't you shippers get it through your fucking skulls?!
Luke serves better as an older brother figure. And that is it!
Kenny could serve as a sort of surrogate father towards Clementine and Bonnie maybe could be a surrogate mother.
Children cannot consent to sexual acts. They do not understand the concept of love therefore shouldn't partake in said acts with ANYONE. Especially not with an adult who should know better.
14 year old guys have no interest in 11 year old girls, I can confirm this, so TV Carl would never happen. Comic Carl is a psychopath who I wouldn't want anywhere near Clem.
All i'm saying is that I think it's very unlikely for it to happen. Even if it were to happen when Clem is like 18... just think about it in Luke's point of view...
You're a 30 something year old man, with a 'woman' who you knew as a child when you were an adult...
I'm not a shipper I have no interest in shipping, I'm just saying that it's possible. If the walking dead was 100% realistic then I think it… more's about time people should stop denying the logic of young adults 13+ would end up with someone 5-10 years older. If you know history correctly then you would know that these things were normal and always happened but over the years as our population has inclined and we started living longer, having relationships with 13+ year old became unnecessary then soon to be known as pedophilia. But I am talking about the decline of population and that soon we would have to start all over again to raise the human population and the possibility that when evolution occurs they would be able to fight the virus although it would take time. Again I am fine with the whole brother and sister thing but for people to question their relationship as more then that then just means either people are delusional, me included, or… [view original content]
Children cannot consent to sexual acts. They do not understand the concept of love therefore shouldn't partake in said acts with ANYONE. Especially not with an adult who should know better.
Pedophilia is not ok.
Cluke won't happen.
Luke doesn't have a romantic interest in an 11 year old girl.
Clementine doesn't have a romantic interest in a 20-30 year old man.
Why can't you shippers get it through your fucking skulls?!
Children cannot consent to sexual acts. They do not understand the concept of love therefore shouldn't partake in said acts with ANYONE. Especially not with an adult who should know better.
Children cannot consent to sexual acts. They do not understand the concept of love therefore shouldn't partake in said acts with ANYONE. Especially not with an adult who should know better.
Morality doesn't exist in an apocalypse. Remember the bandits from Episode 2? They didn't ask for consent from Jolene's daughter (who was like 7) either, and that was just 3 months into the apocalypse.
All i'm saying is that I think it's very unlikely for it to happen. Even if it were to happen when Clem is like 18... just think about it in… more Luke's point of view...
You're a 30 something year old man, with a 'woman' who you knew as a child when you were an adult...
Well, I'm sorry if I came off rude to you and if others are as well, but suggesting a currently 20 something year-old would want to start relations with someone younger than them in the future, who they've known since they were a kid, kind of suggests pedophilia since Luke obviously would understand the age difference, and if there was sexual attraction, it would have to have been present for a long time, since like I said if you grow up with someone, the less likely you are to be attracted to them.
The problem with your facts is that you're forgetting Luke and Clem were raised in a society where that is not okay, so they already have the notion that it's not right, if it were a few more generations into the apocalypse then maybe your theory would stand a chance, but it'd have to take a lot of moral decay for society to go backwards like that. In the medieval ages, people were wed at a young age simply because life expectancy wasn't very high, and there was no other role for women other than mothers or wives, so as soon as they could produce children, they were wed off for money for their families. In a post-apocalyptic world infested by zombies, having a child is actually considered more of a hazard than beneficial, so I highly doubt anyone would be that willing to have children to the point where they must start making children asap. Especially since women have far more roles than just being mothers or wives, so why would they limit themselves physically and hurt their chances of survival by getting pregnant? If they wanted to ensure the survival of the human race, the best option would be wait until they have a safe zone or something, and then have the most physically able women be the mothers, which would be women from their mid 20s to early 30s, not 17. And even then having much older men be the father leaves many opportunities for health concerns with the child as well, so no, having a large age gap would not help the survival of the human race.
If you wanted to talk about how society could go backwards as a result of the ZA, and didn't want people to misunderstand you, then I definitely wouldn't have used Clem and Luke as examples, because you're implying a romantic relationship between the two, and as you can see people of today's society on this forum don't quite like it very much.
I'm not suggesting Luke as a pedophile I'm just stating facts but not just with Clem and Luke, and honestly I'm fine with him being like the… more older brother but some parts in the game it seems more then that. The facts I'm using is facts that would happen in decline of population and that our society as of now would find as being a pedophile but if there were to be some kind of epidemic that drastically killing off half of the human population you better expect that society will change and that it would be like the medieval days that you can marry a 13 year old in order to restore the population. I didn't mean to annoy people since I'm new here and didn't know this is a common thread but every fact I tell people they always dismiss it and think it's still being a pedophile, but I'm not talking about pedophiles I'm talking about our races past and how it may happen again if something like this were to happen.
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Good for you
I cant see them together
Mostly brother/sister for me!
No on the Kenny part and no on the Bonnie part, I agree with the rest though
carl and clem would be better
Not just Bonnie, the majority of people won't like Clementine and Luke together.
But Carl only loves killing and crafting.
just wait til puberty smashes down that door
No. Just no.
All I have gotten or ever will get from Clementine and Luke's relationship is a brother-sister one. In fact, the reason why I like Luke as a character so much is because I happen to have an older brother in real life, and seeing Clementine and Luke interact reminded me a lot of that, and I loved that Clementine can have a relationship like that. Especially after seeing many games over the past few years only explore father-daughter relationships, not that they're bad, but after so many you do get tired of seeing it over and over again, so I was happy to see a video game finally explore a brother-sister relationship.
Even if Clementine reaches the age of 17 like you're suggesting, the age gap would be too big imo, and the fact that Clementine has known Luke from such a young age would just be creepy. Studies have shown that if you have grown up with a person, it's less likely that you would be attracted to them, so if Clementine has grown up with Luke for another 7 years or so with a brother-sister relationship, I highly doubt anything romantic will ever happen with them. The idea that you're suggesting also makes Luke look like a pedophile, which he clearly is not, so please stop.
Finally someone gets what I mean, I was just using basic facts and yet still people considered it as being a pedophile.
Yeah I completely understand, text can be taken in so many ways.
11 is about when I started becoming a little bit boy crazy, but I never actually wanted to be in a relationship til' a few years later... i'm going to assume Clem is the same way.
You must be new. This is a topic that's been discussed. And the sane people in this community fucking hate this shit.
If he becomes part of the game then I agree.
The reason for that is that I embrace moral nihilism. There's no good, no bad, just facts and physics and what is most reasonable. But well, the majority of this forums are Americans who are usually super moral and often times obnoxious about it.
They've evolved. But they'll lose... as long as we trust in Kenny and his will. They'll lose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14 brb lighting myself on fire
Says you.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10948796/Paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males.html
Says every law enforcement/criminal justice agency.
I didn't know thought crimes are punishable by law.
Yes, because I clearly meant the thinking about it part and not acting on it part...
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Yeah I am new, I didn't know it was a common topic sorry for the ignorance and annoyance I accidentally gave people unintentionally.
Why are you trying to justify this bullshit?
I'm not suggesting Luke as a pedophile I'm just stating facts but not just with Clem and Luke, and honestly I'm fine with him being like the older brother but some parts in the game it seems more then that. The facts I'm using is facts that would happen in decline of population and that our society as of now would find as being a pedophile but if there were to be some kind of epidemic that drastically killing off half of the human population you better expect that society will change and that it would be like the medieval days that you can marry a 13 year old in order to restore the population. I didn't mean to annoy people since I'm new here and didn't know this is a common thread but every fact I tell people they always dismiss it and think it's still being a pedophile, but I'm not talking about pedophiles I'm talking about our races past and how it may happen again if something like this were to happen.
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I believe in good and bad but most of the time I think logically and every time I say something that's logic but doesn't seem right people will start arguing as to how sick I am. For instance I talked to someone about cannibalism and that if your stuck somewhere with some people and end up growing very hungry, all you would think about is food and will end up eating people and the same thing happens not only with humans but with animals too no matter how high your morals. But then of course people would start denying the facts that I give them.
I'm not a shipper I have no interest in shipping, I'm just saying that it's possible. If the walking dead was 100% realistic then I think it's about time people should stop denying the logic of young adults 13+ would end up with someone 5-10 years older. If you know history correctly then you would know that these things were normal and always happened but over the years as our population has inclined and we started living longer, having relationships with 13+ year old became unnecessary then soon to be known as pedophilia. But I am talking about the decline of population and that soon we would have to start all over again to raise the human population and the possibility that when evolution occurs they would be able to fight the virus although it would take time. Again I am fine with the whole brother and sister thing but for people to question their relationship as more then that then just means either people are delusional, me included, or that TellTale failed at giving off more of the brotherly vibe and only did well with giving Lee the father figure type.
I find Kenny more of an uncle figure and I think Bonnie works more as an aunt or an adult who takes care of Clem if needed.
Children cannot consent to sexual acts. They do not understand the concept of love therefore shouldn't partake in said acts with ANYONE. Especially not with an adult who should know better.
14 year old guys have no interest in 11 year old girls, I can confirm this, so TV Carl would never happen. Comic Carl is a psychopath who I wouldn't want anywhere near Clem.
It's ok. You didn't know.
All i'm saying is that I think it's very unlikely for it to happen. Even if it were to happen when Clem is like 18... just think about it in Luke's point of view...
You're a 30 something year old man, with a 'woman' who you knew as a child when you were an adult...
Exactly, children are children, and pedophilia is an exploitation of the child's naivety.
yea luke is the little brother and clem's the big sister that is what i feel
well i first had sex i was 11 the girl was13 had no idea what i was doing but i was all was a fast learner.
Pedophilia is just the love for children, not the act.
Morality doesn't exist in an apocalypse. Remember the bandits from Episode 2? They didn't ask for consent from Jolene's daughter (who was like 7) either, and that was just 3 months into the apocalypse.
That's not Pedophilia though, since you were both technically underaged.
that is a great idea saved that picture in my clem folder
Well, I'm sorry if I came off rude to you and if others are as well, but suggesting a currently 20 something year-old would want to start relations with someone younger than them in the future, who they've known since they were a kid, kind of suggests pedophilia since Luke obviously would understand the age difference, and if there was sexual attraction, it would have to have been present for a long time, since like I said if you grow up with someone, the less likely you are to be attracted to them.
The problem with your facts is that you're forgetting Luke and Clem were raised in a society where that is not okay, so they already have the notion that it's not right, if it were a few more generations into the apocalypse then maybe your theory would stand a chance, but it'd have to take a lot of moral decay for society to go backwards like that. In the medieval ages, people were wed at a young age simply because life expectancy wasn't very high, and there was no other role for women other than mothers or wives, so as soon as they could produce children, they were wed off for money for their families. In a post-apocalyptic world infested by zombies, having a child is actually considered more of a hazard than beneficial, so I highly doubt anyone would be that willing to have children to the point where they must start making children asap. Especially since women have far more roles than just being mothers or wives, so why would they limit themselves physically and hurt their chances of survival by getting pregnant? If they wanted to ensure the survival of the human race, the best option would be wait until they have a safe zone or something, and then have the most physically able women be the mothers, which would be women from their mid 20s to early 30s, not 17. And even then having much older men be the father leaves many opportunities for health concerns with the child as well, so no, having a large age gap would not help the survival of the human race.
If you wanted to talk about how society could go backwards as a result of the ZA, and didn't want people to misunderstand you, then I definitely wouldn't have used Clem and Luke as examples, because you're implying a romantic relationship between the two, and as you can see people of today's society on this forum don't quite like it very much.