Any sexual activities without true consent are considered rape, so by your logic, it's not ok to rape someone, unless it's the apocalypse. That is a very flawed outlook upon things. Rape is bad no matter where or when. No one, especially not a child, should be put through that trauma.
Morality doesn't exist in an apocalypse. Remember the bandits from Episode 2? They didn't ask for consent from Jolene's daughter (who was like 7) either, and that was just 3 months into the apocalypse.
Bandits from Season 1 are as bad as an example as they can get. They were depraved, yeah, but that doesn't mean everyone should go and commit some disgustingly depraved shit.
Basic morality still pretty much exists. Being completely moral or immoral doesn't bode well for a person in ZA, but don't go around saying that morality doesn't exist in apocalypse. If it didn't, everyone would be acting like those bandits, and, somehow, they don't.
Morality doesn't exist in an apocalypse. Remember the bandits from Episode 2? They didn't ask for consent from Jolene's daughter (who was like 7) either, and that was just 3 months into the apocalypse.
The average kid doesn't understand why sex happens though. I mean, in your case it's not pedophilia, and I know every 10 year old knows that sex makes children, but sex is also an act of love, which children can hardly comprehend the true meaning of love... hell, even adults can't really fully grasp the concept.
14 year old guys have no interest in 11 year old girls, I can confirm this, so TV Carl would never happen. Comic Carl is a psychopath who I wouldn't want anywhere near Clem.
Yeah you're right I shouldn't of used Luke and Clem as an example and also I didn't find your comment rude it's just I'm just putting facts and people take it as pedophilia but yeah your right perhaps not in the present time people won't do that and considering a few years in the future some one will make a safe zone. On my part I was ignorant on the problems of what it would be like to have children but I do know that babies would be seen as more of a burden.
Well, I'm sorry if I came off rude to you and if others are as well, but suggesting a currently 20 something year-old would want to start re… morelations with someone younger than them in the future, who they've known since they were a kid, kind of suggests pedophilia since Luke obviously would understand the age difference, and if there was sexual attraction, it would have to have been present for a long time, since like I said if you grow up with someone, the less likely you are to be attracted to them.
The problem with your facts is that you're forgetting Luke and Clem were raised in a society where that is not okay, so they already have the notion that it's not right, if it were a few more generations into the apocalypse then maybe your theory would stand a chance, but it'd have to take a lot of moral decay for society to go backwards like that. In the medieval ages, people were wed at a young age simply because life expectancy wasn't very h… [view original content]
I believe in good and bad but most of the time I think logically and every time I say something that's logic but doesn't seem right people w… moreill start arguing as to how sick I am. For instance I talked to someone about cannibalism and that if your stuck somewhere with some people and end up growing very hungry, all you would think about is food and will end up eating people and the same thing happens not only with humans but with animals too no matter how high your morals. But then of course people would start denying the facts that I give them.
Survival of the fittest means how much you are willing to sacrifice to survive. And morality makes surviving harder, that's undenyable. The more you go one, the more depraved you become. Hence eventually, even things like rape become perfectly acceptable, since the third instance, morality, ceased to exist and the other two control mechanisms, society and government, shut down in the beginning. So in a way, you are right, rape becomes a-okay in an apocalypse.
Any sexual activities without true consent are considered rape, so by your logic, it's not ok to rape someone, unless it's the apocalypse. T… morehat is a very flawed outlook upon things. Rape is bad no matter where or when. No one, especially not a child, should be put through that trauma.
Well, if you keep the sick thoughts to yourself it's ok, just like thinking of murder without acting it is ok, but if you harm even one little kid... That's the line that you have to cross to become an official pedophile.
Pedophiles have a sick, twisted vision of what's wrong and what's right, it's sick, and if you ever act on those disgusting thoughts, you'll be taken care of.
Well, if you keep the sick thoughts to yourself it's ok, just like thinking of murder without acting it is ok, but if you harm even one little kid... That's the line that you have to cross to become an official pedophile.
Yeah, but that's still a little like pedophilia, since they are attracted to children to some extent, that and the lack of patience to find a partner...
I thought Clem would have like a crush on Luke, which would probably be one sided. I can't see Luke getting feels for Clem cause she is 11 and what not. Shiiiid. If that was to happen, I'd kinda feel uncomfortable and if given the chance...Luke would die. Hell I'm already considering having him die if that option comes about.
Am I the only one considering that Clem will get tired of the ole 'Where is Luke' situations? Dude doesn't even seem dependable sometimes. Therefore, nah, I can't even see the couple happening because of those moments as well; he kinda just disappears leaving the group/clem hanging.
Helll.to.the.no.
I'm already annoyed that the sibling relationship is forced on me when all my Clem has done up until now was go 'fuck you Luke Imma do this on my own'. How about we DON'T force Clem into some contrived romance subplot, now or ever? (Especially now, since she's ELEVEN and probably way more busy with, you know, the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE to waste one measly thought on future romantic entanglements.)
Hell, SARAH would be a better choice as Clem's romantic partner than Luke. At least she's the right age.
(Not that I generally mind age gaps when it comes to couples, but come ON.)
Let's just watch her be a badass little girl who kicks butt and saves all those lovable idiots from themselves, yes?
Totally agree with everything. So much. Its exactly how I go about playing it. Damn Luke, rather have Sarah as a partner, which is damn surprising considering how I treated her in the first episode.
Helll.to.the.no.
I'm already annoyed that the sibling relationship is forced on me when all my Clem has done up until now was go 'fuck you … moreLuke Imma do this on my own'. How about we DON'T force Clem into some contrived romance subplot, now or ever? (Especially now, since she's ELEVEN and probably way more busy with, you know, the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE to waste one measly thought on future romantic entanglements.)
Hell, SARAH would be a better choice as Clem's romantic partner than Luke. At least she's the right age.
(Not that I generally mind age gaps when it comes to couples, but come ON.)
Let's just watch her be a badass little girl who kicks butt and saves all those lovable idiots from themselves, yes?
yea but she was gifted two great Ds she was the first to bloom in school and i used to take baths together know her familie all my life but now her dad hates me it's so sad who thought rum and coke could do that first time we ever drank lol and i drank three times more then she did. all i remember is waking up to our parents yelling.
Well, if you keep the sick thoughts to yourself it's ok, just like thinking of murder without acting it is ok, but if you harm even one little kid... That's the line that you have to cross to become an official pedophile.
Sure, survival of the fittest and shit, but what does rape have to do with surviving? Survival doesn't mean you have to be a total piece of shit. Rick is doing alright.
Survival of the fittest means how much you are willing to sacrifice to survive. And morality makes surviving harder, that's undenyable. The … moremore you go one, the more depraved you become. Hence eventually, even things like rape become perfectly acceptable, since the third instance, morality, ceased to exist and the other two control mechanisms, society and government, shut down in the beginning. So in a way, you are right, rape becomes a-okay in an apocalypse.
Dude..........I seriously hope you're not threatening me asshole. I was defending him, I was noticing that 4 people disliked his comment and I was calling them pedophiles. Don't threaten me again.
Pedophiles have a sick, twisted vision of what's wrong and what's right, it's sick, and if you ever act on those disgusting thoughts, you'll be taken care of.
I understand the logic behind it, especially when you brought the example of how things may have been during medieval times.
Back in the 1800s for example, 16 was when a child was considered an adult.
And in the 1800's, younger women often married older men.
And even today, many women date older men, and as long as the woman is of age, there's nothing wrong with it.
So perhaps, when Clementine is of age, 18 yrs or older, perhaps her and Luke may become an item.
And once Clementine is of age, a 10 year age difference between her and Luke wouldn't really be a big deal.
For example, my grandpa, on my mom's side, was around 10 yrs older than my grandma.
And there was nothing inappropriate in that.
When it comes to romantic relationships, as long as both people are of age, 18 or older, factors like who's older than whom, and by how much, is really no one else's business.
And to get involved, would quite frankly be inappropriate, as it could/would rob the couple of their dignity.
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Any sexual activities without true consent are considered rape, so by your logic, it's not ok to rape someone, unless it's the apocalypse. That is a very flawed outlook upon things. Rape is bad no matter where or when. No one, especially not a child, should be put through that trauma.
Bandits from Season 1 are as bad as an example as they can get. They were depraved, yeah, but that doesn't mean everyone should go and commit some disgustingly depraved shit.
Basic morality still pretty much exists. Being completely moral or immoral doesn't bode well for a person in ZA, but don't go around saying that morality doesn't exist in apocalypse. If it didn't, everyone would be acting like those bandits, and, somehow, they don't.
But morality doesn't exist in ZA, yes?
The average kid doesn't understand why sex happens though. I mean, in your case it's not pedophilia, and I know every 10 year old knows that sex makes children, but sex is also an act of love, which children can hardly comprehend the true meaning of love... hell, even adults can't really fully grasp the concept.
I got through the first line or two. Nope.
If someone romantically loves a child when they are way past the mature age of said child, there is something wrong with them.
2 Words: FUCK CLUKE
Never read the comic so I had no idea and I thought Carl was 12.
Nope, in the TV show he's 14, possibly 15. And at the time season 2 takes place, Comic Carl is 9. So either Carl is pretty unlikely.
Yeah you're right I shouldn't of used Luke and Clem as an example and also I didn't find your comment rude it's just I'm just putting facts and people take it as pedophilia but yeah your right perhaps not in the present time people won't do that and considering a few years in the future some one will make a safe zone. On my part I was ignorant on the problems of what it would be like to have children but I do know that babies would be seen as more of a burden.
I didn't say anything else..
People tend to ignore things that go against their ethics, that's why they react like this.
Survival of the fittest means how much you are willing to sacrifice to survive. And morality makes surviving harder, that's undenyable. The more you go one, the more depraved you become. Hence eventually, even things like rape become perfectly acceptable, since the third instance, morality, ceased to exist and the other two control mechanisms, society and government, shut down in the beginning. So in a way, you are right, rape becomes a-okay in an apocalypse.
Well, if you keep the sick thoughts to yourself it's ok, just like thinking of murder without acting it is ok, but if you harm even one little kid... That's the line that you have to cross to become an official pedophile.
That's great fanart :O
You better not say what I think you're saying...
Pedophiles have a sick, twisted vision of what's wrong and what's right, it's sick, and if you ever act on those disgusting thoughts, you'll be taken care of.
That's actual child abuse/molestion and completely illegal.
Fuck. Right. Off.
Cluke...
Yes, all child abuse is fueled by Pedophilia, since only a Pedophile is attracted to children.
There are also cases where children are abused by non-pedohilic adults as a replacement for actual partners.
Yeah, but that's still a little like pedophilia, since they are attracted to children to some extent, that and the lack of patience to find a partner...
I thought Clem would have like a crush on Luke, which would probably be one sided. I can't see Luke getting feels for Clem cause she is 11 and what not. Shiiiid. If that was to happen, I'd kinda feel uncomfortable and if given the chance...Luke would die. Hell I'm already considering having him die if that option comes about.
Am I the only one considering that Clem will get tired of the ole 'Where is Luke' situations? Dude doesn't even seem dependable sometimes. Therefore, nah, I can't even see the couple happening because of those moments as well; he kinda just disappears leaving the group/clem hanging.
Helll.to.the.no.
I'm already annoyed that the sibling relationship is forced on me when all my Clem has done up until now was go 'fuck you Luke Imma do this on my own'. How about we DON'T force Clem into some contrived romance subplot, now or ever? (Especially now, since she's ELEVEN and probably way more busy with, you know, the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE to waste one measly thought on future romantic entanglements.)
Hell, SARAH would be a better choice as Clem's romantic partner than Luke. At least she's the right age.
(Not that I generally mind age gaps when it comes to couples, but come ON.)
Let's just watch her be a badass little girl who kicks butt and saves all those lovable idiots from themselves, yes?
Totally agree with everything. So much. Its exactly how I go about playing it. Damn Luke, rather have Sarah as a partner, which is damn surprising considering how I treated her in the first episode.
There are too many clukeish threads.
yea clem and carl can make a kickass team
yea but she was gifted two great Ds she was the first to bloom in school and i used to take baths together know her familie all my life but now her dad hates me it's so sad who thought rum and coke could do that first time we ever drank lol and i drank three times more then she did. all i remember is waking up to our parents yelling.
Sure, survival of the fittest and shit, but what does rape have to do with surviving? Survival doesn't mean you have to be a total piece of shit. Rick is doing alright.
Dude..........I seriously hope you're not threatening me asshole. I was defending him, I was noticing that 4 people disliked his comment and I was calling them pedophiles. Don't threaten me again.
ah well you see, you're wrong on one point, there's only one word. I don't see Cluke as an actual word, if we do, we're fucked up lol
Why would Luke be the little brother if he is a lot older
BUT THIS IS NOT EVEN THEIR FINAL FORM!
*as friends
They're just pissed because it's difficult for them to post Rule 34 shit with all of these blocks...
because clem acts and feels more magure then luke does so to me that makes luke the little brother and clem the big sister
NO....Just- just get out. There's the door.
I understand the logic behind it, especially when you brought the example of how things may have been during medieval times.
Back in the 1800s for example, 16 was when a child was considered an adult.
And in the 1800's, younger women often married older men.
And even today, many women date older men, and as long as the woman is of age, there's nothing wrong with it.
So perhaps, when Clementine is of age, 18 yrs or older, perhaps her and Luke may become an item.
And once Clementine is of age, a 10 year age difference between her and Luke wouldn't really be a big deal.
For example, my grandpa, on my mom's side, was around 10 yrs older than my grandma.
And there was nothing inappropriate in that.
When it comes to romantic relationships, as long as both people are of age, 18 or older, factors like who's older than whom, and by how much, is really no one else's business.
And to get involved, would quite frankly be inappropriate, as it could/would rob the couple of their dignity.
Says Me. God what the fuck is wrong with you people seriously.