My Explanation on the Ending (Spoilers, duh.)

edited July 2014 in The Wolf Among Us

Fuck my theory, listen to this theory by Omid (the forum user of course)

I'll post here what I posted on another thread, as the theory I talked about is similar :)

A popular theory right now is that it was actually Nerissa you meet in Episode 1. Which means she glamoured herself as the already late Faith then dropped Faith's real head on Bigby's doorstep to attract the attention of Bigby to the case. This means that we never actually meet Faith in the series at all. To me, it also seems that Ep1's "Faith" has very similar body movements and talks in a similar way to Nerissa. That, along with what "Faith" and Nerissa say to Bigby as they walk away is exactly the same.

Basically, it's saying that Wolf Among Us's storyline occurs because of her involvement. At the end, when she is leaving, it's almost as if the story is "ending" because she managed to get Bigby to solve the murders and her "work" there is done, officially wrapping up the mystery and game. And the scenes in Ep1 an Ep5 mirror eachother almost perfectly.

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  • This clears things up for me because I've been so confused! I just finished playing the game,

    My burning question is: Why was the real Nerissa glamoured to look like Faith in the beginning?

  • Well Faith's story is to cover herself with that coat and hide, so she switched identites with Nerissa. But the REAL Faith said she didn't know Georgie would kill her.

  • "Georgie thinks he killed Faith. This means he either killed the real Faith or Nerissa glamoured as Faith. But why would Nerissa glamour herself as Faith? She has no reason to do so. "

  • My guess would be that Nerissa didn't know about the change or that Faith would have asked for a favor that needed her to look like Faith, let's say a difficult client, this is more plausible to me than Nerissa being Nerissa the whole time. So many things in the last 3 minutes point towards Faith being alive.

    "Georgie thinks he killed Faith. This means he either killed the real Faith or Nerissa glamoured as Faith. But why would Nerissa glamour herself as Faith? She has no reason to do so. "

  • That is what I don't get it.Why all those glamours for?So TinyCarlos's point is that Nerissa was killed but glamoured as Faith, and why Faith would be glamoured all this time like Nerissa?

    "Georgie thinks he killed Faith. This means he either killed the real Faith or Nerissa glamoured as Faith. But why would Nerissa glamour herself as Faith? She has no reason to do so. "

  • Ok, here's the problem I have with this glamoured idea you have (even though your probably right and I most likely forgot something). When Lilly was glamoured as White and killed, the glamour was found on her AND the glamour wore off after her death. Why didn't Nerissa/Faith 's glamour wear off similarly once they found her head?

  • Because they never found the glamour tube, hence why the glamour never wore off.

  • they also never found "faiths" body. they found lilies because tj saw someone dump the body and the body luckily still had the glamor tube

  • edited July 2014

    I'll post here what I posted on another thread, as the theory I talked about is similar :)

    A popular theory right now is that it was actually Nerissa you meet in Episode 1. Which means she glamoured herself as the already late Faith then dropped Faith's real head on Bigby's doorstep to attract the attention of Bigby to the case. This means that we never actually meet Faith in the series at all. To me, it also seems that Ep1's "Faith" has very similar body movements and talks in a similar way to Nerissa. That, along with what "Faith" and Nerissa say to Bigby as they walk away is exactly the same.

    Basically, it's saying that Wolf Among Us's storyline occurs because of her involvement. At the end, when she is leaving, it's almost as if the story is "ending" because she managed to get Bigby to solve the murders and her "work" there is done, officially wrapping up the mystery and game. And the scenes in Ep1 an Ep5 mirror eachother almost perfectly.

  • No they don't, Georgy killed Faith, to assume its more likely that he killed a glamoured Nerissa than that Nerissa glamoured herself for that 1 brief confrontation with the Woodsman/Bigby is silly.

  • Your reaching pretty hard

    TinyCarlos posted: »

    Well Faith's story is to cover herself with that coat and hide, so she switched identites with Nerissa. But the REAL Faith said she didn't know Georgie would kill her.

  • First possibility:
    Faith found out that georgie was going to kill her cause Nerissa told him about the photo. She swapped appearances without Georgie or Nerissa knowing.

    Second possibility:
    Nerissa told Georgie about the photo and Georgie told she was gonna kill Faith to make an example of her. Nerissa felt bad about condemning her friend to die and told Faith to swap looks and sacrifice herself.

    Third possibility:
    Faith got the photo, then under false pretense swapped looks with Nerissa (promising to do a difficult client for her or something) and then told Georgie (while looking like Nerissa) about the photo and got Nerissa killed, knowing this would eventually be the only way to get free.

    These are the first ones off the top of my head. The girl in the end confessed everything in the end, apart from being the same girl from the beginning. This points to her being Faith from the beginning. If she was Nerissa the whole time she would have confessed. If she was Faith the whole time she wouldn't confess cause in her mind she was the real reason for the 2 girls, her best friends, being dead.

    Bogas posted: »

    That is what I don't get it.Why all those glamours for?So TinyCarlos's point is that Nerissa was killed but glamoured as Faith, and why Faith would be glamoured all this time like Nerissa?

  • I totally agree with you. My heart jumped when Narissa said: "You are not as bad that everyone says you are." The room was spinning and I had that awesome flashback to episode 1. In my opinion a great ending. I hope that there will be a season 2

    Omid posted: »

    I'll post here what I posted on another thread, as the theory I talked about is similar A popular theory right now is that it was actual

  • It was very a very nice throwback to Episode 1!

    evebooo posted: »

    I totally agree with you. My heart jumped when Narissa said: "You are not as bad that everyone says you are." The room was spinning and I had that awesome flashback to episode 1. In my opinion a great ending. I hope that there will be a season 2

  • edited July 2014

    Why would they heavily point that the autopsy had something wrong with it or point in the end that the donkeyskin escaped hiding her true beauty? It doesn't make sense that Nerissa was Nerissa the whole time, and Nerissa being faith at the beginning. Why would she not tell that to Bigby? There is no reason to hide her being Faith at the start, but there is a reason for Faith to hide her being Faith the whole time.

    Napolid posted: »

    No they don't, Georgy killed Faith, to assume its more likely that he killed a glamoured Nerissa than that Nerissa glamoured herself for that 1 brief confrontation with the Woodsman/Bigby is silly.

  • My idea too.That's why after Faith death, the next person you get empathy is with Nerissa, am I right?
    So that could mean another prove,that Nerissa was Faith in the beginning.

    Omid posted: »

    I'll post here what I posted on another thread, as the theory I talked about is similar A popular theory right now is that it was actual

  • The twist is that Nerissa is actually Faith, and the Real Nerissa was killed, glamoured as Faith. The Faith Bigby met was the one who said 'You aren't as bad as everyone says you are.' and that was actually Nerissa, was killed, but glamoured as Faith.

    what? Can someone rephrase that..

  • Yeah, fuck my explanation. Omid pretty much seems right.

  • Thanks! Glad you liked my theory :)

    TinyCarlos posted: »

    Yeah, fuck my explanation. Omid pretty much seems right.

  • I don't know if we meet Faith or Nerissa in episode 1, but I'm sure that was the same person that we see on episode 5.

    Omid posted: »

    I'll post here what I posted on another thread, as the theory I talked about is similar A popular theory right now is that it was actual

  • Okay so when did Faith or Nerissa (Depending on involving theories) die? Before Ep1 or during?

  • I can say to you that Faith was already killed before Nerissa being her at the hotel with the woodsman.
    Because Nerissa liked very much Faith as friend and when she died, Nerissa feel in "tears" and the only way to help Faith is to vengeance her death by empathysing with Bibgy(being Faith body) and when he really cared about her, Nerissa put Faith's head in the stairs.With that action Bibgy with all that anger and injustice towards to Faith(but it's really Nerissa), he wanted to resolve this case and find who did it.

    TinyCarlos posted: »

    Well Faith's story is to cover herself with that coat and hide, so she switched identites with Nerissa. But the REAL Faith said she didn't know Georgie would kill her.

  • read my comment above yours it explains the meaning.

    "Georgie thinks he killed Faith. This means he either killed the real Faith or Nerissa glamoured as Faith. But why would Nerissa glamour herself as Faith? She has no reason to do so. "

  • In my opinion, before.Read my comment that answer Bloody Eugene question at the top of topic.

  • I disagree. It was already firmly established that it was Faith who covered up for Lily at the beginning and not Nerissa (whether glamoured as Faith or not). I'll post what I have posted in another thread:

    I believe that it was really Faith in the beginning, it was shown that girls would take each others shifts and Nerissa and Faith probably glamoured themselves to look like the other (Nerissa might have been doing Faiths shift, since Faith was doing Lily's) and have been glamoured that way when Georgie kills "Faith", which was actually Nerissa. Faith uses the situation to stay glamoured and escape punishment and sends Nerissas head to Bigby.

    1. It was established that Faith was the one who was covering for Lily and has gone to Woodsman.

    2. MIrror couldn't see Faith, saying "these lips are sealed", probably due to the fact that it was Nerissa who was dead and either the ribbon that Faith wore or the fact that she was glamoured as Nerissa prevented it from seeing her. Anyway he should be able to show dead Faith, but that is what we would see if we asked to see Nerissa instead as it was her.

    3. Doctor Swineheart needs more time with the body of "Faith" that we never get to see. That indicates there is something wrong with "Faiths" body, whether Swineheart figures it out and decides to play coy or is simply puzzled and haven't figured it out yet I don't know...

    4. "Nerissa" reacts to Bigby in episode 2. (while dancing to Georgie) in a interesting way, as if she recognizes him and wants to tell him something.

    5. At the end the line "She would hide her true beauty so she could escape his Kingdom" told earlier by Bufkin reffers to Faith and her story as a fable, if it wasn't her, there's no reason for that particular line in the final scene.

    6. If Nerissa took the beating from Woodsman she would probably still have her bruises on when returning to her real form, while Faith being glamoured afterward as Nerissa would probably negate the bruises. (by the way thing with the bruises on the severed head is wrong either way as it is the girl who is still alive who took beating, whether it is Faith or Nerissa, so it must be a plot hole or the bruises were later made by Faith/Nerissa to match the other face).

    Omid posted: »

    I'll post here what I posted on another thread, as the theory I talked about is similar A popular theory right now is that it was actual

  • But even before finding the glamour tube we could see the glamour on Lily failing.

    TinyCarlos posted: »

    Because they never found the glamour tube, hence why the glamour never wore off.

  • edited July 2014

    They never found Faith's body.

    Also nerissa could esaly be surprised by bigby because she knew he was the Sheriff. As stated by faith at the very beginning, everyone knows who Bigby is and where he lives

    I disagree. It was already firmly established that it was Faith who covered up for Lily at the beginning and not Nerissa (whether glamoured

  • Then her head. You'd recall that it was implied that something's wrong with it and Swineheart needed more time for autopsy.

    Endrik posted: »

    They never found Faith's body. Also nerissa could esaly be surprised by bigby because she knew he was the Sheriff. As stated by faith at the very beginning, everyone knows who Bigby is and where he lives

  • I believe this is the best explanation. While other theories are pretty interesting, I think this plays more into why The Crooked Man was able to take control over so many other fables. Many times throughout the game you're told by other Fables how Fabletown has failed it's residents. Nerissa was able to glamour herself into looking like Faith and make a connection with Bigby. She felt after she had done this, by putting Faith's head on the steps for him to find, he would go after the killer. Another reason I believe this theory over the others is because when Nerissa shows back up in the end and confesses to Bigby she says that after she told Georgie about the photo and Georgie is going over the fact they need to be made an example of, Faith walks into the room and Nerissa had to watch while Georgie....(I'm assuming removed Faith's ribbon).

  • MIrror couldn't see Faith, saying "these lips are sealed", probably due to the fact that it was Nerissa who was dead and either the ribbon that Faith wore or the fact that she was glamoured as Nerissa prevented it from seeing her. Anyway he should be able to show dead Faith, but that is what we would see if we asked to see Nerissa instead as it was her.

    As TomMartinHagen said:

    In Ep2 you can ask the Mirror about Lily, and it'll still say 'once again, these lips are sealed', even though Lily's body is in the Business Office. The curse was still in place because Vivian was alive - it doesn't matter if the girl is dead or not.

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    Doctor Swineheart needs more time with the body of "Faith" that we never get to see. That indicates there is something wrong with "Faiths" body, whether Swineheart figures it out and decides to play coy or is simply puzzled and haven't figured it out yet I don't know...

    Could be something about the strange "cut" on the neck, nothing special. And I can't understand how the ring with Faith's symbol should help with the investigation if that was Nerissa's head.

    I disagree. It was already firmly established that it was Faith who covered up for Lily at the beginning and not Nerissa (whether glamoured

  • Just wanted to add, that I don't think the body of the dead girl was glamoured. I think, the original Faith has the appearance of the girl calling herself Nerissa. And Nerissa is in her true human form the black haired girl, who was killed. That makes it all easier and I think that is what many of you wanted to say but couldn't find the right words to explain it. Imagine original Faith glamoured herself as the black haired Nerissa (after she saw Georgie kill Nerissa) to get to Woody. Ep 1 happens. After Faith got Bigby's attention, she left Nerissa's Head with the ribbon and her own Ring on his doorsteps. Because of the ring they get to the fable named "Faith" thinking she's the dead girl.

    Now about Swineheart: Maybe he notices that this body was the body of a mermaid before and that is why he needs to do more tests. He's confused, 'cause Faith was no mermaid in her story. I know that is no really good explanation but I can't see any other explanations. If the dead girl was glamoured, the glamour would disappear like Lily's. And I don't see why swineheart wouldn't tell Snow and Bigby about that.

    The rest of the theory is listed above by other users.

    I didn't think about the bruises though. Maybe they're just alike not the same? Need pictures to get a closer look.

  • edited July 2014

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    "Georgie thinks he killed Faith. This means he either killed the real Faith or Nerissa glamoured as Faith. But why would Nerissa glamour herself as Faith? She has no reason to do so. "

  • She wasn't killed before. It has been established in the game that she was killed later that night, after the scene at Woodsman's place. And it has also been established that she was covering for Lily.

    It isn't just the theory I'm throwing here, it was explicitly said in the game. If you don't believe me, just replay the game and you'll see that your theory doesn't hold water.

    Bogas posted: »

    I can say to you that Faith was already killed before Nerissa being her at the hotel with the woodsman. Because Nerissa liked very much Fai

  • edited July 2014

    can anyone explain to me, why when you ask about faith to the mirror he just say, "my lips are seal, sorry bigby", everytime i think about that, i belive that faith is alive, but at same time, i belive faith is dead, its so confusing!

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