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  • well you should watch them..see how other pro's do it.

    but he has shown his skill with limited success was my point

    but i can see you're sticking to your guns regardless of how many blanks your firing back at us..

    xChryst posted: »

    Unfortunately I can't comment on those shows since I haven't watched them. Bigby has not demonstrated much of his skills, is my point. Ho

  • I personally did not expect a parlor scene ending, because the story isn't conducive to that, and that time in the comics was the first and only time Bigby got to do it. (and he amusingly had to put so much effort to contrive the opportunity)

    He probably wanted an ending like the Rose Red case in comics, where Bigby rounds everyone up and explains everything putting evidence after

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    Here is one:

    The Crookedman tells Bigby who killed Faith and Lily.

    Belan posted: »

    How exactly were people forced to spell things out for Bigby? Do you have any examples? I honestly don't think that's true at all. Sure,

  • I can see you rather snark than continue a discussion which I completely understand.

    well you should watch them..see how other pro's do it. but he has shown his skill with limited success was my point but i can see you're sticking to your guns regardless of how many blanks your firing back at us..

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    well if i'm snarking then you've been jumping it like it was on offer at a yard sale...

    xChryst posted: »

    I can see you rather snark than continue a discussion which I completely understand.

  • Well I like my yard sale like I like my coffee: covered in bees.

    well if i'm snarking then you've been jumping it like it was on offer at a yard sale...

  • sounds pointlessly painful oh wait..

    xChryst posted: »

    Well I like my yard sale like I like my coffee: covered in bees.

  • Ha, Columbo... his sexy 'stache...

  • You my friend deserve the witching well

  • I think I agree with xChryst here, I would've liked to see more of a detective side to the game. I still liked it and I'm not saying Bigby's a BAD detective just that he doesn't get many opportunities to be a good detective so we don't get to see him using his skills very often. Of course this is just me there are plenty of great detective stories like that, but ultimately I prefer my Agatha Christie to my Dashiell Hammett.

    I'd also like to say that I felt this game game could have done with a few more traditional adventure game elements. Not all, that would be way too much, but some like being able to return to places on your own time to investigate further. This type of game worked (and continues to work) amazingly with The Walking Dead, but could easily become tired very quickly and I felt it did here somewhat.

  • I agree with you Milosuperspesh. All xChryst is doing is instigating his holier-than-thou opinion without making any real points other than he personally didn't like the game. I can forgive not liking the game, he has that right. But he does not have the right to come here and bully anyone who did enjoy it.

    sounds pointlessly painful oh wait..

  • thanks ! have a big huge like !

    vanna204 posted: »

    I agree with you Milosuperspesh. All xChryst is doing is instigating his holier-than-thou opinion without making any real points other than

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    I have had mixed opinions throughout the series since episode 2, but I have to say that overall I have liked it very much and I liked the characters a lot and it will be sad not see them again. :(

    I'm still trying to wrap my head around all the stuff that comes out in the last episode! This game has been a good experience. :)

    Hope they make more good one off games like this, they're great fun.

  • edited July 2014

    I think xChryst offers many good examples (although often colorfully stated).

    • Demonstrates clues that the player picks up on but Bigby seems oblivious to.
    • Comments regarding the simplistic nature of the interrogation
    • Pointing out Bigby’s failure to utilize the many witnesses surrounding him during the trial

    He clearly mentions that he is happy for those who enjoyed the game.

    vanna204 posted: »

    I agree with you Milosuperspesh. All xChryst is doing is instigating his holier-than-thou opinion without making any real points other than

  • those witnesses had already made their feelings and thoughts clear when we met them before what's the point in repeating dialogue?

    not to mention them screaming at snow/bigby to kill him/hold him in prison..

    the interrogation being simple dialogue options, why is that so bad ? why make it any harder ? oh sure people like challenges but these games are about the story if you want a challenge go play super meat boy...

    you have two choices let him talk or kill him snow had made her thoughts on violence pretty clear,

    it's another reason why i don't usually get involved with these threads as much.. some people come on here talk shit and then get all bent out of shape cos people dare to disagree with them..

    all it does is cause pointless fights or arguments that go nowhere...

    Spoonbender posted: »

    I think xChryst offers many good examples (although often colorfully stated). * Demonstrates clues that the player picks up on but Bigb

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    The condescending undertone of his "happy for those who enjoyed the game" did not go unnoticed by me. And xChryst forgets that it's a game about the Big Bad Wolf. Let me emphasis that again. It is a GAME about the BIG BAD WOLF. The fact that he is a detective isn't the center of the story, it's just the drive of it. It is not a detective story with the big bad wolf, it is the the big bad wolf in a detective story. And I'll tell you the true problem Telltale has. Although ever since I visited this forum, it seems the other problem it has is its players. Him and the user RafaelioOlazerai are so egotistical and self centered that they feel that if the game didn't follow suit with how they wanted it to go, it's crap. Do you notice how the first episode was "amazing" to them? But then by the time episode 5 comes out it was horrible to them? That is exactly the problem this game and Telltale has with it's monthly release of episodes. If the game came out as a whole, none of these complaints would be around. But since users have the time to brain storm and come up with their own "theories" and ideas about about how the game should be/go, it becomes a permanent imprint of "This is the one and only correct way". So when it turns out the game is not the way they imagined or wanted it to go, it's suddenly crap and not good.

    Spoonbender posted: »

    I think xChryst offers many good examples (although often colorfully stated). * Demonstrates clues that the player picks up on but Bigb

  • and usually those peoples idea's suck balls anyway...

    vanna204 posted: »

    The condescending undertone of his "happy for those who enjoyed the game" did not go unnoticed by me. And xChryst forgets that it's a game a

  • I was not trying to be condescending. I really am glad a lot of you liked the game. I did not indend to sound egotistical and I apologize that my posts comes off as that,

    The notion that I try to bully anyone to seeing things my way however is false. I will defend my opinion but It ultimately does not matter to me if you agree.

    Oh this story about the Big Bad Wolf? This is allegedly the same Big Bad Wolf from the source material. The Big Bad Wolf that has an established personality and history. Not my or your own personal concept of the Big Bad Wolf.

    Okay, that last sentence I was trying to be a little condescending.

    vanna204 posted: »

    The condescending undertone of his "happy for those who enjoyed the game" did not go unnoticed by me. And xChryst forgets that it's a game a

  • Neither I nor the person you replied to seems to be getting bent out of shape, though.

    those witnesses had already made their feelings and thoughts clear when we met them before what's the point in repeating dialogue? not to

  • I thought this episode was quite poor compared to the standard set in the rest of the series but to be honest I did expect it. Going into the final episode there just seemed to be too many elements to the story that needed to be wrapped up. I wonder if the story was changed between episode releases. It certainly felt that way. It was very messy.

    I still enjoyed playing the game though so I will still buy the next one.

  • MY OPINION ON THE LAST EPISIODE. (apologies for massive essay styled comment)

    SOME SPOILERS

    I think the last episode was a let down in comparison to the previous episodes.

    The first episode was amazing, oh shit a head, who killed her, why, how... then at the end... holy shit snows head.
    The first episode had me hyped about the upcoming ones and finding out who did this and why.

    Then the next episodes that followed are just as good, each one wanted to make play the next episode, what is always a good sign. At one point you are after crane, he is the main suspect, and I loved the episode where you find her body in the motel. (I can't remember what episode, I kind of played the first 4 all at once, so they sort id mesh together as one) but I loved that episode.
    Episodes 1-4 had me wanting more. I wanted to find out more, play more, try different choices.

    Episode 5 was a let down compared to the rest. The scene in the crooked mans office was good. Wasn't great, but it was a good start. Then having to chase after them in the car was a good scene. The best bit after that was jumping on the roof and realising that the crooked man was in the opposite car and you kind of had a feeling you had 'landed on the wrong car'
    But even if you jumps on his, you still go to the pudding and pie. So that makes no difference, other than she's pulled her own ribbon before you get there. I thought jumping on his car would have made the story go differently. It didn't make much of an impact sadly.

    When you are trying to get the crooked man, I thought that part would have been so amazing, But the scene felt half hearted, I loved how they had designed bloody Mary in her real form. I truly loved the designers for that! But the 'battle' if you can call it that, felt like it ended before it had even begun. When it started I thought "yes! I'm going to be able to rip these Bitches apart" but it just felt like it was a poor fight. Nothing great, nothing special. The only good thing about that scene was the way Mary looked.

    Then the next bit was good, kill or arrest the crooked man. It was great that we had that option.
    The next depends on what you picked. Listen to what he has to say, or listen to other people bitch about what a shitty job you are doing.

    I felt it was weird to head beauty and beast complain about you killing him when they had pretty much told you to kill him. Those scenes felt rather boring, it was pretty much a recap of everything. What these people had done, what you had done. What a crap job you do. How much they hate you. What people think you did the right thing, who didn't.

    Then if you don't kill him, you hear what he has to say, hear him try and squeeze himself out of the shit he caused. The conversations felt boring to me in this scene. There didn't seem to be any passion at all within it. The whole trial was a joke. A boring joke. Lets have all these people around, none of what have any massive significance to determine how someone is punished. The trail was rushed, his punishment was rushed, they charged him on 'peoples words and a lie' no solid evidence.
    I liked choosing how to punish him. I felt like I had earned the right to pick his punishment. But it was too soon.

    Then after this, everything just seems boring.
    No matter who you are in previous episodes, if you a dick who goes round ripping arms of and beating people up, or the nice guy who listened and cared about people. The choices at the end don't change, you give toad money, he still goes to the farm. Nothing in the end through previous episodes has that much of an impact in the last episode. I though who I played would determine what happened in the last episode. But nothing changed.

    The conversation at the end was okay, still a bit boring. The end half of the game seemed to be a massive let down.
    The last episode was weak. It could have been amazing but it was weak.

    We have all see what telltale can do for endings. Look at how powerful the ending to the walking dead was. Why was this one so weak? It was left on what some people may call a 'cliff hanger' but I just think that's to keep an opening for season 2 and get people to buy season 2 if they make one.

    The only reason id buy the next series (if there is one) would be to find out why you can chase after her in the end. Exactly what they want!

  • its just a game lol

  • The first volume/ story arc of the comics involves Bigby solving a murder with no body, in other words he is a very good detective in the comic. He even reveals "the killer" before a crowd, and lays out their motives, and shows incredible observation skills, all backed with evidence too. Interestingly that case has some parallels to the current Nerissa/Faith people in disguise situation.

    kappafan posted: »

    Bigby has a 'hot' head and 'big' heart thats probably not the combination best detective possess, i dont know how he fares in comics (since i never read it) but surely he learned alot by all this and hence he does much better in comics.

  • You paid the 25 dollars, you played the game, and it won't change just because you didn't like it. So be as condescending as you want (pitiful attempt by the way). Telltale still comes out victorious. And I did too, because I have read the books and I still enjoyed the game. Despite it's flaws, which I won't deny their were, it was still an enjoyable experience. And no entitled whiny forum user will change my mind.

    xChryst posted: »

    I was not trying to be condescending. I really am glad a lot of you liked the game. I did not indend to sound egotistical and I apologize th

  • The first episode was a master piece. I expected more from the season, specially the finale. I wonder if the story was better before they had to rewrite it. I guessing so.

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    vanna204 posted: »

    You paid the 25 dollars, you played the game, and it won't change just because you didn't like it. So be as condescending as you want (pitif

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    I'm glad that you know where your caps lock is. Good for you. But always remember that if you want to be a sarcastic condescending scumbag. You don't want to look equally dumb by not following simple grammar tools like not capitalizing after a period.

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    vanna204 posted: »

    I'm glad that you know where your caps lock is. Good for you. But always remember that if you want to be a sarcastic condescending scumbag.

  • Lol nice gif

    I think the wolf among us was brilliant, short but brilliant.

  • I think you're missing the point here. YOU are the one controlling bigby, and you are the one finding things out. Sure things are spelt out most of the time, but I was tricked alot of the time, and who the heck guessed that cliffhanger? Though I'm pretty sure Im a shit detective so... lol.

  • I don't deal with trolls. The mods do.

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    vanna204 posted: »

    I don't deal with trolls. The mods do.

  • Come on. Keep it up. Let's get this entire post deleted. That's the goal, and you're doing a great job feeding that fire.

  • Nooooo!

    I care about this too much!

    vanna204 posted: »

    Come on. Keep it up. Let's get this entire post deleted. That's the goal, and you're doing a great job feeding that fire.

  • Blind SniperBlind Sniper Moderator
    edited July 2014

    Opinions on both sides are welcome, but please try to behave yourselves and refrain from personal attacks/insults.

    If a user likes or dislikes something, please just critique their opinion instead of insulting them personally. Even ignoring how insults are against forum guidelines, discussing why people think something instead of criticizing the person for thinking something results in better discussion anyways.

  • Players control Bigby in a very limited way. It's the devs who actually decides how things play out.

    Healoz posted: »

    I think you're missing the point here. YOU are the one controlling bigby, and you are the one finding things out. Sure things are spelt out

  • For someone who doesn't care, you sure do make it a task to answer and rebut anyone who disputes you. But I digress, shall we try this again? This time without you acting the way you did.

    xChryst posted: »

    Players control Bigby in a very limited way. It's the devs who actually decides how things play out.

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    (((was so looking forward to a playing a detective out to solve a mystery. That was the first arc of the comics)))

    I hate to be that guy but i did not like ending of the first arc of the comics because the scene at the end turned into a scooby doo mystery were Bigby tells us how he solved the mystery

    I was waiting for one of the characters to say "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that dumb wolf" lol

    that's how cheesy and ridiculous that scene was to me

  • Because I find it more interesting than simply saying I agree with those who agree with me.

    We can try this again. This time without you directing insults at me personally.

    vanna204 posted: »

    For someone who doesn't care, you sure do make it a task to answer and rebut anyone who disputes you. But I digress, shall we try this again? This time without you acting the way you did.

  • Same goes for you. No personal shots, no sarcastic rebuttals, and no straying from the point. I ask 1 question, you answer. You ask 1 question, I answer. Got it?

    xChryst posted: »

    Because I find it more interesting than simply saying I agree with those who agree with me. We can try this again. This time without you directing insults at me personally.

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