About Luke.
I've been reading a lot of different threads about Luke.
And either they're about how Luke seems like a pedophile, or others comment about how they think he is.
And I just have to wonder, why so many think this about him?
I know one person commented on how Luke treats Clementine with a lot of importance, more so than others.
Well for one thing, since Clementine is the playable character in the game, the game designers have to treat her as the most important person there, just like they did Lee. In other words, it's just a videogame, not real life.
And on a sidenote, children need to feel important.
They need to feel like they're heard, and not just seen.
And they need to feel that others have confidence in them.
That's how they build confidence in themselves.
So from that aspect, Luke treating Clementine like he does makes sense.
And I've read threads from some who feel that perhaps Luke and Clementine might end up together one day.
Well once Clementine is of age, 18 yrs or older, then she has the right to do whatever she wants, with whomever she wants.
Plus, once she is of age, a 10 year age gap between her and Luke, wouldn't be that big a deal.
For example, My Grandpa, on my mom's side, was 10 or 12 years older then my Grandma.
And there was nothing inappropriate in that.
In my honest opinion, Luke is not a pedophile.
After all look at how Lee treated Clementine, and no one considered him to be one.
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Another post about Clem and Luke having a relationship. Toodles
Actually, this is about wether or not Luke's a pedophile.
Just brought up reasons for why some feel he is.
And in here I've given my reasons for why I don't think he is.
Eh, I just read the third to last paragraph. Didn't look good.
Lets be frank here guy. I don't think Luke is a pedo. You have to be one sick person to be able to hurt a child and from his personality he isn't like that. (side note: not directed at anyone) I am tired of this whole Luke Cluke shit, really i find it is abhorrent. I don't think anyone should even be joking about this, because it happens to people on a daily basis, it messes people up so badly. It ruins their life. Its not something you just deal with, and be ok one day.
People don't want to be reminded of this, if it happened to them.
Well that's why, with all due respect, it's always good to read something thoroughly, before answering.
And especially before they sign their name on something.
Same principle applies to having conversations with others.
A person should always listen thoroughly, and wait for the other person to finish, before replying.
That's another reason I brought it up.
Implying someone is a pedophile, is not a joking matter.
It is serious business.
That is why people shouldn't call a video game character a pedo, its a video game character.
Alright. Fair points. I've seen far too many conversations about Clem and Lukes future sexual relations to (potentially) sit through another.
I really don't get why the 'pedo vibes' thing comes up so often either. I mean, I can understand some people thinking there is something generally up with Luke, considering we don't have much info on his background, there's his tendency to disappear, it could be a recipe for some wonky shit to come out about him, I grant those people that, but a pedophile?
Like you said, everyone in the game singles Clem out in some way and there's a noticeable amount of overreliance on her because she is the PC, it's nothing unique to Luke. And his interactions with her in the first episode make sense considering his guilt over how he reacted to her bite, his empathy left over from pre-apocalypse days, and the obvious respect and sympathy he had once he heard the story of what she'd already been through, especially at her age. Being one of two people not acting like a tool toward an injured kid is somehow pedophillic?
And as for the table scene, of the people in the cabin group, he was the one that had bothered to learn who she was, had been defending her, and had gone through the situation on the bridge with her. They had developed a friendship and he didn't know Kenny or what Clementine's history was with him beyond a detail or two. Why wouldn't he assume Clem would keep sticking with him? Clem's had plenty of other adult friends and spent time with them on an individual basis, I don't get what's so different about her interactions with Luke. I also wonder if these same people would be calling Lee a pedo if we didn't play as him. I don't know, I just don't get why it keeps popping up.
As far as them being involved in the future, I don't know. There's nothing wrong with an age gap between consenting adults, but it is a different situation when one has known the other since they were a pre-teen. It makes things weird on Luke's end, because while kids/teens often develop an attraction to older figures in their life, it raises a question of when exactly Luke would get to a place where he reciprocates them. And even if they get together when she's 18, 19, whatever, it's like, he'd have to switch from seeing her as a kid, competent and strong, sure, but still a kid, to a romantic and sexual partner and it's just...I don't know. I'm not against them being together when she's older, but there are a lot of issues to take into account about how healthy and acceptable it would be. And I'm sure their priorities and views would be different than ours considering they would have lived in the ZA for years at that point (and for Clem it would've been most of her life) but still, issues.
/massive, unfocused ramble
Luke is my boyfriend and I'm 19. So, he isn't a pedo
Just ignore this. A assumption made from morons that can´t understand that being nice and friendly to someone, especially from the opposite gender, does not necessarily mean that the person is hitting on him / her.
Wow... whenever a grown man tries to protect a child during a zombie apocalypse... people always seem to bring up pedophilia, this just shows how those people think....
I can understand that.
That's why I created this thread.
I've seen so many call Luke a pedophile, that I'm quite sick of it.
Hopefully, by creating this thread, it will put an end to this assumption.
And here's some food for thought.
If Luke's a pedophile, simply because he shows a wholesome interest in a child, ( like wanting to help Clementine build self-confidence so she can succeed in life), than that must make both Lee and Kenny pedophiles as well.
And we know that Lee and Kenny are NOT that way.
Well like I said in an earlier comment, if showing a genuine, wholesome interest in a child's well-being, makes Luke a pedophile, than both Lee and Kenny must be pedophiles too.
And we know that that's not the case with either of them.
Both Lee and Kenny have a fatherly affection for Clementine.
Look how far both men have gone to protect her!
Lee eventually gave his life, and Kenny took a disfiguring beating for her.
I see Luke as a friend of Clem.
Yeah, we all know that he is not a pedo. He's just kind to a child, but there weird people on Internet, who do weird fanfics.
Yeah, when she will get older, she could do whatever she wants. But as long as I control her... Non.
Same here
People are calling Luke a pedo.... but those people don't call all the adults looking after Clem a pedo.... I think they just don't like Luke in general
I see Luke as a protective big brother, not a crazed sex freak for children. He doesn't give off the vibe. Now let's drop this and be happy we are getting some news tomorrow!!!
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Uhm, what?
This whole "Cluke" thing has gone way too far. Mabey Luke had a young sister or niece that he was close to and simply see's Clementine as a replacement for those who were lost, it wouldn't be too uncommon in this kind of bleak world.
Now I've realised the people who "ship Cluke" to not all be sexual deviants. A lot of people nowadays (unfortunately) feel that being in a romantic relationship is the only true way to find happiness. A lot of the "Clukers" just want see Clementine find happiness with someone else. Because being intimately involved with someone else is so fetishized in media and this society that some people never fully grasp what makes a relationship healthy. But why does Clementine need to cling onto anyone for happiness? She's independent enough that she can make it on her own I believe.
Only big guys with big guns have rights in a za
I agree.
This whole, "Luke's a pedophile," is bullshit, and has gone long enough.
The only thing Luke has done, is shown concern for a young girl's wellbeing.
And who has tried to give Clementine confidence in herself.
I love Luke . He is simply good
But you can't have him
I don't think he is at all. There's some fans who seem to want a romance between him and Clem, but the character himself doesn't act like that. He just seems to respect Clem's grit and look out for her like a big brother. Especially since Nick's a bit unstable, he's probably looking for a partner (read: friend) in crime to watch his back in tough situations. None of the others in the group match that role as well as Clem, despite her being a child, because she's so capable.
See, the reason why people had the image of Luke being a pedophile is because of Shaundi. I know she's around here somewhere, lurking the forums, haii grl. But it's true. People heard her going on about Cluke and that's why a lot of people don't have their interest in Luke or even hate him.
I personally wouldn't mind if you shipped an older Clementine with Luke, but an 11 year old with 26-27 year old? Girl, no. It doesn't matter that it's the goddamn apocalypse, it's still pedophilia. Just because laws don't exist anymore, doesn't make it anymore wrong.
I already know Luke isn't a pedophile, he looks towards Clementine as a little sister he's gotta protect. That's the way I see it.
Exactly. Because he's mine.
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I don't like it when people talk about rights, duties and laws in post-apocalyptic worlds. It's like calling for police in an anarchistic country.
Thank you. Theres a lot of luke hating and "luke is a pedophile" stuff. Some of it doesnt make sense.
The OP is talking about self-rights. Not rights as in laws and duties...
Lol? xD
How very true.
Even though law doesn't exist in TWD, moral principle still does.
People would think differently if they were related, but in these times kids are the only hope for the future, I don't really see how Luke is being a pedophile... besides... how can those people say Luke is being a pedophile unless they have been pedophiles themselves?
Well, he gave an age of consent to obey, which can only be clearly defined by a government.
That's the same thing as complaining about Nick letting Clementine drink.
I've never heard anyone complain about Nick letting Clementine drink?
I don't think you understand the difference..
I was a little peeved at Nick for doing that, actually. Nothing I'd throw a stink over, but... I kind of wish he'd taken after his uncle in that respect. I suppose it was there to just illustrate Nick's mindset, though. He probably often forgets he's supposed to be a responsible adult.
Well, at first I was like: "wait, you're gonna let her drink that?"
But then I grew over it. Seeing that drinking isn't a bigger deal as pedophilia or the loss of your virginity, I don't think I mind.
I sometimes question if Luke treats Clem the way he does because of him maybe having once had a younger sibling. It's only theory stuff given we don't know all the details on his family, but it would make sense with how he interacts with her and it being different from how other characters interact with Clem in particular. But even if it's not, I just see Luke as a nice guy who wants to make sure the group is okay and views her as part of their group now too. Also you have to take into account he might feel responsible for leaving her in the shed and nearly getting eaten by a walker and wants to look out for her from then on out. A lot of other characters in the game clearly show concern for her like Kenny and even the Bonnie, and in a world with dead walking about that's really no surprise that people would become protective of young children in that harsh environment because if they don't, who else will?
As for the grown up stuff, there's over a 10 year age gap between my parents and there's been a lot bigger much more questionable ones out there so it wouldn't matter by then in adulthood. Because seriously, two adults in love? Yuck!