Severely lacking ending
What is your general opinion on the ending of episode 5 (and the season)? To me it felt like it was one of the weakest of the episodes. There was no real impact with the Crooked Man, he gave himself up easily. There was nothing surprising and the only thing that might get people thinking more into the story is the very end with Nerissa.
Still, i liked the Bloody Mary scene and the part of Georgie and Vivian... but other than that it felt like this wasn't a good enough way to finish the season up. It might just be me, but i expected more and i feel like Telltale took too much weight with developing 3-4 games at the same time... and this rush is what got us this terribly lacking ending.
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Ah, well, at least we got closure with pretty much all characters!
I disagree, I think it wrapped up nicely. The old man knew he was outgunned without his henchmen so he wisely gave up.
I enjoyed it. The crooked man was not a fighter. He was the boss and controlled the other fables. Bloody Mary and the others were used as his pawns to do the dirty work. He was good in the last part when he tried to convince the other fables he was good.
I liked it, I think you have to be intelligent to appreciate the ending.
I liked it on the whole, but it was too short. I would've liked to see more of what each character's ending is. Like we get a tiny bit with Toad and TJ, Colin (but only if he's sent to the Farm) and a big bit with Nerissa/Faith. But I would've liked to see more. With Snow, for instance, you can get where their relationship stands with her brushing him off and closing the door in his face, but some more scenes beyond that would be nice. And where did Woody disappear to? What happened to all of the Crooked Man's minions? Tim? And since she's one of my favourites, I would've liked to speak to Holly and see if she feels closure on what happened to Lily now, if she's forgiven Woody, etc.
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Not being intelligent is the reason why you just commented such stupidity.
Indeed, that's true. However if he is such a big boss and ordered everyone to do his dirty work, why would he give himself up so easily, knowing that there is no turning back from there? Why did he not escape and continue with his operations from somewhere else? Anything like that.
I can see the appeal to some people with this trial at the end, but that just bored me to hell. I have seen too many series like that already. It did not feel like a complete ending to me.
If he had those options open to him, I'm sure he would have taken them so it's clear he didn't. It was either go quietly or have Bigby tear him to shreds. It's a matter of taste. I personally enjoy courtroom dramas.
I thought the episode ended well with the one exception of Telltale trying to twist the ending into something interesting with the Faith/Narisa thing, which just came across as sloppy and ill-planned.
I pretty much feel the same way. I actually really enjoyed the episode. As far as Bigby goes, the story was wrapped up in a fairly good way. I just wish we got closure with everyone else. I will say though, that i'm definitely going to be buying up the comics now. I'm going to try to hold out hope for a second season later down the road once they've gotten Borderlands and possibly GoT out of the way.
Just shut up, aight.
He thought he could convince the other fables that he was not the killer and turn them on Bigby by saying that he helped them all and without him they would have a worse life. He said that Bigby and Snow did nothing to help them when they needed it.
CM said he's not a murderer. His book of fables said he killed his family.
Either, a mistake, bad writing, or CM trying to cover for himself.
It was the best ending yet to a TTG story IMO. The Walking Dead was good but patchy.
This was classic Noir plotting, even the twist at the end. It wasn't sloppy - it raised a lot of questions about Faith at the beginning of the story. Questions that don't need to be answered, just left there for the audience to consider. That's what tends to happen in Noir stories. The detective solves the crime but there is usually a lingering question about what happened. Something unresolved.
The Crooked Man was another classic noir staple. The boss who didn't commit the crime directly but who ordered it. The whole point of him handing himself in was to protect himself. The trial was a great sequence showing how manipulative and weasel-like he was. As for "I'm not a murderer" - he's lying. It's not bad writing. It was obvious that he knew exactly what he was asking Georgie to do, he just made sure to word it in a way that would give him plausible deniability if it came to trial.
The whole plan with Mary and the Dees was about working to keep Bigby pointed at Georgie rather than CM.
I've been quite impressed by how tight the story was here compared to TWD and TWD2 which have had moments where the story has kind of rambled.
So yeah - I felt it was a strong finish with an excellent denouement.
It was my favorite TTG ending. I felt it worked for the genera they were trying to go for. Definitely has me craving a season 2.
Yes I agree.
I wanted more action/suspense but overall it was a solid ending.
I really enjoyed it from start to finish but I feel that there are too many questions left like where is Faith's body because it was never found, who put Lilly's head in front of the woodlands because Nerissa only put Faiths head there, the whole mystery about why Faith and Nerissa seem like the same person and what did all the things going through Bigby's head mean at the end because it feels like he was trying to put things together but i couldn't figure out what it meant. these questions have been in my head since i completed the game and i have tried to figure them out for days but i can't. So i think Telltale left clues in the game for us to figure it out but if so they haven't made it easy.
I agree, he really seemed to think he could talk his way out of the situation. He might have if Nerissa hadnt show up with her "evidence."
Maybe he didnt consider what he did to his family murder. We dont know the circumstances around that. You can justify anything to yourself if you want.
I loved it. That trial scene was one of the best choice sequences Telltale has ever put together. All your choices come roaring back at you from just about every relationship you've forged along the way. The amount of variations in dialogue depending on choices made throughout the season and the episode is staggering. I've been watching Let's Plays of the episode all day and I'm still finding out new stuff in that scene.
Or it's because of the fact that it was pre-amnesty.
That is true. He could be saying he hasnt killed anyone since.
Yep. That is what I was getting at.
It was better than what I expected after episode 4, but still can't get how Nerisssa's words confirm the crime and Telltale has left a small -i think it is- mystery behind, so if there will be a new season, what will it be about? I don't think the Faith/Nerissa thing is worth a season, but maybe a DLC with the past of them -maybe we can control another person who is close to them-
Classic Shane :')
I too ultimately found it lacking, While i did enjoy the trial scene for those who made that choice, it was nice to see the choices you made affecting the crowd. But the whole Faith thing at the end was just too much, in a 5 sec memory jot i was suppose to remember that faith said the line "your not as bad as..." in episode one that i played last year! It also left players with no closure with the whole snow situation, basically your character does everything for this woman and you don't even know if she feels the same way. I didn't get why bluebeard kept fucking with Bigby. It didn't go into the farm at all and left no inkling about it. And it didn't go into the witches on the thirtieth floor. It left too much unanswered without giving anyone any hope of knowing if it will ever be answered.
That was a pretty memorable line. I think most people were able to remember that.
Women, amirite fellas? /joke
But, really, there can't be any closure with Bigby's relationship with Snow in the game because that takes place in the comics.
A. He's an asshole and B. Again, that dynamic is explored further in the comics.
Comics.
Comics.
Yeah, there could have been more, but that leaves space for the sequel anyway, I suppose. I would more upset if TWDs ending was like this game's ending. I am glad they did find the culprit, because I suspected you wouldn't and it would be left hanging.
Lol, but dude what about players that don't read the comics. You can't make a successful movie show or game in where you tell your viewers "O? you don't get it? you need to read the book" they can't expect people to read the comics in order to understand their story, if they are using the comics, they still need to acknowledge that there is a good chunk of us that don't read the comics and therefore need to be let in on the story. I mean its bullshit, i shouldn't have to read the comics they should have put that in there is what I'm saying.
I didn't think you needed to read the comics in order to understand the game's story. You said you wanted certain aspects used in the game like the 13th floor and The Farm to be explored further. Which happens in the comics. In-game, they tell you as much about each location as you need to know to understand their place in the story.
Can anyone please help a rabid fan out?
I'd never even heard of this comic before probably episode 3 or 4 of this game. However, I bought this day freakin' one because I -love- the insanity and idea behind "fairytales" we all grew up with having actual adult meaning and it all being a ruse/stories/etc. The show on ABC, Once Upon A Time, was the first time the thought ever even crossed my mind and I admit, how dumb am I at 29 yrs old to never get this concept on my own? Alas, never did. Had a kid back in 2011, been really balls deep in those fairytales again, and here comes Once Upon A Time and.. pop Mind blown. Then a bit later, I see this game on Steam, and a few of my favorite YouTubers bought it.. bish bash bosh, bought. Done deal. Stuck in ever since.
Now about ep 3 or possibly 4, I heard this was only a prequel to a long established comic. So there's more books and stories out there.. so I'm like a;lskdfja;lsdkfjas;lfdkjas;dlfkj etc. etc. crazy nutso excited.. Borat AYE VEDY CITE
Sadly, no comic book stores within 100 miles here, and even if there was, I have no idea how/where to start, how much of what I've seen in the game even makes sense, if it's even the same style/story/etc., all I have in the end are characters and I don't even know if -they- are accurate..
So here I am, hoping one of you guys are not only fanboys like me, but also quite a bit more brilliant so you can beat the s*** out of me with a newbpaddle, then afterwards kindly point me in a feasible direction to as where I can obtain the rest of the story, OR if someone well read enough can tell me straight up if the game is better than the comics and if I'd be wasting my time, etc. etc. etc..
Thanks again. PLZ HALP<3
Try comixology if you dont mind reading them in digital form. Or you can buy volumes from amazon.com.
you think you're the only one