If Sarita dies....would anyone really care?

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  • Just think of it this way. Remove Jane from the story. What changes? Would anyone have suggested to use the pulley to hoist Clem onto the roof? Why would they? None of them use it enough to know what it can and cannot handle. Sure, Clem could have brought up the walker camo, so Jane wasn't so necessary there, but it was still her input that gave the idea the boost it needed. How about Troy? He had a gun on the group while they tried to escape. She managed to neutralize Troy as the walkers descended upon them without drawing any attention to the group. Does anyone in this group know how to deal with so many walkers at once other than Jane?

    Now remove Sarita. Is there any function she serves that other characters do not? Moral support? Clem can do that. Source of grief and loss? He's still torn up about Katjaa and Duck. Rescued after Savannah? Matthew and Walter.

    Sarita is a redundant character. She's likeable and all, but she's still unnecessary. That's why people in general don't care that she's dying.

    Glinda posted: »

    I can't believe people don't care about Sarita, yet Jane seems to be a fan favorite right now.

  • Right, you've completely convinced me. So true.

    BlackBoxx posted: »

    Just think of it this way. Remove Jane from the story. What changes? Would anyone have suggested to use the pulley to hoist Clem onto the

  • Is she? I guess she reminds people of Molly.

    Glinda posted: »

    I can't believe people don't care about Sarita, yet Jane seems to be a fan favorite right now.

  • That is true, but Sarita for me is a worse substitute, Sarita is likable but that's just about it she's not interesting.

    skoothz posted: »

    Yes and no. She had a lot of characterization, but it was put to no use. Her role in the story was to be an extension of Kenny.

  • Clementine for moral support? She become half emoctionless.
    Actualy Sarita helped Rebecca while Alvin was killed/got by Carver
    Also, she helped Kenny being alive all this time
    And, if you think of that, many characters are useless. Like Rebecca, Sarah, Alvin and others.

    BlackBoxx posted: »

    Just think of it this way. Remove Jane from the story. What changes? Would anyone have suggested to use the pulley to hoist Clem onto the

  • Matthew and Walter didn't rescue Kenny. Those two were already at the lodge by the time Sarita and Kenny had got there. So if she was removed, then your precious Kenny would be dead.

    BlackBoxx posted: »

    Just think of it this way. Remove Jane from the story. What changes? Would anyone have suggested to use the pulley to hoist Clem onto the

  • I'd care...for what it's worth.

  • I don't think I'm explaining myself too well. I was referring to strong characters vs. weak characters. Strong characters move the plot forward directly. Jane removes an obstacle from their escape while keeping the group safe from the hundreds of zombies surrounding them. This is an action that directly moved things forward. Jane is a strong character, albeit with very few actions under her belt thanks to her recent introduction.

    Sarita does not affect the plot directly, but indirectly. She inspires other characters who take action, or comforts people, but she does not have any responsibility for any event that has happened. Sarita is a weak character.

    Keep in mind that strong vs. weak has no bearing on how likeable a character is. Sarita is plenty likeable and is weak. Carver is unlikeable and is strong. Of course, this aspect is entirely subjective, while strong or weak descriptors are not.

    So basically, what I was saying is you could remove Jane form the story, and the plot would have to change in response. The group would need to find a new way to escape, and deal with Troy. Heck, the new way might even remove Troy entirely from his obstruction. That's a big plot change. But, remove Sarita and nothing needs to change at all. Kenny can still appear at the lodge with the same "I got lucky" story. Kenny's fall to despair can still be about Katjaa, Duck, Walter and Matthew.

    BlackBoxx posted: »

    Just think of it this way. Remove Jane from the story. What changes? Would anyone have suggested to use the pulley to hoist Clem onto the

  • My Clementine barely knows Sarita and their most important action thus far has been cutting off her hand in order to save her life, so I can't imagine their future interactions will be all that friendly. However, my Clementine loves Kenny and given this was his chance at rebuilding his life--she'll be less than happy at her loss.

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    • Without Sarita, Kenny would have continued to shoot at Carver in S2E2, resulting in most of the character's death.

    • Without Sarita, they'd have to use someone else as Kenny's rescuer.

    • Without Sarita, no one would have actually cared whether an 11 year old watched a man get brutally murdered,

    • Without Sarita, Sarah would has most likely died in the horde.

    • Without Sarita, none of the characters, other than Clem, would care about Kenny at all.

    • Without Sarita, Kenny would still be depressed, whether he escaped Savannah or not.

    So, I think Sarita does affect the plot.

    Also what is this about her being weak? In both episodes she's appeared in she has killed walkers. More than I can say for many other characters..

    BlackBoxx posted: »

    I don't think I'm explaining myself too well. I was referring to strong characters vs. weak characters. Strong characters move the plot fo

  • Nope, I don't care about Sarita.

  • edited July 2014

    As I said to a friend earlier today:

    Person012345: but sarita is just kenny

    Person012345: I don't know anything about her really

    Person012345: underdeveloped character I think

    Person012345: Like, I like sarita since she was nice to sarah

    Person012345: but her character just seems to be "kenny;'s girlfriend"

    Person012345: that's her defining trait

    Person012345: at least from what I saw

    Person012345: I just would have liked to have seen her developed as her own character

  • Even though she doesn't have hardly any characterization... i'd still feel bad if she dies.

  • edited July 2014

    She's not interesting nor does she have "moments"

    Purugly posted: »

    * Without Sarita, Kenny would have continued to shoot at Carver in S2E2, resulting in most of the character's death. * Without Sarita, th

  • edited July 2014

    Whne does that happen? O.o i wanna see it!

    Carley123 posted: »

    Hell yes and her hilarious lines in episode 3, my favorite one went something like this. Troy: "Shut up Indian lady!" Kenny: "Hey!-" Sarita: "It fine, I am Indian"

  • A troll, Sarita fan, who knows?

    Blinx posted: »

    Who the hell is the guy going around and downvoting these comments? Anyways....i care about Sarita. I do. I don't want Kenny being depres

  • edited July 2014

    All the nice people die and we're left with assholes.

    • Omid's dead, he was a nice guy.
    • Pete's dead, he was a nice guy.
    • Matthew's dead, he was a nice guy.
    • Walter's dead, he was a nice guy.
    • Reggie's dead, he was a nice guy.
    • Sarita's probably gonna die. She was nice.
    • Sarah's probably gonna die. She's nice.

    Moral of the story; being nice gets you killed in TWD. And we're left with people like Kenny, who's kind of an asshole, Jane, who isn't exactly nice, and Luke who has his off days.

  • I HATED Alvin's death in episode 3, it felt so rushed and underwhelming.

    Nonatastic posted: »

    Eh, the TT staff will probably manage to direct her death scene (if it happens, people have been saying they wouldn't care for so long that

  • at the start of episode 3 if Clementine pulls the fence thing and Troy opens it. I believe that's how you get the line.

    That1Guy posted: »

    Whne does that happen? O.o i wanna see it!

  • it's not like Sarita is Needed to be Kenny's rescuer.
    Since how it happened off-screen and is ultimately irrelevant to the story and characters for now, anyone(besides Clem and the Cabin crew for story purposes) could have came to Kenny's aid and brung him to the Lodge.

    Purugly posted: »

    Matthew and Walter didn't rescue Kenny. Those two were already at the lodge by the time Sarita and Kenny had got there. So if she was removed, then your precious Kenny would be dead.

  • Clem could also be the reason why Kenny doesn't shoot at Carver.

    Mathew, Walter, or a new character could have saved him for all we care and nothing different would have happened in the story.

    Someone else could have been written to care.

    Someone else could have been written to do that

    Someone else could have been written to like Kenny

    Kenny is still sad over Duck and Katjaa's death.

    Purugly posted: »

    * Without Sarita, Kenny would have continued to shoot at Carver in S2E2, resulting in most of the character's death. * Without Sarita, th

  • Well they could have written someone else in for everything Jane, Mike or any of the characters for what they've done.

    BenUseful posted: »

    Clem could also be the reason why Kenny doesn't shoot at Carver. Mathew, Walter, or a new character could have saved him for all we care

  • You misunderstand his meaning with strong vs. weak. He does not mean physically, mentally, etc. He means it from a literary perspective, analyzing the plot.

    If you prefer, you can think of active vs. passive. Kenny, Clem, Lee, Carver, etc ACTIVELY drive the plot through their explicit actions and goals. They do the things that move the plot forward. A passive character, like Sarita, Matthew, Sarah, etc do not drive the plot through their actions, but by their effect and relationship on other characters.

    Sarita changes the plot THROUGH Kenny by affecting him. The other things she changes she does not by explicit action, but by influencing other characters that perform the actions. For example: Walter can choose to not save Nick in Episode 2. It is Clem's influence that causes Nick's death, but you cannot say that Clem made the choice to save Nick. She did not - she is a passive/weak character influencing an active/strong character in that situation.

    By calling Sarita weak, he does not mean that Sarita is weak in any tangible way personality-wise or physically. He means that she does not take action to drive the plot forward, instead acting as a character that influences the decisions of the action-takers. In much the way Clementine was in Season 1. Very rarely did she DO anything, but she influenced Lee to do things, which ends up being equivalent but not quite.

    Purugly posted: »

    * Without Sarita, Kenny would have continued to shoot at Carver in S2E2, resulting in most of the character's death. * Without Sarita, th

  • edited July 2014

    Really?
    I will be sad guys :(Alt text

  • @Purugly you make some excellent points,Sarita might not be a main character but she has contributed more than people realise to the plot of season 2.

    Purugly posted: »

    * Without Sarita, Kenny would have continued to shoot at Carver in S2E2, resulting in most of the character's death. * Without Sarita, th

  • Yes! That is exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for spelling it out where I failed.

    Nonatastic posted: »

    You misunderstand his meaning with strong vs. weak. He does not mean physically, mentally, etc. He means it from a literary perspective, ana

  • being nice gets you killed in TWD.

    Michelle's rotting carcass kind of disproves that theory, don't you think?

    JakeSt123 posted: »

    All the nice people die and we're left with assholes. * Omid's dead, he was a nice guy. * Pete's dead, he was a nice guy. * Matthew's

  • Amen to that. It has to do with the stories being short and thus having a beginning, middle and end right there for you to enjoy. Everything had to have a purpose and be written out properly in advance, instead of written by the seat of the author's pants.

    We actually agree on something: the 400 Days characters were very interesting for being involved in 30 minute segments, while the Season 2 Characters are uninteresting throughout 3 1 hour 30 minute long episodes.

  • We had like what, two short dialogues with her? And I'm supposed to care about her?

  • It doesn't mean being a douche doesn't get ya killed either XD

    being nice gets you killed in TWD. Michelle's rotting carcass kind of disproves that theory, don't you think?

  • edited July 2014

    Clem: Not dead, unlikely to die in this season (would be kinda lame to pull the same thing as season 1).

    WHAT NOW HUH?

    JakeSt123 posted: »

    All the nice people die and we're left with assholes. * Omid's dead, he was a nice guy. * Pete's dead, he was a nice guy. * Matthew's

  • Fuck. This. Discussion.

  • The problem with Sarita is that while, yes, she does sort of indirectly contribute to the plot, that’s the problem. Her involvement in the story is so indirect she may as well not be there at all. Here’s a good comparison: Doug from episode 1.

    I’ll start off by saying that I actually like Doug more than Carley and think he was awesome in episodes 2 and 3, but Telltale kind of dropped the ball with him in the first episode, which the developers themselves admitted. We barely interact with him, we barely learn about his character, and most importantly, he barely does anything notable at all. Contrast with Carley. She saves countless lives, she promises to keep Lee’s secret, you can comfort her after her friends at the radio station are attacked, she goes with you on a dangerous mission to save Glenn…

    About the only noteworthy thing Doug did was save Carley. Okay, so if Doug did something as badass and heroic as that, why were the stats so skewed towards Carely? Disregarding the whole “male gamer saves girl” debate, the problem is that Doug saved Carley off screen. We never actually see him do anything during the episode, only told that he did, which makes it difficult to truly appreciate the scope of what he did.

    This is exactly what’s wrong with Sarita. We’re told what she does, not shown. We’re vaguely told that Sarita saved Kenny. We’re told that Sarita and Kenny love each other. We’re told that Sarita is the only reason Kenny isn’t depressed.

    How much more effective would her character have been if we’d actually seen any evidence of their relationship during the game? I’m willing to bet people would care a lot more about her if, say, she saved Kenny from a walker onscreen, or if you got to eavesdrop on a touching conversation between them in which Sarita comforts Kenny about his family and reminds him that she lost a loved one as well or something.

    The only memorable thing Sarita has done thus far is save Sarah from a walker, but that scene is so brief (like, half a second long) and so hectic (Carlos has just died) that you barely notice that Sarita did anything at all.

    Purugly posted: »

    * Without Sarita, Kenny would have continued to shoot at Carver in S2E2, resulting in most of the character's death. * Without Sarita, th

  • Cool, I would still feel shocked if any of them were to die.

    We actually agree on something: the 400 Days characters were very interesting for being involved in 30 minute segments, while the Season 2 Characters are uninteresting throughout 3 1 hour 30 minute long episodes.

  • I happen to like Sarita she is a good mother figure for Clementine :), So yes I would care
  • Why?

    Fuck. This. Discussion.

  • Not really.

    I will be sad for the group/Kenny, but will I as the player care?

    No. Not really, I think Vernon said it best.


    "You want to know the worst part?
    I don't feel much, i mean, i don't feel enough. Shouldn't i be broken up over what happened to her? That's how i was when i lost my daughter. When i lost my friends in those first weeks, but now, its like i just take something like this in stride. Like this is what our world is now, and we better get used to it."
  • This isn't even a spoiler. It's common sense.

    One, she bleeds too fast and would pass out rather quickly.

    Two, walker bite plus the amount of time it would take to escape the herd.

    Honestly, cutting Sarita's arm off was a rash action for me. I went back and killed the walker
    to buy her more time with Kenny.
  • She didn't get a whole lot of development, so I can't say i'll cry if she dies, but she'll be missed.
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