I'm done with compassion.
Just played episode 4. And, man... I'm done trying to be compassionate. With Sarah dead, I'm just going to do what I need to do to survive. She was my ticket to do some good and help someone down the line, and I couldn't even do that right. Now If ANYONE gets in my way, they die.
Damnit, the hopelessness.
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This episode broke me..
I stole from a guy ..
Killed Kenny's only bright light
Didnt try and help Sarah
Got on Luke's bad side
And possibly got everyone but me killed..
I know taking from the Russian bastard was going to backfire. I just knew that was a bad mistake as soon as I did it. But why was he dumping it in the trashcan?
Probably to hide it or use it as a pick-up location for people coming later.
I helped, tried to anyway. But I did steal from Arvo, and shot Rebecca without hesitation... what's all this for though?
All what for?
The sacrifices and losses.
Arvo is the last straw. I didn't take his meds. The gun is a given. It's way too damn risky to give back the gun. I let him go and now my group is getting screwed over. I'm done. I'm done with being idealistic.
I want Clem to be good, but she defiantly can't make every nice decision anymore. She's starting to get older, people won't see her as just a nice little girl soon.
How? Is it actually possible for him to hate you?
I know that when he said "we're taking all your stuff," I said "you're not taking anything from us." At that point, I couldn't care less if we died for the principle of it. I'm not letting people walk over us anymore.
I agree. This episode "broke" me if you will.
the russians won against the walkers it's red dawn time season 3 lets kill all the russian invaders clem verses russia
Lol They just could have stayed hidden, waited until Arvo left and gotten the pills from the trash can.
Avenge me!
Ditto on the compassion. What's the point.... yeah, it's the ZA and everyone is trying to survive, but it would be nice for once to have a good deed get rewarded
yea i hope clem can kill arvo i regret not stealing from him now and i hope clem can hatchet his sister right in front of him while she is alive better yet toss him the nail file and tell to cut his balls off to save his sister and if he does it kill her anyway but leave him alive to suffer
What about the baby though? I mean I'm sure as shit not taking care of him. But...
You and me both. They want trouble, they've got it.
Times like this, is when I remember Walter from Episode 2. Reggie from Episode 3. Pete from Episode 1. The hope you gave Sarah in Episode 4.
And then I remember a nice quote from another media.
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." (Lee vs Clem)
At this point, I'll just be me. Anybody poses any threat, they die. You want to steal from me, you die and get robbed. I'm no longer concerned about "feelings" and pity. The only certainty is people die and good people are in short supply.
I knew DAMN sure it was going to backfire, that's why I wanted the option to kill him.. >.> Why Jane?!
Nick's death was when I lost hope, it was a terrible "death", it just wasn't well done. I did everything I believed was right though, I didn't steal and I saved Sarah. And when Arvo says you stole the medicine, I'm guessing either Jane or someone we don't know took it or he was covering up his failure.
Well, I stole his supplies. So he had every right to attack, but they got under my skin when they were laughing and had the most smug faces. "We're taking your stuff," "Over my dead body."
I doubt I'd be as gruesome as that, but I agree. I've been screwed with for the final time.
That is very fitting.
I believe if you mention the baby to Arvo he tries to get his group to put down their weapons (In Russian, so most people didn't know).
I believe Arvo said they were laughing at the fact that Arvo got robbed by an eleven-year-old.
Even if you don't take anything (other than his gun, so he can't shoot you), the Russians still rob you. It's pretty dumb.
Interesting. I felt like this episode wasn't that much different from others. Clem did what she could. Just like in the rest of the series, I win some and lose some.
I let Arvo keep his drugs, helped Sarah, consoled people when I could, and stopped arguments when I could.
In the end, nothing changed, and none of Clem's efforts did anything. Big deal. Clementine is still a survivor and still knows what type of person she is.
But I think going forward in the future, yeah, I no longer will trust scouts. Too many survivor groups send out scouts to identify people to attack. So, if I come across someone scouting who has a bunch of good stuff like Arvo (or asks for supplies like Bonnie), I'm taking their stuff and not helping out with free supplies. I wish there had been an option to say "Arvo, I have no idea if the story you're telling about your sister is real or not. But there's a pregnant lady back at camp, a guy who may have an infected eye, and another guy who is badly injured. They need these meds, and since I have no way of knowing if your story is true, I'm taking the meds to help the people I know need it."
Basically, groups should keep their valuables protected at camp, and only send out scouts to try to scavenge, not expect to get anything from other groups.
It wasn't the events themselves that made me snap, it was that every single thing we've endured was for shit. That and everyone's true colors were shown. Kenny hates me cause I made a split second decision to try to save Sarita, Luke is a disappointment that only cares about his own interests, Jane is a hypocrite, and the group as a whole is not concerned with anyone but themselves.
A fire went off when Sarah died, nobody gave a fuck a young girl died a death she had no control over. Just like Pete, just like Reggie, just like Carlos, just like Nick, and now Sarah. They're selfish, and I'm done with them.
Nah i ain't giving up... There is still good...They wont break who my clem is...
It's not necessarily "giving up," it's switching lanes. I tried through everything to get some good out of people. It's just too far gone though. So now I worry about me and my interests first.
Sometimes "switching lanes" means you inflict pain emotionally or physically on others just as unfortunate as you. I am trying to keep Clementine's humanity in tact and follow in the footsteps of Lee. No matter how hard the world tries to change her into a killer or bad person my Clem wont become that.. thats true strength.
Actually, if you decide to stay hidden when Arvo tries to put the bag in the trash can, he still sees you.
I just want her to be like "screw you guys, I'm going home" while everyone looks around confused wondering just where exactly that is.
I fucking helped that piece of shit arvo because i believed him. Well maybe he does have a sister, anyways he fucked up big times at the end.
Yeah I read about this too. It's another case where your choices really don't change anything.
Agreed. But sometimes "staying the course" means crashing. And I simply can't allow that to happen to her.
I guess we will see how this all turns out in the end.. Good luck with your decisions in episode 5
Thank you, you as well...
Fuck Arvo! Gave back his meds and he still attacked us. Fucking prick, I would break his other leg.