I'm just not interested anymore..
I bet people are gonna reply to this saying ''There's still one episode left!'' but we've been saying that same line with a different number for too long now. This season doesn't make me feel the emotion and excitement that Season One and TWAU brought me.
What at all did that title screen have to do with the episode? nothing, they could of at least changed it like TWAU Ep3. Choices didn't really matter a lot in the first place with the previous games, but they did mean something for most of the game. here the choices you make only influence maybe the next couple minutes.
Another thing I wanna say.... Nick. 'Nuff said about that.
Carver had so much potential, I won't lie I enjoyed his death but after playing I thought that they really could of done a lot with his character. 400 days still hasn't made any differences except cameos. The Sarah choice really did nothing. The Arvo choice did nothing. It really just doesn't matter anymore, so I don't care about the game anymore.
I will play episode five, I'm not just gonna stop but for telltale's sake it better be an improvement.
I know this seems like hating, but I like to think of it as expression my opinion, and all of you are free to do that too whether you disagree with me or not.
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It seems there are two statements being said here on both sides. For those hating the episodes, they say "It's my opinion. You don't have to agree with it." For those enjoying the episodes, they say "If you don't like it, don't play it".
I think it's time we have... an adult conversation. A lot of the people here seem to be saying "I'm not feeling the feels anymore." It's probably because you're becoming like Vernon. You're used to it now, and it's upsetting you. So you blame the game. You're looking to find emotional attachment for TWD. You really don't care about how it ends, or how the story proceeds. You don't care about it as a game, you care about it as nostalgia for Season 1. Why don't you sit back and enjoy the rest of the story, and take a page from Lee's book and try helping people instead of indulging yourself.
Well man, you may be right and I respect you trying to help. You did manage to make me respect the episode a bit more, but it's really just the quality of the episode I don't like, They could remove everything relating to season one as long as the actual episode lived up to how good season one episodes were, that's how i feel.
Season 1 is a monument that needs to be admired, especially with so many games trying to be films these days. We can't allow ourselves to fall into the trap of finding something to top it or be it's equal. Nothing can ever come close to it, and not all installments to popular franchises ever had succeeded it's highest point. In the case of TWD, the peak of the series will always be Season 1, Episode 5.
Clem's Season 2 isn't Lee's Season 1. It never will match up to it, but we can't let that disappoint us too much into hating it, or ignoring it.
How did the choices in Wolf matter a lot? No matter what choice you get the same ending with Nerissa, the Crooked Man is still guilty no matter what you say or do. And LOTS of the choices had very small impacts (so do some choices in the walking dead) I am just confused at those who bash season 2 at the whole choices issue. I must respectfully disagree with "not caring" I care about Clementine, the baby, Kenny and Luke so I care about half of the group right there. I'm actually more scared for Clementine than I ever have been, what if she gets shot, or lost, or worse. And about Carver I think it was his early death that made it better, everyone expected him to make it to episode 5 but a death in episode 3 was a major twist. So season 2 isn't as good as season 1 and I agree, but as a fan I'm defiantly going into episode 5 with lots of interest, especially after episode 4.
I think it's good that TWD players are so passionate one way or the other, because it shows how much Telltale succeeded with Season 1.
Fire, if you look at Season 1 many of the choices had little impact on the overall story as well. The difference was context. Choosing who to give food to was a heart-wrenching thing. Deciding whether or not to admit to taking a photo of Sarah is not. I get that S2's choices are meant to reflect Clem's more subtle character growth (honesty, loyalty, etc.) compared to the life/death choices Lee had to make, and as a result S2 feels less gripping. It's not that S2's choices are bad, but I think that's why they don't have the same emotional impact.
Itchy, I personally don't think it's a good thing to say, "It would be really hard to top Season 1, give Telltale some credit." It is hard to top Season 1, and I do give them a lot of credit! But Telltale decided to continue Clementine's story, so I think we should somewhat hold them to maintaining their own standard. A lot boils down to the fact that the characters are less interesting this time around, probably because of the larger cast. And with shorter play times there's even less room for character development.
Ultimately, I honestly believe since Sean Vanaman and Jake Rodkin left Telltale (the lead writers on TWD Season 1) Telltale just hasn't been able to capture the same sympathetic characters we loved in S1, and that's been my biggest disappointment. Still obviously love Clem, but I care much less about those around her.
Well, all I can say is that they're probably doing their best with what they've got left. Without the lead writers from Season 1, they may be fallen but definitely not forsaken.
I dont experience the emotional rollercoaster like in Season 1, but i still like the game. The story is good, the characters are good. Overall S2 is not on the same level as S1, but $5 for 90 minutes of entertainment? I have spent much more on worse games.
So this is awkward, because I wrote that all before playing Episode 4. I'll happily eat my words.
It COMPLETELY turned me around. I don't know why, but it really got to me. I still think Telltale fumbled with the writing of the first three episodes, but this one totally surpassed my expectations. This is more of the Season 1 that I loved. High hopes for the finale.
I really enjoyed this ep more than the previous 3. Had very intenss scenes, lots of action moments and walkers and i actually felt there was more gameplay than the last 3. The ep for me was still too short though, seems like they wont go back to Season 1s lengths sadly. Im still disappointed that hardly any of choices matter like they did in Season 1. I was hoping to have 2 saves, a nice Clem and a cold Clem. But no matter what nothing changed in characters personalities.
Im looking forward to ep5
i know what you mean OP,i don't have the same enthusiam for ep 5,mostly because of the way how Sarah's character was handled,but i'll stick with it,i only care about Clem and Kenny now.
I know this season has not been nearly as good as TWAU or TWD S1 but to be honest I have enjoyed it even with the illusion of choice I have always loved TWD.
There are a few things that are needed. (This isn't in direct reply to you, Itchy, but rather just your comment on 'having an adult conversation)
1) People need to treat each other and Telltale with respect, along with making sure the criticism is helpful.
2) People need to realise that all they have is an opinion and that they only speak for themselves.
3) Telltale don't really have to bow to people's demands either and, to be frank, it would be impossible to satisfy everyone.
4) Feel free to make your voices heard, but there's no sense in making thread after thread, complaining about the same things. And well, if you really hate the game, then I do wonder why you're here.
That is really all that's needed. To treat each other and Telltale with respect, respect the opinion of others and not act holier-than-thou while making your voices heard, but not so much so that it turns the place into a den that seethes with hatred. Afterall, the devs do need criticism, by and large, but there are two types of critcism: the right kind and the wrong kind. Plus if one were to look through the threads here on a passing glance, they could be forgiven for thinking everyone hated the game and that it's the worst thing ever. Put yourself in the shoes of Telltale or, if you prefer, the game developers and writers rather than Telltale as a whole. Or imagine you made something and people were acting this way towards your product.
Edit: Oh, one other thing. Pretty much nothing is 100% perfect and I find people tend to focus on the slightest things being wrong, while using those slight flaws to say they've ruined everything. A few slight flaws don't make the entire experience awful folks, to whoever it may concern.