Actions DO NOT speak louder than words (Spoilers)
Now, I know that this is not always the case, but hear me out on this.
So telltale is pretty much obviously gearing up towards a Luke/Kenny incident or choice. Now, the point of this is that neither of them are like able enough to make this choice. Now, don't get me wrong: I like the characters from time to time, but we are not getting enough development with either of them. All we are being shown are their actions. Ken lashes out at Clem, no matter what you chose, and Luke sleeps with Jane regardless of saying you don't like or trust her the whole episode. They don't listen to us. All the conversations with them seem onesided, and we cannot sway them either way.
Now look at Mike on the other hand, who is the fucking man and everybody loves. He has barely had 1 episode to develop! Luke and Kenny have both had around 3 to win us over. Almost all of the interactions that have made us like him so far have been social. It hasn't even been one day since the episode was released and there are quotes of his and people preaching their preference to TeamMike in nearly every thread. Yet he will still most likely be tossed aside because he isn't Kenny, and he isn't Luke.
All I'm saying is that actions aren't everything, yet two very important characters are sitting on one side of an unbalanced seesaw.
Thoughts?
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I agree. I would really like to see more interaction with the Clem and all the other characters. I miss just learning about their lives!!
It could have been an interesting choice until this episode. Now I just really want the option to let them both die.
Yeah, I don't really see how they could both redeem themselves in less than one episode, especially if Telltale keeps with their 90 minute rule. If it was 2.5 or more, then maybe, but I can't see it happening if it's that short.
If there is an option to leave Luke and Kenny behind(which I doubt there will be)and go with Bonnie and Mike,I'll gladly go with those two.
Yes, from what they've given us so far, I agree. #Bike4lyf
Clem always wanted a bike anyway.
All I want is for Clem to live happily ever after and have episode 5 end with her riding on Mike's shoulders off into the sunset with Bonnie not far behind.
They could all frolic through a meadow aswell.
Actions do speak louder than words. Kenny rarely lashed out at my Clem because I sided with him more often than not. It was Luke who usually lashed out instead because I failed to side with him on most occasions. When Kenny did lash out at Clem like for Sarita's death, it was understandable. The guy just lost the love of his life a second time. If he didn't lash out, I'd be worried he'd just give up. Would have been nice for Clem to have had an option to hug Kenny after Sarita died.
When Kenny does something, though, why did he do it? A part of him did it out of anger in some instances. In others he did it to protect the group. In episode 4, for instance, he didn't have to go kill the walkers advancing on the group before they moved to the gift shop. He went to kill a few to vent his frustration and buy some time. What did Luke do at the same time? Vented his own energy in another way that wasn't so productive for the group. Kenny also helped Rebecca deliver her baby even though he could have been a jerk and said no. You can go back to the first episode of season 2 where Luke was carrying Clem back to the cabin only to drop her when he saw her bite. Kenny didn't do such a thing to Duck nor to Sarita. He didn't even do it to Lee. Outside of Lee, Kenny can stay with Duck and Sarita until the end. Luke would have just ditched Clem and left her to die alone. Kenny also has yet to abandon the group. He talked about doing such in the first season but he never did. He was with Lee until almost the end. Luke has gone MIA pretty much every episode. Then in episode 3, who took the blame for the walkie talkie? I very much doubt Luke would have done what Kenny did. Luke would have let Carver beat Clem.
Kenny didn't have just 3 episodes of development, either. He had the first season as well. There are several mentions of him having a family in this episode so season 1 is not thrown out the window. That's still relevant to Kenny. You can't expect him to remain the same after the trauma he's been through. In that setting, you either change to fit the situation or you go insane. Luke hasn't had as much back story in comparison, and with him going MIA on a regular basis, if a Kenny vs Luke choice is made, I know who I'm going with. We saw where Kenny was and where he is now after two years. He still cares for Clem although he's a bit more brutal. But he has to be or he'd be dead. Luke, we don't really know where he was two years ago or where he will go. We know where he is now and for all we know, he can turn into a psychotic murderer later when he ends up the last one standing of his group (due to people leaving and/or dying).
That said, I honestly don't see Kenny or Luke making it out of the finale alive anyway. Chances are one ends up dead in the beginning based up choices you made previously while the other ends up dead at the end. Which one you play the episode with could be related to a simple choice like Doug vs Carley or Nick vs Pete or it could relate to every little choice we've made this season.
Certainly possible Mike makes it out of the episode just fine or vanishes with Bonnie at some point. Also possible Mike, Bonnie, Clem, and the baby all make it out just fine which leads into season 3. At this point, with no trailer, we can't really assume anything. Given how much development Mike got in the latest episode, you'd hope he'd live ... but this is The Walking Dead as well as Telltale. Don't expect it because chances are he might end up dead in the gunfight at the beginning of the next episode.
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It feels like a lot of people forget that at least one or two people will die from episode 4's ending, so I'm not too sure Mike or Bonnie will live through it.
I'm hoping that everybody ducks and the Russians all accidentally kill each other. Then they all get in a boat and go to Wellington singing Kumbaeya.
I agree. I wish our choices actually mattered more. I think if there is a Luke vs. Kenny choice in EP5 then they will be very one sided. I think a lot of people are just gonna pick Kenny as we've been with him longer and he's had more character development (in S1). I also think Luke is sorta boring.
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I'm inclined to agree with you, they really went a strange way with them this episode if the endgoal is still a choice between them. Neither of them came out looking very appealing and neither of them had Clementine's back or seemed invested in her mental/emotional well-being. They were both just too busy being unpleasant and wallowing in their own issues. That being said, Kenny came out if it being less damaged than Luke in people's eyes and as a still sort-of Luke fan I'm pissed off that this episode screwed him (no pun intended).
Kenny may have been a major asshole here, but he has enough history to mediate that for a lot of people. Luke doesn't, and I was so hopeful coming off of episode 3's heavy Kenny focus that Luke would get the same treatment in episode 4 to even out the odds a little bit. He definitely didn't, we still don't know much about him, what we did learn in this episode was nothing favorable, and what the heck happened to his bond with Clementine? Right, a stupid romance subplot for him to obsess over and be a moron about was more important than giving him a real scene to talk/grieve to us about Nick or have that, "Hey, you okay?" scene actually be a real conversation between him and Clementine, about him and Clementine. Ugh, rant over, I just don't get this and they could've done so much more with Luke's character.
I don't knw if I would say boring, exactly. Maybe just underdeveloped? A character with potential, but has just a generic outline of background and a personality that doesn't per say correlate with itself.
Speaking of this made me remember that in twdg documentary, they talked about they wanted to make a bigger argument to drop/keep Ben, by showing things like how he left Clem in the streets, or stole the meds. but then explains why he did what he did through dialouge which makes you hope he redeems himself, or take pity on him. It makes you feel something. In this season, there is no argument. Just unresolved actions and characters with a linear storyline, rather than dynamic.
Instead of Kenny vs Luke, how about Kenny vs Christa, that would be way harder.
Would it though? Clem owes Christa more than anybody else, sure, but did we get to witness any of their heartbreaking, grueling efforts to survive? Nope, time skip. But, it's okay, because we'll learn more about it with Clem and Christa on the road togeth--oh wait, Christa disappears at the beginning of the first episode. It's cool, it's cool. We'll be able to talk about her all the time and how much we want to find her, ri--oh, no mention of her whatsoever after episode 2.
I would pick Christa, but similar to Luke, she's crippled in a contest against a character with so much damn screen time and development.
One can dream..... =(