WHERE YA AT NOW, KENNY FANS?
P.S. I'm not a Kenny hater (nor a Lily Fan ) but the title that I put there seems appropriate after playing this episode and seeing the reaction of people in some threads recently.
I think this is what we call the "heat of the moment" where Kenny does not think twice of what he's saying due to the events that have transpired. Sarita's death is like the last straw of him; a B*TCH SLAP from the apocalyptic world to him. He blamed Clementine for her actions, especially when you choose to cut off Sarita's hand (which actually gives her a chance to live) rather than killing the walker (which will only delay the inevitable). He even said that it's all Clementine's fault and even went far to guilt-tripping by blaming her for the death's of some of their friends.
Despite that, I'm still not giving up on Kenny though, thinking that he might do something big to redeem himself and show how grateful he is to Clementine and for what she's done to convince him to keep fighting.
Your thoughts?
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I don't think he needs to redeem himself. He was losing yet another loved one, and it happened in an especially fucked up way if Clem cut off Sarita's arm. I can't really blame him for saying any of those things, and for the most part he puts it behind him by the end of the Episode.
True, except for those of us that were punished essentially for no reason? Because we didn't chop her arm off. If TT wanted to make Kenny act like that either way, then it shouldn't of been a choice. Clem should of just done it in the story, not us (the player).
My thinking behind not cutting her arm off was lots squirting blood in a heard of walkers means certain death since they rely heavily on scent. Was hoping we could get away from the heard and then maybe cut amputate. Didn't matter either way considering she dies though. However at least Kenny did have a chance to tell her bye in my playthrough. Thats something he didn't get to do with Kajita.
Im right here :P
What if he just tell us how he truly sorry to said mean things and put this on Clem? I'm okay with that. I mean people say bad things when things gone shit you know...(plus he felt like he literally lose everything at that moment,not count on clem, because apparently he wants the one who can take care of him as a lover)
I agree with you on how Kenny eventually put it behind him, but I don't think it's necessary for TellTale to have him say some deep shit to Clementine like that. I don't even understand what he meant when he said "you have no right" to Clementine.
Also, what's with the guilt-trip? It's like he wanted Clementine to know that she cannot escape taking blame for someone's death just because he's a little girl.
I actually thought Clem was gonna start telling off Kenny about how hard it was for her to lose Lee and seeing her zombie parents. However she just stayed quiet
His anger has always been an issue, and Clem was partially responsible when she cut off Sarita's arm.
I admit It felt like the right decision at the time. In hindsight, doing that was like drawing blood in the middle of a pool full of hungry piranha, with messy results. Kenny's grief and rage was justified, heat of the moment and heartbreaking though it may be.
Clem DID get Lee killed, so what's wrong with a guilt trip for that?
Here's a Kenny fan, u mad bro?
Man, just because Kenny berated Clem, doesn't mean I completely hate him. I thought it was understandable. I hated the way he did it, that's for sure, but I could understand why Kenny felt that way. He even, "sort of", apologized to Clem later on(if you choose the right dialogue option I think), saying that he shouldn't burden you with all this. Man everybody is so damn biased towards his reaction. I'm not a Kenny fan or hater, just a neutral, but jeez so many people aren't looking at it any other way.
Plus, he was in the heat of the moment. He isn't going to instantaneously apologize to Clem after something like that! Someone died, ok? She died. No one takes shit like that lightly. And cutting off Sarita's hand wouldn't even giver her a slight chance of surviving.
I don't my self a fan of anything besides a 49ers fan. Oh and TWD of course.
But i'm here for Kenny.
You can't hate him for what he said to Clem. Clem is not a baby and she knows how Kenny is. There's no use in defending Clem, because at the end of it, my Clem doesn't care. I was mad for like a few seconds, but i got over it.
Now people want Kenny to die over him getting mad at a little girl. Some stupid shit.
People lash out randomly when grieving, Kenny clearly doesn't actually blame Clem now he's thinking with a slightly clearer head, not sure why anything else is really necessary at this point. Clem's seen enough broken people to know how it works, Kenny got his shit together pretty quickly all things considered.
I will never hate Kenny, I love the character. From the game standpoint, I try to approach him with everything that had happened over the past few years in the back of my head. That poor bastard has been through a lot, so I do give him a lot of leeway because he always comes around in the end
Dude, you are surrounded by thousands of walkers, stressed trying to protect your group and a pregnant lady, you look at your right or left, i think it was left, and you see your girlfriend got her arm cut and she is bitten to death, hell yeah you are going to scream and be mad, im not saying Kenny had to say those things, im Kenny fan but he was really mean to clem, it made me switch to my "kill walker file" because it made me mad, but i understand, you can't really blame him especially in that situation.
Kenny killed Lee!
I still think Kenny would do anything to keep Clem safe. She's the only person he has left.
To be truthful, I've never liked him.
He seems so vulnerable to the environment. He's not strong like Clemmy or how Lee was. He always let's things fuck him up and snaps at everyone.
Don't like him.
I miss Lee...
He will do anything, people are always looking for reasons to hate him while the hate award should be for another member of the group, at least in this ep.
How the hell has Kenny survived this long while far better human beings like Lee, Omid, Pete, Doug, Carley, etc. have died?
MAN FUCK LOGIC. Telltale hates logic.
How?
Cause everytime he gets a hard beat down, he gets back up again. That's something you need if you want to survive the apocalypse.
There was nothing Kenny could do, not his fault, not his problem.
It is a long story are you sure?
I completely understand Kenny's anger in the moment. I just feel bad for him, having to go through yet another loss. I'm okay with him yelling at me to cool off some steam. I felt relieved when he snapped back to reality and started helping the baby. So, I'm still supportive of Kenny's character. Can't wait to see what happens with him next. I hope he gets to redeem himself more.
Lee died the moment he got bit. Kenny didn't kill him, it wasn't his fault, or Lily's fault, or Clem's, or Christa's, or Omid's.
Me and my friend were making a theory and Lee can survive season 1
Believe me, he is dead, i tried to imagine all the ways he could have survived but it's not possible, Clem even said she had to kill him, even if she missed the shot he would die because of blood loss, less blood means less oxygen to his brain and other vital organs, there's no way he made it out alive.
Is it like, if Lee somehow gotten Kenny to not steal the shit from the Stranger's wagon, then they would've been fine? Cause if so I can see why.
Like Joel from TLOU.
No! do you know what I'm done for today by
EDIT: Wait it had to do with the car...
I'm done for today
It's Kenny. You don't know what happens to him when he loses someone? This guy has a temper and it wasn't smart to expect him being thankful for Clementine. In fact, I was ready that he'll at me or something like this. We all have different personalities and Kenny has his one. Not perfect, not the worse. Just like everyone does.
I grew up in a family with temper. I don't know why but I'm the only non-confrontational person in my family. Can you imagine how it is - growing up among the endless scandals? My nervous system is fragile and I had to go through some hard times when I got into the pre-teen part of my life. In fact, I even have two nervous twitches. But I never blamed anyone from my family. Not my mother, not my father, not my older sister. Yes, I often wished that they could be more tolerant towards eachother. But I can't change them. And I used it all as an advantage. Because I learned how to interact with people who had a temper. Sadly, game doesn't give us much options to do it. We can't be gentle and nurturing that much.
I'm not the one who'll ragequit at someone like Kenny, call him an asshole or wish to slap him. I tried to be as nice and easygoing as I can. When he talked to me in the tent, I teared up a little bit. Not because I felt offended but because I felt sorry for him. He needed to yell at someone. He needed to throw out his emotions so he'll get better. And I let him do that. Of course I wasn't so pleased when he was too angry towards me. But I told him that I need him. He thanked me. He understood me. And I understood him. Everything will be fine again. He may not directly apologized to me but I did. And it's enough for me to know that he sees me as a capable child and someone he can hear the kind words from.
That's how I handle people like Kenny. I'm not mad at him at all. I just try to help him. And that's all.
I'm with Kenny I still believe in him even after episode 4. Kenny was an asshole in this episode but you its understanble since he lost Sarita but now that the baby is born he has a another reason to live.
You have the option to say that when you talk to him in the tent.
If it weren't for the bite, I would've said that Lee was still alive knowing that Kenny did it (how, is beyond me. He was freaking surrounded!) I wouldn't want to get my hopes up for nothing, really. -__-"
Not a Kenny fan so I'm probably in the wrong thread as I believe his time was up along time ago :P I get he was upset but he still shouldn't have spoke to Clementine like that. His actions this episode have only secured me supporting Team Luke. Sure he messed up this episode, but so did Kenny. Luke lost loved ones too and he has never spoke to Clementine the way Kenny did. Also... remember Christa and Omid? They had hanky panky when they thought it was safe... that's exactly what Luke did. Took Jane up on her offer when he/they thought it was safe!
I might be the only person thinking this. But I think Kenny would be an incredible dictator/villian in Season 3 ......
I'm a big, big kenny fan, but after seeing this latest episode he is really, really losing it. Shooting Rebecca in head at the end of episode 4 was the nail in the coffin of Kennys psychotic breakdown. He wants that baby for himself, to raise it as a replacement for the family he lost.
This is just an idea, and I think its too unlikely to happen so I'll say its a cool idea rather than a prediction. But if that baby dies in episode 5, Kenny will snap. He will completely lose it, and if season 3 has a new protagonist ( not Clementine ) it would be awesome if you stumble across kenny, after all of this, as a group leader, but a dictator like Carver or the Governor.
With all his past, the deaths of everyone and everything that he's gone through, I think he would make an incredible villian. So much depth and complexity would be behind his maddness. That's what I'd like to see in Season 3, a tyrannical pirate kenny hahaha
Doubt it will happen though, I'm not sure he will make it past this season
Plus, he was lucky. Real lucky (i.e. contrived writing and a vocal fanbase) :P
Can't wait for creepy baby-loving Kenny in Episode 5...