[SPOILER] What if they have something in mind?
We all know Sarah died no matter what in Episode 4. I know, I also thought that is another waste of character's potential, but what if Telltale have something in their mind? What if they did what they did for a reason? What if they're trying to tell us something that we simply don't get?
I also wanted Sarah to become a survivor like all of them, I also wanted to make matter the decision of teaching her how to use a gun, I also wanted to the friendship between her and Clem grow, but maybe her anxiety disorder would have never permit her to survive. After her dad died, she "cease to function" and she died too. Or maybe that's something else even I am missing too.
I also didn't get why they killed Carver so early, but then I did, they wanted to focus on Kenny's problems, on the baby, on other stuff, maybe they'll do the same now.
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Telltale just wanted to go with a small group to Wellington.So they killed 4 person (with Nick) in this episode and next episode probably gonna start with someone's death..so..
(yesijustquotedjane)
Remember when telltale killed off 3 characters in s1e3 and made one leave your group? Compare that to this episode, what did you care about more ?
She died because she was always incapable of living in that world. Listen to what Jane is saying literally the entire episode. Too many people think if they do everything right that it will all work out in the end.
Mike will die for sure. I still think they're gonna do something with Bonnie's junkie past and Arvo's drug stash, though.
Knowing telltale, episode 5 will probably end up with bonnie and mike (for sure) dying from the bullet wounds. And you either have the option to go with either since that pizza or ice cream. But fuck that.
Mike is likable, but not that important. Sarah's death was so fucking unnecessary
I didn't care about Katja in S1E3. I also did not care about Lily. Then again, I do not care about Nick.
But Sarah's death made me really sad and Jane leaving the group was pretty hard.
I'd say it's equal.
In which way was Carley's death in Season One necessary? You people are complaining about stuff that season one had as well. But back then, it was fucking brillant. The only difference is: Back when season one came out, we did not expect that much. The deaths in episode three were so surprising. But we are used to that now. If someone plays season two for the first time without having played season one, I'm sure he will not complain about that stuff.
Her death was absolutely necessary. It's evident by the people who think someone as incapable as her would survive such a horrible situation.
I'm with you 100%. Not every character can have a "heroic" death that makes you teary eyed. I agree that Nick's death was pretty cheap, but at the same time I understand that needed to happen at one point or another. Same with Sarah, even if she didn't die in this episode. The next one would've surely been her last and people still wouldn't be happy.
A little off topic here, but I remember at some point in time users thought that Kenny might die because his eye could get infected(it's still possible) and people were absolutely against that idea. Some of them preferred to have him being torn apart by walkers rather than to die like that. I'm not hating on anyone here, just thought this is something worth pointing out.
It was not necessary, and she was savable. But due to telltale's disgusting pathetic writing, they did what they did. If they knew this shit would happen, then it'd possibly be better if they never introduced her to the series. But that applies to 90% of the characters anyways.
Telltale wanted to show you how strong Clem was compared to other girls in her age.
Sarah became both mentally and physically disabled after loosing her father, but that didn't happen to Clem even though she lost her parents, Lee, Duck, Omid, Ben and a lot of people she met in the apocalypse. Clem only became stronger with time. That's the point of killing Sarah in my opinion.
When will you guys accept that in a zombie apocalype, it is actually possible for characters to die. You play an eleven year old girl, HOW THE HELL is Clementine supposed to save anyone? It is due to this pathetic disgusting community that I have a hard time enjoying talks about the fourth season.
Why the hell are you comparing season 1 character's to 2? Carley's death was not necessary as well, and it was not "brilliant" it was fucking unoriginal, and the fact that that's where doug dies as well is pathetic. We had so much interactions with carley and got to know her character so well, what interactions did we have with sarah? When COULD we talk to her in hubs? Less than 3? Boy BYE. It isn't safe to assume things, especially how you've done things. If we had more interactions with uhhh, the characters?? and gave thema good death, then it would've been better. But that isn't the case. It's pathetic how you consider this season's writing as acceptable.
Also Sarah death can mean that even you teach people how to do things and help them to survive, you can't save everyone.
That's what Jane said.
Clem did what she did because she want everyone to live no matter what, but there are people that simply you can't just save.
The characters that died weren't a waste of potencial, they increased knowledge to you(Clem), you learn from them.
It's pathetic how you can't accept other people's opinions.
When will you accept that this is a telltale game, and not IRL. We played for decisions and character building and interactions, not for a poor "movie" and certainly not gameplay. Just because you didn't like the character, especially SARAH does not mean she should die for everybody, rather make her determinant. Just because you're some cranky old guy that does not like children or does not want to spend time to understand them or too lazy for character interactions and just want action and gore, does not mean that should happen.
And if clementine could, she COULD'VE saved sarah if she actually went down to fight, also the others who had fucking guns in there hands and machetes and were doing crap but watching. Poor. Writing.
The point was to show that you really cannot save everyone. No matter how hard you try...the dead always win.
It's pathetic how you're replying to me because of my opinion, yet you have the nerve to say that.
I honestly think Telltale just wanted to really express the horrors of the world, by making you think Sarah is safe when saving her from the mobile home, only to kill her off later.
Okay, let me get one thing straight: Are you like 12 or 13 years old? You troll hate Telltale and TWD just because you don't like the fact that they killed of a character? FUCK OFF.
We play for decisions and character development, but Death is a thing in a zombie apocalypse that you just have to ACCEPT. You cannot save everybody, and telltale still has a story to tell! So you stop reading Harry Potter when Dumbledore dies?
You could not have saved Sarah. There were way too many zombies. Sarah had no strength to live in this zombie apocalypse and that's why she died. Otherwise, she would not have stood at the edge of the platform like a lethargic teeny. I loved Sarah. I love playing children in video games and I love how TWD is handling children. But her death was necessary in order to make a statement: No one is safe. Not every character gets a payoff. Everyone can die at any moment, that's what a apocalypse is about. Clementine lost a friend. It's horrible, but we have to be strong enough to carry on.
Hah first thing's first, are YOU 13 or 12? Argue like an adult and stop being so childish and hypocritical.
It's not the fact that they killed sarah, is the way they did it. You are given to option to talk to sarah a little bit 1 on 1, the only time we had that was in episode 2 really, episode 1 was poor and very limited. Episode 3 speaks for itself and all character interactions. Skip to 4, you have the option to save her in the trailer, or leave her. If you chose to save her you're forced to talk about your past and so much unnecessary stuff. When you do that, she leaves yay fun. But you she honestly says NOTHING else other than "clementine?" or her screaming. Then when she's in that death situation again and you have to option to save JANE or SARAH. Which honestly doesn't even matter, especially with jane; but i'll get to that soon. Choosing "save sarah" is USELESS. NOTHING happens and I feel that was a poor writing in telltale's behalf and a huge middle fingers to her fans and people with a heart. And if clementine, bonnie, luke and mike were to go down and save her, it would've been possible. And the fact that NOBODY says anything afterwards, just jane for less than 10 seconds is pathetic. They just want to rid of characters. Also if you choosing to save jane is useless since she does not die and LEAVES like in the next 5 minutes. You consider that GOOD WRITING? Atleast we had SOME TIME to speak with JANE.
The point is, I feel telltale scammed people who care about characters. What I really wanted was some conversations with characters and some interactions. We literally had none in this season with sarah. That's the ONLY reason I'm angry. Not because of her death, but the way they handled that if it makes sense.
Also you should really watch your mouth, you directly tell me curse words when I told you none. Stop before I report you.
Nothing but a gif, exactly don't say anything. Thanks for understanding
I didn't care for katja i just felt for kenny, duck was useless to me But i felt for kenny. I didn't care for Carley i just wanted for lee to have a lil somethin somethin. And never cared for Lily i just wanted for lee to do the Best decision he could've taken.
My take is her death was a check of Clem's moral compass. Also it had to be. The reason I say that is because the game must advance. Unless there is another time jump, the whole teach a defenseless girl how to survive the ZA has already been done with Clem.
I think Sarah was necessary for Clementine's development. Sarah was an embodiment what many (e.g., Carver, Christa, Chuck, Jane, Lee and Pete) had stated: be pragmatic, learn how to be self-sufficient, become an adult, be strong in the face of adversity, have the conviction to make the difficult decisions and follow through, and know when to let go and move on.
In one of the dialogue options, Sarah implied that she would not have attempted to save Clementine if the roles were reversed. That information was revealing itself, sad yet spoke volumes about her state of mind. No matter how much it is analyzed, Sarah would always need someone to watch over her.
Well, as you can see, what people care about is subjective (I completely agree with your point, though). However, determining which was better written, better foreshadowed, and better executed, there's no fucking question that it's Long Road Ahead. Whether you liked the season 1 characters or not, their deaths had meaning, purpose, and a logical place in the story. Not a single goddamn drop of that quality (as it pertains to character fates) was in Amid the Ruins. It certainly had its strengths, but it also had its weaknesses.
No death is "necessary" except the deaths of villains who threaten the good guys, if we're being honest here. However, here's the thing: The shock deaths in Amid the Ruins not only happened to characters who had lots of build up that led to nothing and thus led to disappointment, but also had no real impact on the story or the characters save for a few underwhelming sad reactions. We get nothing from them.
Carley's death served as a mood setter for the episode because we'd just escaped a battle where we suffered no casualties, but the story that was built up throughout the whole episode up until that point (the traitor working with the bandits) reached its climax with her death. The fact that the mystery was not yet completed kept us wondering through the grief whether she had been guilty or not and whether it even mattered anymore. Compare that to the deaths in Amid the Ruins, where NONE of them set the tone or have a profound effect on the characters or anything. They just die because they die. The situations don't matter, they just die. With Carley, the situation and the story going on mattered to absolutely everything.
Moreover, Carley wasn't built up like Nick or Sarah. I loved her, and a lot of people loved her, but she had essentially already completed her role in the story by getting Lee (or trying to, anyway) to finally unveil his past to everybody and tell them the truth for his own good. She didn't have any unfulfilled backstory or character elements. Why else do you think the main thing a lot of people cry about as it pertains to her death is that she and Lee never got together? Unlike Nick whose story feels so incomplete, or Sarah, whose story feels completely pointless.
Totally different except for the fact that all these deaths were shock deaths. Sometimes you do it right, sometimes you don't.
I guess they wanted to show that not every kid can be like Clem.
sarah?potential?HA thats funny
She was not savable as a character. We didn't know much about her but what we did made this painfully obvious to anyone who looked at her realistically.
Idk why people don't care about characters if they're good people. Not caring about douchebags yes but good people like Katjaa and Nick?
Maybe that's the point though if you're implying that you cared a hell of a lot more in season 1. Maybe it's not bad writing but rather we are going through what Clem is. The deaths are shocking and heart breaking at first but eventually when it happens so often so much and at any time it's harder to feel bad about it and you begin to focus more on surviving rather than growing attached to people. The deaths make you feel less because Clem feels less and is becoming numb as is the audience.
Morgan says otherwise
Everyone has that