It's clearly a waste of time to prove you wrong, but sure, I'll bite once.
The gun wasn't loaded, that's literally the first thing she says. She's never handled a gun before and made a mistake, and immediately apologized for it. That's how you learn. You make mistakes.
That's not her fault. And also, we have no idea how he died; just that he got shot in the shoulder. I'm not sure what else to say to this because blaming her for Nick's death is so fundamentally incorrect there is no other way to break it down any more. And before you start blaming her for the zombie horde, Sarah saw her father torn apart in front of her and her sheltering has made is difficult for her to control strong emotions. Of course she's going to scream. And since we're playing this game, you keep bringing up her incompetence while she was the only one to make it out of the horde fairly easily. And all by herself.
Literally nobody could have predicted that Carver would have barged into the cabin; that's not Sarah's fault and Sarah knew enough to keep hidden. AND kept her cool when he was searching around for people.
If it wasn't Sarah, then it was going to be something else. Carver had already made up his mind, he just took advantage of Sarah's trauma to blame it on Reggie, who maybe should have actually checked on them once or twice to see how they were doing.
Anxiety is not an intellectual disability, and the word retard should not be used as a synonym for stupid or any sort of insult because intellectual disability is a real thing that people suffer with, and those people still have feelings. It's actually really gross of you to keep bringing that up as a reason to hate her. Also she was not screaming until Luke agitated her. She would have been way better off had he not come to "rescue" her and wind her up further by screaming at her after she had suffered an intensely traumatic experience only several hours before. And when people like you tell people like her she's just a ~liability~, she starts to believe it and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. She says as much to Clementine several times. "We can't all be like you." "I'm not okay."
Nobody thinks she's strong, so she's not allowed to be strong. But she outran the horde with no help, snuck past Carver undetected, stood up for Clementine when Carver struck her, and helped her back in the very first episode by providing peroxide, along with telling Clementine where she might find some other supplies to help. She's not useless, people just don't allow her to show otherwise, and she struggles with it.
Honestly, all your arguments just make you just sound like an enormous sociopath that can't understand basic human emotions. I'm genuinely curious, do you blame Clementine for trusting a stranger and getting kidnapped, ultimately resulting in several deaths along the way as they attempt to save her? Because it sounds like you would.
who the hell points a loaded a gun at someone even when they are just playing?
granted nick was always gonna die soon but he did get shot… more chasing her.
she took the damn picture which pretty much told carver that they were for sure there.
carver needed an excuse to kill reggie and he found it by sarah not cutting a damn plant. she just stood there like she just shit herself.
mental retardation is when someone is born or has suffered an awful accident that prevents the brain from doing basic or extraordinary tasks.
clem was a child. of course i don't blame her for believing the stranger. clem even acknowledges that she got people killed and thats why i truly believe clem is a well written character.
i am just saying that the world has been in the toilet for at least 2 years now. no amount of sheltering could prevent sarah from seeing how the world really is.
Why can't people just accept the fact that some people did not care for sarah? she was 15 not 8. i would expect more from a 15 year old.
or maybe i just hate it when people go into a screaming fit.
I do not call people with a mental handicap "tards". i call just plain stupid people "tards"
Though I kind of knew she was going to die eventually, it was still pretty sad. I really wanted to save her, I kinda felt responsible for her you know..
First of all, she clearly wasn't happy, she was an idiot. Second, she wasn't "innocent", "innocents" don't put other people's lives in danger. She wanted to die and she deserved to die. And I have to children, neither of them are idiots like her. My children wouldn't do the stupid shit like her, so yeah.
clem was a weak little girl once to she became strong her and sarah were a like but sarah stayed a little girl this was to show what could have happened to clem if she stayed a little girl
Its just sad. I mean, she didn't do anything wrong, she didn't try to get anyone killed.
Its not like carver who was strait up a bad guy, she was shelters BY HER DAD. For gods sake blame her father or the way she acts not sarah. Sarah did nothing wrong and you're gonna blame her for something her father caused? A girl at 15 years old and had a short, miserable life, and someones gonna be happy that she lost her life just because he gets scared when dead walking people are coming at her? That's just pathetic. I don't understand how some people can think that way.
sigh I'm not calling them "stupid" because its their opinion. I'm just stating the facts so maybe they can see whats really going on and their opinion will change. I'm not bashing on them because their opinion isn't the same as mine. Just making that clear.
Its just sad. I mean, she didn't do anything wrong, she didn't try to get anyone killed.
Its not like carver who was strait up a bad guy,… more she was shelters BY HER DAD. For gods sake blame her father or the way she acts not sarah. Sarah did nothing wrong and you're gonna blame her for something her father caused? A girl at 15 years old and had a short, miserable life, and someones gonna be happy that she lost her life just because he gets scared when dead walking people are coming at her? That's just pathetic. I don't understand how some people can think that way.
sigh I'm not calling them "stupid" because its their opinion. I'm just stating the facts so maybe they can see whats really going on and their opinion will change. I'm not bashing on them because their opinion isn't the same as mine. Just making that clear.
Its just sad. I mean, she didn't do anything wrong, she didn't try to get anyone killed.
Its not like carver who was strait up a bad guy,… more she was shelters BY HER DAD. For gods sake blame her father or the way she acts not sarah. Sarah did nothing wrong and you're gonna blame her for something her father caused? A girl at 15 years old and had a short, miserable life, and someones gonna be happy that she lost her life just because he gets scared when dead walking people are coming at her? That's just pathetic. I don't understand how some people can think that way.
sigh I'm not calling them "stupid" because its their opinion. I'm just stating the facts so maybe they can see whats really going on and their opinion will change. I'm not bashing on them because their opinion isn't the same as mine. Just making that clear.
Well, Yeah, I wanted Sarah dead because she takes everything as some kind of a game. But it was no big deal to me once she was dead, I got rid of her, Excellent, Now time to move on.
Dude, it's not that you don't care for her that's pissing people off. It's the fact that you are using hurtful reasons with real-life connotations to explain your dislike for her. You find her personality grating? Fine, it happens, not everyone loves every character. You think she's stupid for struggling to deal with emotions and having an anxiety disorder (and possibly autism or asperger's which can hinder development but doesn't make it impossible), and saying you're glad she's dead because of it? Not okay. Really gross, actually. Also, Clementine's survivor's guilt IS NOT a good thing and she should not be feeling that way.
Also if you don't see anything wrong with calling people you think are stupid "tards" when that's a word that's used by millions of other people to hurt, insult, and belitte people with mental conditions that they can't control then lmao I honestly don't know what else to say to you.
clem was a child. of course i don't blame her for believing the stranger. clem even acknowledges that she got people killed and thats why i … moretruly believe clem is a well written character.
i am just saying that the world has been in the toilet for at least 2 years now. no amount of sheltering could prevent sarah from seeing how the world really is.
Why can't people just accept the fact that some people did not care for sarah? she was 15 not 8. i would expect more from a 15 year old.
or maybe i just hate it when people go into a screaming fit.
I do not call people with a mental handicap "tards". i call just plain stupid people "tards"
I've not felt sad about any characters death in this season im sorry to say. I just feel the character development has been poor, i grew to love season 1 characters like Carley and even Ben! Dont get me wrong, season 2 is still good but not enough makes me care about the new characters. I guess if there was one i was sad about, it would be Carver's death only because i felt there was so much more they could have used him for being the main villain of season 2. The only 2 people i really care about is Clem and Kenny
I find this offensive.... what was so bad about Sarah? How would you act if you had anxiety and your father was overly protective of you? Sarah didn't deserve to die :c
An earlier comment brought up something that I did think about during the scenes with Sarah, did she have a condition or something?
I remember Carlos saying "She's not like you". Now, that could just mean she doesn't have it in her to be like Clementine and survive on her own, but could it of meant something else too?
Look i didnt care for her much, but i didnt feel happy when she died, i mean her death was horrable but she was never gonna make it out in the zombie apocalypse because of her "condition", i mean she was catatonic the entire episode, she only escapes the trailer because of clem, but clem cant always be there for everyone, and even if u sent jane to save her, she actually freed her but she was so scared that she didnt move, and you all gotta admit when clem or luke said to drop the deck down she instead of making her way inside she just stayed outside for some reason.
Called it. I knew Sarah was going to die, and I knew they were going to parallel her with Sophie and Mika with the whole "she wasn't made for this world" statement. Granted, I didn't try to convince her to come with me more than once, those walkers were about to break down that door, and even though Luke and Jane weren't my faves, I didn't want to get them killed because Sarah wouldn't snap out of it. Luke had been trying for hours prior and couldn't get through to her. Maybe I could've saved her, but she probably would have ended up dying anyway and causing someone else to die as well. As far as that goes, I don't have anything bad to say about Sarah. Her breakdown was completely justified, she was fairly unstable to begin with and this was just the last straw for her imo. I felt awful about it, but I thought what Jane said about her sister, "dragging her on a journey she didn't sign up for, and how Jaimie just wanted her to let her go etc" was fitting to the circumstances, and only drove home what TWD is all about. In order to survive you have to make sacrifices, even if that means giving up the things you love most, or even the things that make you human.
An earlier comment brought up something that I did think about during the scenes with Sarah, did she have a condition or something?
I rem… moreember Carlos saying "She's not like you". Now, that could just mean she doesn't have it in her to be like Clementine and survive on her own, but could it of meant something else too?
I've lurked in the forums for a while and I was always a little dumbfounded by the animosity towards Sarah. It seems to me like she had some form of social disorder at least, and although I'm not outright saying she had something like autism or aspergers I think calling her annoying and a liability seems to be missing the point a bit.
I've lurked in the forums for a while and I was always a little dumbfounded by the animosity towards Sarah. It seems to me like she had some… more form of social disorder at least, and although I'm not outright saying she had something like autism or aspergers I think calling her annoying and a liability seems to be missing the point a bit.
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It's clearly a waste of time to prove you wrong, but sure, I'll bite once.
The gun wasn't loaded, that's literally the first thing she says. She's never handled a gun before and made a mistake, and immediately apologized for it. That's how you learn. You make mistakes.
That's not her fault. And also, we have no idea how he died; just that he got shot in the shoulder. I'm not sure what else to say to this because blaming her for Nick's death is so fundamentally incorrect there is no other way to break it down any more. And before you start blaming her for the zombie horde, Sarah saw her father torn apart in front of her and her sheltering has made is difficult for her to control strong emotions. Of course she's going to scream. And since we're playing this game, you keep bringing up her incompetence while she was the only one to make it out of the horde fairly easily. And all by herself.
Literally nobody could have predicted that Carver would have barged into the cabin; that's not Sarah's fault and Sarah knew enough to keep hidden. AND kept her cool when he was searching around for people.
If it wasn't Sarah, then it was going to be something else. Carver had already made up his mind, he just took advantage of Sarah's trauma to blame it on Reggie, who maybe should have actually checked on them once or twice to see how they were doing.
Anxiety is not an intellectual disability, and the word retard should not be used as a synonym for stupid or any sort of insult because intellectual disability is a real thing that people suffer with, and those people still have feelings. It's actually really gross of you to keep bringing that up as a reason to hate her. Also she was not screaming until Luke agitated her. She would have been way better off had he not come to "rescue" her and wind her up further by screaming at her after she had suffered an intensely traumatic experience only several hours before. And when people like you tell people like her she's just a ~liability~, she starts to believe it and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. She says as much to Clementine several times. "We can't all be like you." "I'm not okay."
Nobody thinks she's strong, so she's not allowed to be strong. But she outran the horde with no help, snuck past Carver undetected, stood up for Clementine when Carver struck her, and helped her back in the very first episode by providing peroxide, along with telling Clementine where she might find some other supplies to help. She's not useless, people just don't allow her to show otherwise, and she struggles with it.
Honestly, all your arguments just make you just sound like an enormous sociopath that can't understand basic human emotions. I'm genuinely curious, do you blame Clementine for trusting a stranger and getting kidnapped, ultimately resulting in several deaths along the way as they attempt to save her? Because it sounds like you would.
she shouldn't be standing on the deck getting on my way. this was lee's way of purging the weak.
Convenient plot device.
id say. it was the lords way of letting us know that we shouldn't waste time on people that won't help themselves.
clem was a child. of course i don't blame her for believing the stranger. clem even acknowledges that she got people killed and thats why i truly believe clem is a well written character.
i am just saying that the world has been in the toilet for at least 2 years now. no amount of sheltering could prevent sarah from seeing how the world really is.
Why can't people just accept the fact that some people did not care for sarah? she was 15 not 8. i would expect more from a 15 year old.
or maybe i just hate it when people go into a screaming fit.
I do not call people with a mental handicap "tards". i call just plain stupid people "tards"
Sarah's death was worse than Ben's. Why would anyone be happy?
Though I kind of knew she was going to die eventually, it was still pretty sad. I really wanted to save her, I kinda felt responsible for her you know..
But she was so nice and never said a bad word...I think...
Because said people are either slightly or totally sociopathic?
Hehe you must not remember Episode 4.
You would die because you would actually try to save an idiot like Sarah.
First of all, she clearly wasn't happy, she was an idiot. Second, she wasn't "innocent", "innocents" don't put other people's lives in danger. She wanted to die and she deserved to die. And I have to children, neither of them are idiots like her. My children wouldn't do the stupid shit like her, so yeah.
can you not?
she wasn't a villain or anything and she wasn't bad. Ugh but its your opinion so whatever, but show some respect Jesus Christ....
Considering these damnfools DLB, I don't think there's much of a chance for their showing respect.
clem was a weak little girl once to she became strong her and sarah were a like but sarah stayed a little girl this was to show what could have happened to clem if she stayed a little girl
I'll admit, I chuckled a little bit when she bought it.
Its just sad. I mean, she didn't do anything wrong, she didn't try to get anyone killed.
Its not like carver who was strait up a bad guy, she was shelters BY HER DAD. For gods sake blame her father or the way she acts not sarah. Sarah did nothing wrong and you're gonna blame her for something her father caused? A girl at 15 years old and had a short, miserable life, and someones gonna be happy that she lost her life just because he gets scared when dead walking people are coming at her? That's just pathetic. I don't understand how some people can think that way.
sigh I'm not calling them "stupid" because its their opinion. I'm just stating the facts so maybe they can see whats really going on and their opinion will change. I'm not bashing on them because their opinion isn't the same as mine. Just making that clear.
You described it 100% perfectly DLB. I've got nothing else to add to that.
Thanks. I usually don't share my opinion because people might would hate on me, but screw it. I had to say it.
yea i think sarah stayed a little girl when clem had to grow up to me they are the same at the start of the za
Well, Yeah, I wanted Sarah dead because she takes everything as some kind of a game. But it was no big deal to me once she was dead, I got rid of her, Excellent, Now time to move on.
got that right u do
Dude, it's not that you don't care for her that's pissing people off. It's the fact that you are using hurtful reasons with real-life connotations to explain your dislike for her. You find her personality grating? Fine, it happens, not everyone loves every character. You think she's stupid for struggling to deal with emotions and having an anxiety disorder (and possibly autism or asperger's which can hinder development but doesn't make it impossible), and saying you're glad she's dead because of it? Not okay. Really gross, actually. Also, Clementine's survivor's guilt IS NOT a good thing and she should not be feeling that way.
Also if you don't see anything wrong with calling people you think are stupid "tards" when that's a word that's used by millions of other people to hurt, insult, and belitte people with mental conditions that they can't control then lmao I honestly don't know what else to say to you.
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I've not felt sad about any characters death in this season im sorry to say. I just feel the character development has been poor, i grew to love season 1 characters like Carley and even Ben! Dont get me wrong, season 2 is still good but not enough makes me care about the new characters. I guess if there was one i was sad about, it would be Carver's death only because i felt there was so much more they could have used him for being the main villain of season 2. The only 2 people i really care about is Clem and Kenny
Someone flag this thread as offensive!!! Lol just kidding. I liked Sarah too bad they gave her two death sentences SMH.
I liked Sarah but I could totally understand why someone would not like her or even want her dead. She was a liability at the end of the day,
i didnt give up on her but even she pretty much wanted you too
I find this offensive.... what was so bad about Sarah? How would you act if you had anxiety and your father was overly protective of you? Sarah didn't deserve to die :c
An earlier comment brought up something that I did think about during the scenes with Sarah, did she have a condition or something?
I remember Carlos saying "She's not like you". Now, that could just mean she doesn't have it in her to be like Clementine and survive on her own, but could it of meant something else too?
I'm sorry, but I am glad to be rid of her too. I was sick of her freaking out over every little thing...
Which is why I think she might of been more then just scared.
Look i didnt care for her much, but i didnt feel happy when she died, i mean her death was horrable but she was never gonna make it out in the zombie apocalypse because of her "condition", i mean she was catatonic the entire episode, she only escapes the trailer because of clem, but clem cant always be there for everyone, and even if u sent jane to save her, she actually freed her but she was so scared that she didnt move, and you all gotta admit when clem or luke said to drop the deck down she instead of making her way inside she just stayed outside for some reason.
Called it. I knew Sarah was going to die, and I knew they were going to parallel her with Sophie and Mika with the whole "she wasn't made for this world" statement. Granted, I didn't try to convince her to come with me more than once, those walkers were about to break down that door, and even though Luke and Jane weren't my faves, I didn't want to get them killed because Sarah wouldn't snap out of it. Luke had been trying for hours prior and couldn't get through to her. Maybe I could've saved her, but she probably would have ended up dying anyway and causing someone else to die as well. As far as that goes, I don't have anything bad to say about Sarah. Her breakdown was completely justified, she was fairly unstable to begin with and this was just the last straw for her imo. I felt awful about it, but I thought what Jane said about her sister, "dragging her on a journey she didn't sign up for, and how Jaimie just wanted her to let her go etc" was fitting to the circumstances, and only drove home what TWD is all about. In order to survive you have to make sacrifices, even if that means giving up the things you love most, or even the things that make you human.
I personally think it meant that she had some form of autism.
It's important to note: Carlos was right! Sarah did cease to function!
Dead and already forgotten, kinda like her dad.
I liked her dad more than Sarah. That isn't saying much.
I've lurked in the forums for a while and I was always a little dumbfounded by the animosity towards Sarah. It seems to me like she had some form of social disorder at least, and although I'm not outright saying she had something like autism or aspergers I think calling her annoying and a liability seems to be missing the point a bit.
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cocks shotgun What was that? Just kidding. I actually agree with some of the points you made.